Talk about trying “Australianise” the mask rules!!!

Just wear it through the terminal and before the flight deck door is shut. Then take it off!! FFS does this really require multiple posts and hand wringing to figure out?

Otherwise wear one walking around in public areas.

Not that hard really.....

I don't believe that the Qld Govt is dictating what happens in the airspace above Qld but what is required in an aircraft flying over Qld.
Al this bovine excreta about jurisdictions is just cr@p.

To hear the stupid questions on local radio this morning about wearing a mask in a gym.
Makes one wonder is there any common sense left or grey matter between the ears.

(Fx2)S just wear the bl00dy thing.

Aren't they the same thing? And can they? Is an aircraft in flight subject to the laws of whatever landmass happens to be under it at the time?

I seem to remember that Alberta used to mandate prohibition of alcohol consumption for flights passing over the province.

It seems like there are people out there who have nothing better to do than call radio stations with stupid questions.
Like you say,is it really that hard to work out what is required!

Speaking of radio stations and airspace, heard a story last night that a Queensland lady needed to get to Perth because her mum was on her death bed.
She boarded the BNE-PER flight and half way through it WA closed the border. After landing in Perth the passengers were kept in a room
for processing either return flights to BNE or quarantine for 14 days. She never got to the hospital, if she did she would of seen her mums last 6 hours of life.
How distressing. However, McGowan would just shrug his shoulders and say tough luck.

The problem was that the health directive regarding gyms said one thing and the Health Minister said the complete opposite in her press conference……what a surprise.:rolleyes:

MM has no remorse he will most likely not even hear of this lady’s storey. The scary thing here is he has brain washed WA ppl to think the east coast is so highly infectious that no contact could possibly be made. Sure lock out BN greater LGA, SY greater LGA what ever makes him feel good but what sense does it make to lock out ppl from Northern QLD and NSW residents outside SY etc.

Mark McGowan:"NSW should look at the other states and territories and follow the majority consensus towards elimination!"

Also Mark McGowan: "It's too dangerous to open our borders to all of NSW, Qld or Victoria - I don't give two hoots that the NT, Qld, SA or Tasmania or the ACT have only declared Greater Sydney a hotspot!"

On a serious note though, I do wonder what his stance is going to be when a vaccine is deployed. Will he allow unrestricted entry to those who show proof of vaccination, or will he continue to peddle the line "Just because you've had a needle doesn't mean you can come in!"

If China stopped the ore that leaves WA with nothing really and the way it’s going with China it could very well happen. McGoose will have to change his strategy to align with the other states and territories.

Well there’s plenty of persons overseas now who have had a Covid vaccine who will still have to quarantine for 14 days, maybe even for the rest of the year. So they aren’t being allowed unrestricted entry.

As far as vaccines go it is more about reaching a critical mass of immunisation before allow relaxing of restrictions, one person could still cause an outbreak in a mostly unvaccinated population, albeit it they will be less contagious if they are infected.

Once again, current data suggests having the vaccine will not stop you acquiring and transmitting the virus. You still get it and can infect others, but your body fights it extra effectively and you don't get (as) sick (and possibly reduce the viral loads to prevent super spreader individuals). Hence, even those vaccinated early on (like presumably international flight crew) will still have to quarantine until such time that enough of the population has been vaccinated so as to not overload the hospital system.

current data suggests neither.
they simply don’t have the data. Yet. Every statement to the contrary is simply a theory.
and it probably won’t be binary (either prevent infections or not) it may be somewhere in the middle.

Since the hospital system is actually being underutilised without a vaccine why is this even a remote concern? It would appear that 99% of people in Australia who get the Chinese Strain of Covid 19 seem to be fine and don't end up in hospital. My local hospital has actually been cutting down on casual staff hours due to a lack of things to do and that's with no vaccine.

That’s because entry from pandemic hotspots is restricted. We’re keeping large scale virus out of a population that isn’t immunised. If we didn’t the virus spreads to the point of health care system collapse ala Northern Hemisphere currently.

The whole point of the vaccination program is to allow this pandemic emergency to be brought under control so our health care system can cope with normal travel and human interaction. Then we can start to remove travel restrictions.

The vaccine is the only thing that’s going to allow unrestricted travel with no widespread health crisis. I cannot understand why anybody who works in our industry would dismiss or be opposed to this vaccine.

Australia's numbers...

Total cases: 28,634

Total deaths: 909 (3.1%) Some very sick people included in these statistics.

Current active cases: 311 (estimated)

Total hospitalised: 45

Later this year lets look at the suicide statistics for 2020 in Australia.

https://www.health.gov.au/news/healt...d-case-numbers

Though the effects of the Pandemic are far from over and will be felt for years to come, this study found no effects on suicide rates for the first 7mths of the pandemic in QLD.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...435-1/fulltext

3318 Suicides in 2019
1195 Fatalities in Car Crashes in 2019 yet we all kept driving!!
We also had the Worst Influenza season ever in 2019 with 310 000 people presenting at Hospital with influenza and 910 related deaths.

You need to wait a few years for that to play out. I would bet it will increase if there is a post pandemic economic crunch associated with lack of access to relatives. However if the economy can survive and the States start acting in the national interest it may not be to bad.

Some of you don't seem to understand logistics and especially supply chains, let alone complex systems.

Covid 19 is not directly lethal, we hope, to the majority of humans. It is indirectly lethal to everyone because it has the capacity to destroy the healthcare system.

You don't seem to understand what the poor doctors and nurses are going through overseas where their systems are under major stress. We need to protect our healthcare system and its workers.

P.S. Anyone want to coomplain how "harsh" "Unfair' "illogical" etc the covid response is now that they founds that cluster in Brisbane? This is a dynamic system.

I thought these guys were the so called "Hero's" in our society of hypochondriacs, if you were to believe the press sensationalism.