Good news is Victoria can’t keep up with vaccinations they’re turning ppl away. Now we just need outbreaks in the other states and territories to get a kick up the a$$.
Also, could someone tell me what this J.Weimar fellow is actually supposed to be doing? Doesn’t seem a lot. |
Originally Posted by SHVC
(Post 11054249)
Good news is Victoria can’t keep up with vaccinations they’re turning ppl away. Now we just need outbreaks in the other states and territories to get a kick up the a$$.
Also, could someone tell me what this J.Weimar fellow is actually supposed to be doing? Doesn’t seem a lot. People just need a little motivation sometimes! |
Originally Posted by ScepticalOptomist
(Post 11054330)
People just need a little motivation sometimes!
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Originally Posted by WingNut60
(Post 11054341)
That's what he said.
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Victorians being keen as to get jabbed now. Theoretically speaking, if all of Vic residents get the jab and the other states and territories are still fluffing in the wind. that would mean we would have to close off to Vic because there would be no need for them to test for the virus it would become the common flu there, thats why we want the vaccine right?! This will be interesting for sure.
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There’s a new Vietnamese killer mutant death strain looming into the horizon according to the media...
it just reminds me of the war between Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia; never seems to approach any end. |
With all this scaremongering over the AstraZeneca vaccine….
ooops. |
All vaccines work, none increase your chance of death significantly, if at all. Compared to the risk from Covid you're always better off having the vaccine
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Originally Posted by Foxxster
(Post 11054443)
With all this scaremongering over the AstraZeneca vaccine….
ooops. And you’d realise that if you got your news from a better source than RT. |
Originally Posted by Asturias56
(Post 11054446)
All vaccines work, none increase your chance of death significantly, if at all. Compared to the risk from Covid you're always better off having the vaccine
People have reactions to the common flu vaccination but lots still have it,just saying... |
Agree 100%,basically nobody thinks twice about vaccinating their kids,nobody thinks twice about being vaccinated if needed to enter a country on a holiday destination where its required & even if somebody does have complications after the jab it doesnt make headlines. People have reactions to the common flu vaccination but lots still have it,just saying... One used to choose to go to another country and choose whether to get vaccinated or not..... |
...and choose whether to get vaccinated or not..... |
Originally Posted by dr dre
(Post 11054484)
That’s because for about two months from late Jan to late March France and Germany restricted use of AZ to under 65. Persons in that cohort will have a lower risk of dying of natural causes in the weeks after the vaccine compared to the older age bracket who got mostly Pfizer so overall this has skewed the death rate to being higher overall for Pfizer.
And you’d realise that if you got your news from a better source than RT. as you missed the point entirely of my post I will make it simple for you. the scaremongering, yes if you’d paid attention you would have spotted i used that word, over the AstraZeneca vaccine has been verging on hysterical. With every case of clotting and every death making headlines. And with little facts surrounding it in terms of how rare it really is. However seeing as the Pfizer vaccine also has complications as per the study then why no spotlight on it. People die with Pfizer, and more than AstraZeneca per this report. Underlying facts don’t matter to the mainstream media or many in the general public. Hope that was patronising enough . |
Originally Posted by Foxxster
(Post 11054562)
oh I realise an awful lot about what was going on in Europe and the political games they were playing with the AstraZeneca vaccine. In fact I know more than you I would gamble.
as you missed the point entirely of my post I will make it simple for you. the scaremongering, yes if you’d paid attention you would have spotted i used that word, over the AstraZeneca vaccine has been verging on hysterical. With every case of clotting and every death making headlines. And with little facts surrounding it in terms of how rare it really is. However seeing as the Pfizer vaccine also has complications as per the study then why no spotlight on it. People die with Pfizer, and more than AstraZeneca per this report. Underlying facts don’t matter to the mainstream media or many in the general public. Hope that was patronising enough . |
You have to die of something. At the end of the day you will get the flu, and whether you like it or not you will get Covid, or a mutation of the original Covid 19.
Have the jab, don’t have the jab. Whatever works. Just don’t regret not having the jab when it’s too late. We have a circuit breaker in this country. Enough time for everyone to make up their own mind. Rely on herd immunity, or risk death associated with a jab. Herd immunity only works when we have enough people brave enough to protect their family by putting their lives on the line. Melodramatic? Herd immunity has worked with disease and infection of similar R values, so make a choice and let’s move on. |
If you actually listened to the “people shouting in the wind” you’d probably notice a lot of them are frustrated with the apparent lack of plan from the Feds on when things will reopen. Best have a flexible idea that can change with the moving target. A good example is QF62. If they had stuck with the "plan" as per the checklist, what would have been the outcome? We have to deal with what is thrown at us. Different variants, restrictions of AZ being released from Europe, vaccine hesitancy, etc. Who thought in March 2020 that we have had less that 1000 deaths in Oz. Be bl000y thankful that our management has been one of the most successful. We have an awful lot of "experts" marched out by the media saying we should do this or should have done that. I would rather go with their cohort who are advising the Government who would have access to the latest information. |
Originally Posted by Fonz121
(Post 11054519)
Has this changed?
https://simpleflying.com/alliance-va...n-requirement/ |
Originally Posted by Capn Rex Havoc
(Post 11054498)
The testing for these vaccines have not been remotely as rigorous as previous vaccines.......
One used to choose to go to another country and choose whether to get vaccinated or not..... very interesting.. from this guy Byram Bridle, Associate Professor of Viral Immunology at the University of Guelph in Canada . Note the captions are not completely correct. Probably done by a robot. |
Originally Posted by 601
(Post 11054936)
So you want a plan set in concrete…..
Be bl000y thankful that our management has been one of the most successful. There hasn’t been any “management” - it’s been a farce - the fact we are an isolated island is what has “saved” us. The monkeys in charge haven’t managed to get quarantine right, nor implemented a strategy to “open up”. They are reactive and care more about how they look politically than doing the right thing by the country. The easily impressed and molly coddled think they’re being “kept safe”. Lets see what the exit strategies look like and compare notes in a few months time. I reckon we’re not going to be on top of the pack. |
Originally Posted by 601
(Post 11054936)
So you want a plan set in concrete when the thing you are planning against is a moving target.
Best have a flexible idea that can change with the moving target. |
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