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rattman 15th May 2021 21:41


Originally Posted by 601 (Post 11045119)
In Qld we are still waiting on the Qld Govt to open Vac Centres.
Trouble is the Qld Govt does not have the money for Vac Centres, rather have the Feds pay for it through the Doctors and Medicare

Err what they are at public hospitals

SHVC 15th May 2021 22:17


Originally Posted by Joker89 (Post 11045272)
Itís ridiculous that the vax centres werenít part of the roll out plan back in March. Who thought that paying doctors to deliver jabs was the most efficient way forward.

Doctors have always been paid to administer the jab.

Global Aviator 15th May 2021 23:00

Offer the jab to anyone who wants it, simple. If that results in unable to keep up with supply then so be it. You may have read about a Darwin jab center having to throw out 50 jabs... Absolute madness.

There is certainly a large proportion of population who don’t want, don’t think the jab is necessary.

Maybe create herd mentality, oh look everyone is going to get the jab.

Joker89 16th May 2021 00:02


Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11045305)
Doctors have always been paid to administer the jab.

donít doctors have actual patients to see, expecting them to have the capacity for a nation wide vaccine rollout is naive or corrupt

WingNut60 16th May 2021 00:14


Originally Posted by Joker89 (Post 11045340)
donít doctors have actual patients to see, expecting them to have the capacity for a nation wide vaccine rollout is naive or corrupt

When was the last time that you had a vaccination delivered by a DOCTOR.

My local medical centre has a doctor overseeing the activity of several nurses (I presume??) collecting acceptance forms and administering inoculation.
Not terribly arduous for the doctor and a great little money spinner for the clinic.

601 16th May 2021 12:07


When was the last time that you had a vaccination delivered by a DOCTOR.
Flu vax second week of April 2021 and he has given us the flu vax every year since we started getting it..

Our doctor is not doing COVID as he does not have the facilities.
Other local doctors are jabbing their own "Patient List" first so we are way down the list.
But we could get onto that "list" if we become one of their "regular patients" and leave the doc we have had for 29 years.


Err what they are at public hospitals
Don't understand that statement.

compressor stall 16th May 2021 21:05


Originally Posted by WingNut60 (Post 11045343)
When was the last time that you had a vaccination delivered by a DOCTOR.
.

Last week.

WingNut60 16th May 2021 21:36


Originally Posted by compressor stall (Post 11045819)
Last week.

Yogistan,eh. Did you take a good look at his diploma?

C441 16th May 2021 22:14


Originally Posted by Car RAMROD (Post 11044820)
Medical staff who work with covid patients currently do not need to isolate for two weeks after work. They can go straight out after shift. Why would them working in a camp suddenly require them to have two weeks of isolation?
See the hypocrisy thread.....

True, but it doesn't alter the fact that regional areas currently struggle to get staff to operate standard GP clinics and hospitals. Short of an offer of a lot of money, why would a medical practitioner travel to a regional quarantine centre when they won't go to a standard medical centre?

ruprecht 16th May 2021 22:32


Originally Posted by C441 (Post 11045841)
True, but it doesn't alter the fact that regional areas currently struggle to get staff to operate standard GP clinics and hospitals. Short of an offer of a lot of money, why would a medical practitioner travel to a regional quarantine centre when they won't go to a standard medical centre?

Maybe thatís the plan for the A380 crew: staffing the quarantine centre :p.

Cafe City 16th May 2021 23:30


Originally Posted by WingNut60 (Post 11045343)
When was the last time that you had a vaccination delivered by a DOCTOR.

My local medical centre has a doctor overseeing the activity of several nurses (I presume??) collecting acceptance forms and administering inoculation.
Not terribly arduous for the doctor and a great little money spinner for the clinic.

My wife had her first jab from a DOCTOR a couple of weeks ago too. Our local medical clinic appears to be running a roster for the DOCTORS to be coming in on Sundays to deliver jabs to their existing patients.

Judging by the number of phone calls related to bookings and managing a waiting area with 5 minute appointment times while I was waiting for her , I would say that it was quite arduous and doubtful itís a money spinner at all.

PS. Iíll admit to normally being on the opposite side of politics to Dr Dre and some others no doubt but Iím getting fed up with the Good Cop/Bad Cop routine that Morrison has been playing the past few months. Get rid of the supercilious cheesy grin Scott and start taking Federal responsibility instead of duck-shoving everything to everybody else.

WingNut60 16th May 2021 23:53


Originally Posted by Cafe City (Post 11045863)
My wife had her first jab from a DOCTOR a couple of weeks ago too. Our local medical clinic appears to be running a roster for the DOCTORS to be coming in on Sundays to deliver jabs to their existing patients.

Judging by the number of phone calls related to bookings and managing a waiting area with 5 minute appointment times while I was waiting for her , I would say that it was quite arduous and doubtful itís a money spinner at all.

PS. Iíll admit to normally being on the opposite side of politics to Dr Dre and some others no doubt but Iím getting fed up with the Good Cop/Bad Cop routine that Morrison has been playing the past few months. Get rid of the supercilious cheesy grin Scott and start taking Federal responsibility instead of duck-shoving everything to everybody else.

OK, thanks. We've established that DOCTORS do still give vax jabs.
Just hasn't been my experience for a very long time.

In a world where surgeons now get the theatre nurses to open and close for them I guess it's re-assuring that some doctors still involve themselves in the mundane side of their profession.

Fonz121 16th May 2021 23:55

My partner got their second Pfizer jab this morning at the biggest hospital vaccine clinic in Qld. Four people were there. In other words it was dead.

They need a vaccine carrot ASAP. Announce some kind of privilege for those who are vaccinated. It can be a gimmick like in Ohio (all those vaccinated are entered into a lottery for a million dollars). Or it could be freedom of movement. The latter would be much preferred, but just do something ffs.

The Aus Open and F1 are now saying they’ll be taken overseas if our borders don’t change as the players will refuse to quarantine again.

cloudsurfng 16th May 2021 23:57

Perhaps the issue with federal responsibility is a few rogue premiers who want things done Ďa different wayí.

truth is, weíll never know what happens in national cabinet when these things are discussed, as itís secret and separate from parliament. We only hear what they want us to hear. For all we know Scotty could have a plan but itís being scuttled by premiers. Or Scotty could not have a plan, and premiers now think they all know best.

Potsie Weber 17th May 2021 00:42


Originally Posted by Fonz121 (Post 11045873)
My partner got their second Pfizer jab this morning at the biggest hospital vaccine clinic in Qld. Four people were there. In other words it was dead.

They need a vaccine carrot ASAP. Announce some kind of privilege for those who are vaccinated. It can be a gimmick like in Ohio (all those vaccinated are entered into a lottery for a million dollars). Or it could be freedom of movement. The latter would be much preferred, but just do something ffs.

The Aus Open and F1 are now saying theyíll be taken overseas if our borders donít change as the players will refuse to quarantine again.

Absolutely, we are already 2.8m doses behind the revised target (1st dose by 31 Dec). At current rate, it will take another 30mths to fully vaccinate the adult population. It will take the cancellation of big sporting events for at least some people to realise what a hermit nation we are becoming, even that will unlikely do too much to speed things up.

Foxxster 17th May 2021 03:53

We are the victims of our own success.

If we had gone through what the UK, USA, Italy, Spain and now India have then we would be queuing up. The truth is most Australians havenít been that affected either financially or by the virus itself. And few would have had a relative or friend who has been hospitalised or died from it. With the exception of no international travel things are back to normal.

Maybe we need to raise taxes now to pay back the debt or put towards those still affected. Might sharpen peopleís minds as to the cost of keeping things closed due to low vaccination rates. Of course you would need bi partisan agreement which would never happen.

And In fact the well off are going to get tax reductions apparently.

dr dre 17th May 2021 09:10

Well everyone's favourite Premier Gladys has given the number of people she wants vaccinated in NSW before she'll open international borders:


“In NSW, we know that we need to do at least around 10 million jabs to get the majority of our population vaccinated,” Ms Berejiklian said.

So far, 926,242 vaccine doses have been administered by NSW Health, the GP network and Commonwealth clinics.

“We have around 6 million adults and you would think at least 5 million should be vaccinated before we can have those conversations,” Ms Berejiklian said.
NSW 9 million vaccines away from considering open (international) borders: Premier

anson harris 17th May 2021 09:52

I really hate the title of this thread and the way it makes my heart skip a beat every time I read it.

Ladloy 17th May 2021 10:03


Originally Posted by dr dre (Post 11046044)
Well everyone's favourite Premier Gladys has given the number of people she wants vaccinated in NSW before she'll open international borders:



NSW 9 million vaccines away from considering open (international) borders: Premier

Feds ****** us there.

SHVC 17th May 2021 19:22

Tennis players have said they’re not willing to do another round of HQ so are not willing to do that for the open to go ahead. Doha or Dubai are in the running to take that slam off Australia. For the F1 to happen there is no chance of HQ as there is less than 14 days between the previous round.

Australia needs to wake up and keep living once these events leave our shores they’re gone forever and it would be a shame. Time to open up otherwise stop wasting money on a pointless vaccination program.


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