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SHVC 23rd Aug 2021 01:16

NSW are changing the narrative of the current marathon covid press conferences. I can see once 60% or the 70% target being reached Gladys will not report case numbers. It looks we are heading in just reporting vaccination levels and deaths.

Also, is it just me or BH and CMO KC are never in the same room since the inquest few weeks ago almost seems they can’t tolerate each other.

Ascend Charlie 23rd Aug 2021 01:20

One problem is the dipshits who refuse to acknowledge the existence of the virus.

Another problem is the selfish types who are only looking out for themselves - like the drug dealer from the country who drove to western Sydney, collected his drugs and a dose of Covid, and went back to the regional centres to sell his drugs and hand out a free dose of the disease. With any luck, it will only be the users who catch it, but sadly they will pass it on to the non-users and keep the rounds of lockdowns going.

Spare a crocodile tear for the Internet Influencer (Influenza?) who organises protests and somehow gets paid for it, got arrested 3 times, got bailed 3 times, told police he was homeless and couch surfing when he was really in a luxury hotel, at somebody else's expense. He finally gets caught again, the story unravels, and to poor little thing starts to cry about his misfortune as the conviction is draped around his neck.

White Knight 23rd Aug 2021 01:37

It’s going well then Ozmates???? Much of the rest of the world opening up and you’re still p1ssing around with pointless lockdowns! Laughable!!!

Al R 23rd Aug 2021 02:04


Originally Posted by machtuk (Post 11099669)
Guys there are many who don't subscribe to the indoctrinated fear prolific poster merchants in here so you are not alone, they just don't spend their entire lives as Govt soldiers:-)
When the draconian laws of the criminals in charge ramp up to the point where food parcels will be delivered then the push back will explode!

It was clear quite early on that Covid was largely a disease of institutions. Care home residents comprised c50% of all deaths, despite making up a fraction of the population, and hospital infections have been the major driver of transmission rates. Citadel protection was vital. God only knows what has been going on in Oz and NZ. The world is opening up and in NSW, they’re shooting dogs, gassing kids and firing a ton rounds at tax payers. Sure, maybe there was a case for restrictions when Covid was new and unknown, but that point of reasonable as was passed long ago.

Ladloy 23rd Aug 2021 02:17


Originally Posted by White Knight (Post 11099676)
It’s going well then Ozmates???? Much of the rest of the world opening up and you’re still p1ssing around with pointless lockdowns! Laughable!!!

Scotty forgot to order enough vaccines, that's all there is to say about it. The states are paying for the federal government's failings.

Xeptu 23rd Aug 2021 02:21


Originally Posted by White Knight (Post 11099676)
It’s going well then Ozmates???? Much of the rest of the world opening up and you’re still p1ssing around with pointless lockdowns! Laughable!!!

Yeah! but then the rest of the world is vaccinated, we are not, apparently it wasn't a race according to Slomo. Doing our best to catch up.

Foxxster 23rd Aug 2021 02:55


Originally Posted by Ladloy (Post 11099683)
Scotty forgot to order enough vaccines, that's all there is to say about it. The states are paying for the federal government's failings.

and for their own politics. Like Queensland. And their big scare campaign on AstraZeneca. Knowing full well it was Morrison’s weak point. Utterly f cking disgraceful.

machtuk 23rd Aug 2021 03:16


Originally Posted by Al R (Post 11099681)
It was clear quite early on that Covid was largely a disease of institutions. Care home residents comprised c50% of all deaths, despite making up a fraction of the population, and hospital infections have been the major driver of transmission rates. Citadel protection was vital. God only knows what has been going on in Oz and NZ. The world is opening up and in NSW, they’re shooting dogs, gassing kids and firing a ton rounds at tax payers. Sure, maybe there was a case for restrictions when Covid was new and unknown, but that point of reasonable as was passed long ago.

Well said but it's way too late for common sense now like other countries, we have too many power trip lunatics in control being manipulated by un-elected bureaucrats behind the scenes, essentially we are F**ked!

Ladloy 23rd Aug 2021 03:19


Originally Posted by Foxxster (Post 11099693)
and for their own politics. Like Queensland. And their big scare campaign on AstraZeneca. Knowing full well it was Morrison’s weak point. Utterly f cking disgraceful.

it could have been prevented if the federal government didn't handball responsibility to the states from the start. He and Hunt could have continued the narrative but instead when the AZ reports started to come out they hid away. It's just like when NSW started to fall, Scomo didn't speak publicly for five whole days but was happy to get in front of the mic in May when Melbourne went into lockdown. All of it is bullshit politics.

43Inches 23rd Aug 2021 03:35


It was clear quite early on that Covid was largely a disease of institutions. Care home residents comprised c50% of all deaths, despite making up a fraction of the population, and hospital infections have been the major driver of transmission rates. Citadel protection was vital.
Correct for 1 year ago, unfortunately that info is not correct anymore, the rate of those in ICU during delta is up to 25% under 40s. I know personally 3 families in the US that have had their under 5 year old in ICU for up to a week, not just for observation. Severe nausea, vomiting and diarrhea, they have to be sedated and put on fluids as they refuse to eat, drink or even talk, that is how covid affects them. These were completely healthy active toddlers. BTW something not mentioned here is that Delta does have different symptoms to Alpha strain.

Foxxster 23rd Aug 2021 03:49

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Xeptu 23rd Aug 2021 04:00

Hahaaar! now that's a gold standard

43Inches 23rd Aug 2021 04:03


Hahaaar! now that's a gold standard
One thing NSW has achieved in glorious fashion is having relegated "gold standard" now to a symbol of overconfidence and pride before the fall.

Gnadenburg 23rd Aug 2021 10:42


Originally Posted by Xeptu (Post 11099621)
Spoken like a true chinese national beating to a different drum.

Another bizarre post. I don't have any idea what you are on about.

Xeptu 23rd Aug 2021 10:44


Originally Posted by Gnadenburg (Post 11099933)
Another bizarre post. I don't have any idea what you are on about.

That's because your a commie, on ya bike mate, your blown

43Inches 23rd Aug 2021 11:28


Hmm. The fatality rate published by Public Health England for those under fifty shows that more youngsters die if they’re vaccinated than if they’re not. “Vaccine passports” are now dead in the water, especially with a population already irate with the government and a squeamish Johnson.
Not sure what you mean by youngsters, no vaccines are approved for under 12 yet in the UK or USA, and not expected for another 4-6 months.

As for higher mortality of vaccinated we covered that way back 100 posts ago, that's just skewed data as the vaccine does give many people total immunity, the few that get severe breakthrough have a higher rate only. The UK study also found that some of the Unvaxed were on their second go at covid, ie had been reinfected, so had some immunity. There is no doubt that vaccination was proved to be 80-97% effective and preventing, and reducing symptoms and death rate.

Also be very careful when reading data out of context, as in what level of vaccination did they have, the Israeli study on Pfizer had people that only had one shot at the start, so vaccinated was from 1 shot to two shots and minimum 2 weeks post full vaccination. It was quite clear in the Israeli study that within 2 weeks of the first shot the infection rate was similar to unvaxed and by 45 days, or complete vaccination + 2 weeks the vaccinated cohort virtually had no infection and similar drop in hospitalisation.

https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-55718553

Covid passes seem far from dead, only news about them at the moment is Boris stuffed up some legislation with regard to forcing nightclubs to only allow vaccinated patrons in. Otherwise their use for travel and other things is ongoing. Otherwise you will need a NHS Covid pass to go clubbing from September.

601 23rd Aug 2021 12:55


it could have been prevented if the federal government didn't handball responsibility to the states from the start.
Better brush on the Australian Constitution.

3Greens 23rd Aug 2021 16:24


Originally Posted by Xeptu (Post 11099935)
That's because your a commie, on ya bike mate, your blown

this absolute stroker doesn’t even know the difference between “your” and “you’re”. Doubtful he,or she, could contribute anything of any use to the thread.

Dannyboy39 23rd Aug 2021 18:18

I think the reinfection rate was only like 4% of cases.

Agent_86 24th Aug 2021 01:06

Only 753 cases today :D


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