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ScepticalOptomist 9th May 2021 11:32


Originally Posted by 601 (Post 11041495)
If we do get a breakout here in the not do distance future, the rush on toilet paper we have seen will be minuscule compared on the rush for the vaccination.

I think we need one to make people “have some skin in the game”.

Maybe then we will see some leadership!

Tucknroll 9th May 2021 11:42


Originally Posted by ScepticalOptomist (Post 11041585)
I think we need one to make people “have some skin in the game”.

Maybe then we will see some leadership!

Imagine suggesting that we need a breakout and the accompanying fear, panic and misery to get you back to work sooner.

Sort your priorities out.

ExtraShot 9th May 2021 23:53

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fede...09-p57qah.html


Just as I said... :}

Wage growth must be crushed, House prices to the moon, edu-migration rentseekers must be able to continue to sell off the quality of our kids education...

International travel will return as rapidly as the vaccination rates make it possible after the federal election.

ScepticalOptomist 10th May 2021 10:25


Originally Posted by Tucknroll (Post 11041592)
Imagine suggesting that we need a breakout and the accompanying fear, panic and misery to get you back to work sooner.

Sort your priorities out.

Settle down mate, I was being facetious.

OBNO 10th May 2021 12:21


Originally Posted by ruprecht (Post 11041446)
Yes it’s an interesting loop we find ourselves in.

We have zero covid so there is no rush to get vaccinated so the border opening gets further delayed so there is no covid so there is no rush to get vaccinated so the border opening gets further delayed so there is no covid so there is no rush to get vaccinated so the border opening gets further delayed so there is no covid so there is no rush to get vaccinated so the border opening gets further delayed so there is no covid so there is no rush to get vaccinated so the border opening gets further delayed so there is no covid so there is no rush to get vaccinated...

:hmm:

And that pretty much sums it all up.

ManillaChillaDilla 10th May 2021 21:06

Well said OBNO.

Political games under the guise of health care and " Safety " for all australians.

We are effectively being held hostage by those desperately trying to look relevant. We have all been on this oneway path for a long time now with seemily no exit strategy.

With an election year approaching, this has nothing to do with the welfare of australians ( unless you are a celebrity, Tennis player, Cricketer or very wealthy ). Have an election tomorrow and watch things change border wise.

This ridiculous situation is a politicians olympics.

But hey, the economy is going gangbusters!!!!!!. Really?

These slugs cant even manage a vacine rollout. How the hell are they going to navigate a clear path forward for the country?

MCD


SOPS 11th May 2021 08:40

https://www.news.com.au/travel/trave...0a9094cdab7071

This sounds positive.... not!!!!

Angle of Attack 11th May 2021 10:21

Yet another failure of the Submarine with fly screens known as Hotel Quarantine. But Scomo said it’s 99.99% effective? Yeah right 99.8% of returned travellers never had it in the fist place. With the latest leak in Adelaides shitty system, if you look at all positive returned travellers this shitshow is now approaching a 5% leak rate, completely unacceptable. SA and WA now have the worst leak rate in hotel quarantine per positive cases, quite frankly I would now banish them from the hotel quarantine system full stop. When will we actually get the Feds to actually do something and build quarantine centres as recommended 1 year ago? Let’s face it SA and WA have been the main culprits in shutting borders down but it’s now obvious why…they can’t handle anything properly…..bumpkins….and don’t bag me I’ve lived in both WA and SA, just their governments are crap atm.

ruprecht 11th May 2021 10:31

So you’re overseas and you don’t have covid. You return to Australia covid-free for hotel quarantine that YOU PAY FOR. You then spend two weeks sitting in a shitty hotel room where you catch covid from some random bloke next door.

F*ck that.

SOPS 11th May 2021 10:57

I’m guessing now 2023???


https://www.news.com.au/finance/econ...5c63354da71758

Oriana 11th May 2021 12:19

So, Australia goes full circle and becomes a prisoner's island.


DirectAnywhere 11th May 2021 12:27


Originally Posted by ruprecht (Post 11042633)
So you’re overseas and you don’t have covid. You return to Australia covid-free for hotel quarantine that YOU PAY FOR. You then spend two weeks sitting in a shitty hotel room where you catch covid from some random bloke next door.

F*ck that.

I had the same discussion with my wife tonight. I reckon things are at the stage where I'd be happier running around the US with two doses of Pfizer in my arm than I would be sitting unvaccinated in an Australian quarantine hotel.

havick 11th May 2021 16:49


Originally Posted by DirectAnywhere (Post 11042701)
I had the same discussion with my wife tonight. I reckon things are at the stage where I'd be happier running around the US with two doses of Pfizer in my arm than I would be sitting unvaccinated in an Australian quarantine hotel.

So you finally took the red pill and saw the light?

DirectAnywhere 12th May 2021 00:45


Originally Posted by havick (Post 11042823)
So you finally took the red pill and saw the light?

I don’t know what that means, but maybe? Generally my wife tells me what colour the pill is and what I should be seeing so I just go with that.

dr dre 12th May 2021 01:13

“Taking the red pill” is a term used by some to describe when you stop believing “mainstream opinion” and start believing “the secret truth”. Widely used by conspiracy theorists.

However in relation to the above post it wouldn’t be applicable, as it is mainstream scientific opinion that vaccines provide safety from viral illnesses. So wanting to be vaccinated to protect against Covid would be taking the “blue pill” (remaining with mainstream thought), whereas anti vaxxers will say they took the “red pill” when they realised the “truth” about vaccines.

1A_Please 12th May 2021 01:36


Originally Posted by dr dre (Post 11043002)
“Taking the red pill” is a term used by some to describe when you stop believing “mainstream opinion” and start believing “the secret truth”. Widely used by conspiracy theorists.

However in relation to the above post it wouldn’t be applicable, as it is mainstream scientific opinion that vaccines provide safety from viral illnesses. So wanting to be vaccinated to protect against Covid would be taking the “blue pill” (remaining with mainstream thought), whereas anti vaxxers will say they took the “red pill” when they realised the “truth” about vaccines.

I'm now over 50. Taking the "blue pill" means something else again!!!

havick 12th May 2021 04:15


Originally Posted by dr dre (Post 11043002)
“Taking the red pill” is a term used by some to describe when you stop believing “mainstream opinion” and start believing “the secret truth”. Widely used by conspiracy theorists.

However in relation to the above post it wouldn’t be applicable, as it is mainstream scientific opinion that vaccines provide safety from viral illnesses. So wanting to be vaccinated to protect against Covid would be taking the “blue pill” (remaining with mainstream thought), whereas anti vaxxers will say they took the “red pill” when they realised the “truth” about vaccines.

Think you’re misinterpreting my point.

I’m vaccinated.

My point was all the data and cases loads and deaths you’re reading about in the USA is massively inflated.

I’ve witnessed first hand in the US car crash victims being chalked up as Covid death even though Covid had zero to do with it, the deceased wasn’t even tested for it.

Secondly I personally know of more than a few people that we positive for Covid, took two weeks off, and then tested positive another 9-10 times after the two weeks. All the subsequent positive tests (from the same person!), counted as new Covid cases here in the US.

The above is the norm, not the exception.

Double_Clutch 12th May 2021 04:55

Think Costco has Tin Foil on sale today

rattman 12th May 2021 10:12


Originally Posted by havick (Post 11043041)
Think you’re misinterpreting my point.

I’m vaccinated.


I’ve witnessed first hand in the US car crash victims being chalked up as Covid death even though Covid had zero to do with it, the deceased wasn’t even tested for it.

Secondly I personally know of more than a few people that we positive for Covid, took two weeks off, and then tested positive another 9-10 times after the two weeks. All the subsequent positive tests (from the same person!), counted as new Covid cases here in the US.

The above is the norm, not the exception.

***Cough*** Bullshit ***Cough***

SOPS 12th May 2021 10:53


Originally Posted by rattman (Post 11043212)
***Cough*** Bullshit ***Cough***

What he said.


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