EasyJet - 4

[dwlpl]

For some reason the 10th based aircraft schedules at Liverpool has disappeared into the ether and that may have had the extra BFS flight you would have wanted.

The airlines CEO did promise some weeks ago that more Liverpool routes would be announced and todays IOM is the first since then.

[tigger2k8]

For the first time in over 20 years, it looks like there is to be no Saturday flight home from Liverpool to Belfast on a Saturday evening. Looking at the start of the next football season in August, the current easyJet timetable shows the last flight home from Liverpool on a Saturday to be at 17.15.

Unless an additional flight is added into their schedule at a later date, this will mean the end of day‑return trips on a Saturday for us for the foreseeable future (except for the 12.45pm kick offs).

Realistically, is there any hope of an additional flight appearing on their timetable?

might just be my bad memory, but i can recall this happened last year, maybe not just as early but there was defo a stage in the schedule last year (either the end (last month) of the summer schedule or the start of winter) that the last turnaround from BFS was to GLA round 1800.. could be wrong though

could be that either BFS or LPLs schedule is not 100% confirmed yet... if theres a demand for the flight then im sure they will add it in..

[dwlpl]

could be that either BFS or LPLs schedule is not 100% confirmed yet... if theres a demand for the flight then im sure they will add it in..

Could be right, but the demand is there as its EZYs busiest.

[david1994]

LPL - IOM - LPL is now ready for booking :ok: first flight is Friday 21st May ... seems to be a 1hr 5 minute turn around in IOM

[dwlpl]

seems to be a 1hr 5 minute turn around in IOM

When I looked earlier it was 25 minutes.

[MUFC_fan]

For some reason the 10th based aircraft schedules at Liverpool has disappeared into the ether and that may have had the extra BFS flight you would have wanted.


The 10th aircraft will be doing DSA won't it?

[ESCNI]

Thanks for the optimism, folks.

I'll put the divorce lawyers on hold....for the moment.

[dwlpl]

The 10th aircraft will be doing DSA won't it?

Then it wont be the 10th based, it will be DSA first based aircraft.

This taken from the article in January -

It already bases nine aircraft at JLA and in June will add a 10th to service three new routes.

And the son of a Bootle docker’s family pledged more will follow. He said: “There’s no reason to think the growth will stop.

“Over the past three months we have flown 10% more people.

“We have found it easier to win market share in a recession than in the good times.

“We are doing this in the teeth of a recession. In a more normal environment we expect to still move forward. There is no saturation point for us.”

Mr Harrison said Easyjet takes a longer-term view than rival Ryanair and sees long-term growth for JLA.

He said: “Easyjet is going to carry on growing in Liverpool.

“We have a much longer term philosophy. We don’t just move the planes around like butterflies.

“We have a number of ideas for Liverpool and there will be some new routes coming out in the next couple of months.”

[MUFC_fan]

Sorry, I must have miss understood. So there will be crew for 11 aircraft but only 10 aircraft based?


He said: “Easyjet is going to carry on growing in Liverpool.

“We have a much longer term philosophy. We don’t just move the planes around like butterflies.

“We have a number of ideas for Liverpool and there will be some new routes coming out in the next couple of months.”


Remember that he is leaving soon so I wouldn't take it as given, but 10% more passengers is a big rise and definitely reason for expansion.

[james170969]

What do you think the chances are that Easyjet will increase the number if routes to the Isle of Man?

[MUFC_fan]

What do you think the chances are that Easyjet will increase the number if routes to the Isle of Man?


An impossible question to answer.

It could go the way of Jersey or the route could work and others added.

I would guess at the first - if not, I fear the BE will be in trouble on the island.

[IB4138]

It needs to be bourne in mind, that this is the first year that Steam Packet will have the large high speed cat Manananan operating LPL-IOM from late March ( ie: for the full season), with a crossing time of just 2 hours 30 minutes, up to twice a day.

Fares for a car + 2 people starting at £58 each way.

Just who will get squeezed, we will have to wait and see.

With check-in times, Steam Packet could prove to be the quickest and cheapest to/from Douglas/Liverpool.

[AndyH52]

I'm not sure where this suggestion that the DSA based aircraft would be serviced by LPL-based crew, or using an aircraft drawn from the LPL-based fleet - there is no logic to it.

As for the IOM debate don't forget that only 6 years ago the LPL-IOM route was carrying over 200,000 pax a year - roughly 70,000 more than last year.

[The Flying Cokeman]

AndyH52,


easyJet announced this internally when the DSA routes were announced. Plane and crew are LPL based.

[ryansf]

The aircraft swap over in Amsterdam everyday IIRC, i.e. one aircraft will do DSA-AMS-LPL and the other will do LPL-AMS-DSA, which then goes off to do Barcelona or whatever.

[dwlpl]

There is no 10th aircraft at LPL, 9 depart in the morning and 9 return at night.

[squeaker]

Perhaps they had ten, but one got nicked?

[compton3bravo]

Or its fuselage ended up on bricks!

[Random Flyer]

Perhaps they had ten, but one got nicked?



Or its fuselage ended up on bricks!


LOL love it! :D

[harbour cotter]

Er, On bricks? If you think you are funny with that old prattle then try the comedian cicuits, but dont give up your day job.

Come on, keep it relevant to the forum and not by making immature irrelevances which were out of date 40 years ago and even more so now. If you want to know where the worst crime in the UK per head of population, then it is 35 miles away. But dont go down that route, just PLEASE keep the thread appropriate.

[Hamburg 2K8]

Have had to change my EZY flight from Liverpool to Barcelona in May, was due to fly out on a Sunday night but now going out on a Saturday evening instead, website still shows sunday night flight on the date (9th May). Anyone know what the loads are like on this route? Do Monarch still fly to Barcelona from MAN?

[Ian Brooks]

As has been said the 10th aircraft is the DSA aircraft which swaps over each day
but night stops at DSA

Ian B

[ExpectmorePayless]

In May, ZB fly daily MAN-BCN.
0800 departure Mon-Sat, 1530 departure Sun.
Mix of A320 & A321 :ok:

[compton3bravo]

Oh come on Harbour Cutter it is only a joke -an old one I will give you that. If you cannot laugh at yourself there is no hope. Fortunately I have done my stint at working so will leave that up to you now thank you, but cheer up. As they say if you cannot stand the heat get out of the kitchen!

[ben_keghead]

Then there is another aircraft to arrive in June, for the new routes form Liverpool to Bodrum, Rhodes and Malta. It is assumed this will be a 2nd A320.

[lfc84]

IOM-LPL timetable has been updated. its showing as daily (excpet tuesdays).

there were some comments about the lack of sunday flights in the initial scheduling in particular. so this has been changed.

[flyOU]

in Croatia there are any rumours about easyjet and Zagreb. It should be 6 destinations from Zagreb, does anybody know about it?

[racedo]

ASA - ASA Adjudication on easyJet Airline Co Ltd (http://www.asa.org.uk/Complaints-and-ASA-action/Adjudications/2010/3/easyJet-Airline-Co-Ltd/TF_ADJ_48184.aspx)

WOW Advertising Standards Agency agree with Ryanair............expect now to see Blue Moon and Flying Pig

[Kingfisher]

On Sky news today the former CEO of easyjet, Andy Harrison is now the CEO of Whitbread. He was also on the list for a bookmaker. Ill people look up the share price for Whitbread and draw their own conclusions.

[Devils Advocate]

By joining Whitbread (http://www.whitbread.co.uk/about_us.cfm?id=our_history), he's obviuously trying to discredit the claim of being unable to run a p!ss-up in a brewery?! ;)

[Binder]

....And his 'bribe' for staying on at easy till June has Costa lot!

[Buster the Bear]

Whitbread haven't brewed beer in ages.

[pabely]

As Whitbread PLC are based in Dunstable & Luton, I doubt Andy Harrison has needed to find a new home!:p

[easyJet A321]

All I know of is the NCL-GVA-BOH-GVA-NCL and I'm not sure what else is operated on W's. Sorry for not being much help!

[EI-BUD]

On Sunday´s I think a NCL based machine does NCL BFS STN BFS NCL. Prior to christmas on this schedule (ie winter 2009/10) this was the case when I flew BFS STN, the pilot advised that NCL Crew were working on the flight.

There are some surprising W patterns these days, On Tuesday a LGW crew did
LGW BFS BCN BFS LGW!

EI-BUD

[occasional]

I wish they would do some Ws with EDI and GLA in the middle.

EDI and GLA have catchment areas which include very long travel times to the airport, which in a rational world should lead to departures in the middle of the day being particularly attractive.

[Agaricus bisporus]

EasyJet to name media boss new CEO: reports - Yahoo! Canada News (http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/afp/100324/world/britain_airline_media_company_executive_easyjet)

The UK's bleeding-heart newspaper's ex boss is to run Easyjet.

How will all that bunny-hugging, hand-wringing angst fit with one of the harshest airlines' policies?

Do leopards change, or just get repainted a bad-taste shade of orange?

[captplaystation]

A bit like socialist politicians really I imagine, they are only socialists for all the other folk. When it comes down to them and their renumeration package etc etc . . . capitalists through and through.
Wouldn't hold out too much hope of this one being the workers saviour some might hope, just another leftie hypocrate I would wager. She won't have been appointed on a manifesto of making Easy a peoples airline for employees, that's for sure :hmm:

[Dodo56]

Press articles on her suggest she is something of a go-getter with a very proactive attitude towards employee communication and a "pragmatic approach" to HR. Very much the sort of CEO that EZY need to succeed in these tough times I'd have said, though I wonder how she will get on with no previous experience in the airline business.

[orangegirl]

Just saw on easyjet.com, on the routemap a new route.. to bcn, nce, prg and a few more.
does anybody know where this is from/to?

(as the line disappears out of the map)

[racedo]

24 year veteran of Media now to run Easyjet.......................I just wonder whether she climbed to the top of the tree at The Guardian on merit or because of her gender given the paper's credentials.

I find it a strange appointment given the customer facing nature of the role, yes people will question MO'L position but he developed the airline to where it is rather than be a direct appointment of a successful airline.

Maybe proven wrong but seems to be an appointment by the biggest shareholder to keep control rather than one who will drive the airline forward. I just would have expected someone with a lot more customer service / FMCG in their background.

[toledoashley]

My guess is they are routes from EMA that have just been deleted as EMA is now off the route map.

[easyboy22]

*
easyJet plc announces the appointment of a new Chief Executive**
**
easyJet plc announces that Carolyn McCall OBE will join the Board of easyJet plc as Chief Executive. Carolyn joins from Guardian Media Group where she has carried out a number of roles including, since 2006, the position of Group Chief Executive. Carolyn has a proven track record of successful operational delivery in a fast changing on-line consumer facing business combined with extensive plc Board and government and lobbying experience.

[Cahlibahn]

re # 794
If I'm looking at the same map as orangegirl, it has to be a map error. Note that routes denoted in red are on sale and operating now. The line appears to disappear off toward Reykjavík/Keflavik. The only new route from Nice that I know of is Rome, Barcelona is getting a new route to Doncaster but I'm not aware of anything new from Prague

[dwlpl]

They usually do this (have the line pointing off the map around Iceland) when they are set to announce a new route.

In the drop down menu before (its gone now though) it had a BCN to Hamburg route that they have yet to announce.

[thebeehive]

Also a line shooting off Iceland's way from GVA

[cesare.caldi]

Also from AGP, ALC and VCE

[Random Flyer]

Also from AGP, ALC and VCE


You can also add FAO and PMI to the list. :)

[ben_keghead]

Are these all the routes left behind from East Midlands closing?

[Flightrider]

So it looks like a new destination getting services to Malaga, Alicante, Palma, Faro and Geneva. Bets would have to be on the UK regions, surely. It is highly unlikely that any European city of origin would be launched only ont he basis of new services to the Med sun spots.

Now, they want to expand further at Manchester and can't do so unless they expand in equal measure at Peel Airports to honour the agreement between the two. They already serve Liverpool and are launching services from DSA. My memory may be dimming with age, but I think Peel own another UK regional airport which has recently lost services to all of these destinations?

One hopes that the Newcastle-based crews can find their way down the A19.

I might be putting two and two together and getting an answer of 17, but I will be interested to see whether I'm remotely close to the mark when the announcement is made.

[mmeteesside]

So it looks like a new destination getting services to Malaga, Alicante, Palma, Faro and Geneva

So thats Alicante, Barcelona, Faro, Geneva, Nice, Palma and Prague?

[nema/robin hood]

mmeteesside
So thats Alicante, Barcelona, Faro, Geneva, Nice, Palma and Prague?

All of the routes that operated from EMA - Think you will find that these are not 'new' routes to be announced, rather the 'old' ones that used to operate and have been removed from the route map.:ok:

Stu

[Ivor Fynn]

Flightrider - I think that agreement with LPL and MAN is an EX agreement. I thought the company bought LPL out of the agreement.

Ivor

[loveJet]

Bournemouth-Geneva service is doing very well, in fact better performance than that from other UK airports on easyJet's network. Will this convince easyJet that they should act soon on other more potential new routes from Bournemouth before they are taken by other carriers? easyJet tried Krakow and Grenoble from BOH but these are not particularly obvious viable routes. Others such as Nice, Madeira, Rome, Berlin (not to mention domestic to Glasgow, Edinburgh) would surely make sense.

[ryand36]

Does anyone now how many a/c are based at each airport for the summer 2001 schedule?

It would be interesting to compare to last year.

Thanks

[Seljuk22]

I guess it is something like this:

Gatwick 43
Malpensa 18
Luton 16 (maybe only 13)
Stansted 13
Bristol 11
Paris-CDG 9 (10 from 14th May)
Liverpool 9 (10 from June)
Geneva 9 (10 from June)
Berlin 9
Madrid 8
Paris-ORY 7
Belfast 6
Newcastle 6
Manchester 4 (5 from May)
Basel 4 (5 from 25th June)
Rome 4
Glasgow 4
Edinburgh 4
Lyon 3
Doncaster 1 (from 19th April)

LGW, MXP, CDG, LPL, GVA and MAN gained the most (2 or more a/c)
ORY, BSL, FCO (wasn't a base last summer - flights were op. by MXP based a/c), LYS and DSC (new base) gained 1 a/c.
EMA isn't a base anymore and lost 3 a/c

[cjags]

NCL will be 5 based a/c this summer

[compton3bravo]

I see easyJet have had to charter in aircraft to operate some services and a few flights cancelled over the last couple of days - surely not due to bad weather! I suspect lack of flight crews?

[champair79]

Glad to see the summer 2010 scheds for LTN-SAW have changed to an A319 from the 737. Hopefully that means the end of the endless cancellations over the winter period (presumably due to lack of flight crew/aircraft??) :ok:

[cesare.caldi]

Any rumors about possible new routes from september/october when summer seasonal routes close?

[baileygates]

Glad to see the summer 2010 scheds for LTN-SAW have changed to an A319 from the 737. Hopefully that means the end of the endless cancellations over the winter period (presumably due to lack of flight crew/aircraft??)

How many days was this route cancelled then!?

[champair79]

Originally it operated daily. Towards the end of the winter scheds I think Easy were operating just 3 or 4 days a week (Monday, Saturday and Sunday??? off the top of my head) apparently due to 'operational reasons.' Either it was low demand or the crewing issues with the 737. It's operating daily at the moment which is what it was supposed to do over the winter period. I had first hand experience of having to change my flight in January and my friend had to change his 2 weeks ago.

[Flare-Idle]

Pax: 3'964'399 , +13.5%
Load Factor: 87.5%, +2.8%

Rolling 12 months:
Pax: 47'222'171, +6.8%
Load Factor: 86.4%, +1.4%

[Seljuk22]

Keep on growing!

March: -6.3%
April: +6.3% (Easter)
May: +1.8%
June: +0.8%
July: +4.3%
August: +4.7%
September: +5.3%
October: +6.6%
November: +12.2%
December: +9.3%
January: +10.7%
February: +12.3%
March: +13.5%

[cptcollins]

I see EZY have just 8 B737's remaining. I was curious as to what routes these were used on. I'm flying LTN-CDG rtn later this month and was hoping to grab a final trip on one before they became 100% airbus. Website sadly doesn't provide equipment info which I guess means that aircraft type varies without warning.

Anyway, if any knows the answer....

[Buenos]

I am sure Luton is an all-Airbus base, the remaining 737-700's are operated in Belfast, and somewhere else. However, I'm not completely certain.

[Thad Jarvis]

LTN is the only remaining Boeing base. BFS base is now all Airbus.

[Buenos]

My apologies! I am mistaken.

[ben_keghead]

Todays B737 flights from LTN
EZY2403 LTN-AGP G-EZKB
EZY2365 LTN-LIS G-EZKE
EZY2283 LTN-MXP G-EZKA
EZY2201 LTN-MAD G-EZKF
EZY2321 LTN-HAM G-EZKD
EZY2173 LTN-DTM G-EZKD
EZY2433 LTN-CDG G-EZKA
EZY8031 LTN-SEN G-EZJY
EZY2075 LTN-BUD G-EZKF
EZY2031 LTN-BOD G-EZKE
EZY2333 LTN-KRK G-EZKB
EZY2425 LTN-GNB G-EZKC
EZY2279 LTN-PMI G-EZKA
EZY2161 LTN-AMS G-EZKC
EZY195 LTN-BHD G-EZKF
EZY2227 LTN-ALC G-EZKB

However, it seems like its different every day. Looks pretty similar next Sat. If you tell me the day, I can tell you what its currently scheduled at

[pamann]

Why start a new thread... Can't this go on the Easyjet thread? This is happening all the time lately new threads started when the heading subject i.e; "EASYJET" already has a thread. The term "Thread Happy" could have been created this last few weeks. :ugh:

[Seljuk22]

EZY switches some orders: 10 more A320 - 10 less A319

in total (Source: Airbus, March 2010):
A319: 192 on order (was 202), 149 delivered
A320: 35 on order (was 25), 21 delivered

Do the A321 remain in the fleet and when will the B737 leave the fleet?

[ben_keghead]

Excellent news....and I would be expecting to see more A319 orders changed to A320s

[david1994]

Do the A321 remain in the fleet and when will the B737 leave the fleet?

B737's to leave by end 2011, 5 aircraft was retired in March 2010 from Belfast Intl.

And the A321's are to leave by September 2010.

[parky747]

Anymore news on what is planned for MAN after a/c number 5 arrives?

[easyJet A321]

Great news about the extra A320's! Does anyone have any indication of where these are to be based? Hopefully a few in the UK, would be good for at least one at GLA, 1 more for MAN and BRS, one each for STN and NCL and no doubt more will be going to LGW.

[Carnethy]

Not sure about GLA but I think EDI will be getting one with the new PFO route starting later this year (though not announced yet). Reckon further expansion at EDI likely :ok:

[easyJet A321]

Thats good news! What other ones are to be announced from EDI? I can still see GLA getting one though.

[Random Flyer]

Not sure about GLA but I think EDI will be getting one with the new PFO route starting later this year (though not announced yet). Reckon further expansion at EDI likely.

Glasgow is higher up on the "A320 list" than EDI. GLA was meant to receive its first A320 last week but due to circumstances elsewhere the plans change at the last minute, back in January.

[HH6702]

How do you know edi will be getting paphos later and a A320?

Maybe they will add paphos from ncl for the winter? Using 320's ?

[easyJet A321]

I've just seen PFS on NCL's drop down list, but its gone now! Hopefully means an A320 to be based there soon!

[Carnethy]

Raft of new low-cost flights from Paphos - Cyprus Mail (http://redirectingat.com/?id=42X487496&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cyprus-mail.com%2Fcyprus%2Fraft-new-low-cost-flights-paphos%2F20100228&sref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pprune.org%2Fairlines-airports-routes%2F193378-edinburgh-32.html)

This has already been discussed in the Edinburgh thread. Wouldn't be surprised if there was an A320 at every base once all are delivered.

[GoEDI]

EDI-PFO was made public by the Cyprus tourist board a month or two ago, however apparently it wasn't EZY's intention to launch it until the winter timetable so it should never have been made public this early at all! However, until it's on sale on EZY's website I won't be getting my hopes up, time will tell.
This was the original news article actually:

Raft of new low-cost flights from Paphos - Cyprus Mail (http://www.cyprus-mail.com/cyprus/raft-new-low-cost-flights-paphos/20100228)

[toledoashley]

I would expect this is for expansion to Turkey/Cyprus/Egypt for next year.

[david1994]

I hope BFS is high on that list too. An a320 would be good for BFS.

I'll second that one :ok:

[ben_keghead]

EZY to operate LPL-BFS-LPL this morning. The only flight that will be operating from the north of england so far

[lurkio]

Nope, now cancelled.

[ben_keghead]

Indeed - as are the rest of the days flights from LPL

[qwertyuiop]

Anybody know how many pax Easy have stuck downroute?

[compton3bravo]

i would hazard a guess at quite a lot. Looking at my two local airports of Gibraltar and Malaga there are no seats available from Gib to the UK until next Tuesday on easy, Monarch and BA. There are some seats available on the Tuesday with BA costing over 1,000 pounds single! any takers. From Malaga there was some seats to Luton on Sunday 25th last night but nothing else until Tuesday with easy, Monarch and BA. Of course the longer this goes on people already booked to travel over the next few days have to be rebooked and these take priority I hope.

[Jamezon]

Priority over what?

Logically, no priority can be given to displaced passengers or that only perpetuates the problem and displaces later passengers.

From a business viewpoint, passengers can only be re-allocated as existing space permits. That is to say somebody who has had a flight cancelled cannot expect somebody who has booked for a future date in advance to be delayed to suit their issue. :rolleyes:

[david1994]

UK airspace will be opening tomorrow from 7am for Scotland, Blackpool and also Northern Ireland. Manchester by 9AM and London in afternoon :ok:

[cesare.caldi]

When will be reactivate check-in online?

[cesare.caldi]

When will go on sale Easyjet winter schedule?

[Cloud1]

Does anyone know if there are any human beings working in the so called Customer Experience Team? I have been on hold for over an hour and nothing.....whilst on the subject if anyone has their press office number please could you let me know - out of courtesy we shall give them an opportunity to justify the waiting time.

Other carriers have increased the size of the Call Centres to accomodate the extra calls - this is little short of ridiculous!

[toledoashley]

Having been on one of the worst flights ever to Egypt with MON, I wonder if EZY could go full on into that market - im sure they could pull it off. I would have thought Taba, Luxor, Marsa Alam & more UK regions (BRS/LPL/BFS) to SSH would work

[ben_keghead]

I doubt EZY will do a LPL-SSH as we have only this week started MAN-SSH...

[david1994]

more UK regions (BRS/LPL/BFS) to SSH would work

BFS would make a killing as TCX did it last winter and every B757 was at least full for all winter now we have nothing to Egypt over summer. TOM is starting a full summer one next summer 2011, but EZY would make a killing if they used there A321.

[ben_keghead]

Wouldnt be the A321 either, as they are all up for sale. Would be an EZY A320...should they base one in BFS

[MancRy]

I operated SSH on Sunday and they are very lucrative in terms of bar sales.......and that was with a light load on the return sector!

Anywhere North of MAN will really struggle with SSH on the A320......especially in the Winter.

[All names taken]

Has anyone noticed the irony in Easyjet's new advertising campaign, claiming how it operates to 'main' airports (a clear dig at RYR) but at the same time opening a base at.....Doncaster :confused:

Should anyone ever believe a word any of the locos say?

[lfc84]

i think you will find that doncaster is, err, doncaster. whereas some others go to barcelona, which is in fact girona or reus. that is the point being made.

[The Flying Cokeman]

easyJet does not have a base in Doncaster!

[EXS2592]

easyJet do have a base at Doncaster. See the attached article from BBC Yorkshire:

BBC News - Easyjet to fly from Doncaster's Robin Hood Airport (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/south_yorkshire/8406039.stm)
Regards

[All names taken]

sure but it's marketed as Doncaster/Sheffield - a illusion of Ryanair proportions. The irony being that it's exactly that kind of nonsense that Easyjet's ads are targeted at.

Cokeman

<<easyJet does not have a base in Doncaster!>>

They do now - keep up man

[MUFC_fan]

<<easyJet does not have a base in Doncaster!>>

They do now - keep up man


They don't. Lets get this cleared up. Crew night stop at DSA and then swap in AMS with an LPL crew and aircraft.

THERE IS CURRENTLY NO BASE AT DONCASTER SHEFFIELD INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT

:ugh::ugh::ugh:

[The Flying Cokeman]

All names taken,

I happen to work for this company and I can assure you no staff-no planes are based there. So I feel I am well up to date on this one!

Because Liverpool crew and planes are overnighting there does not make it a base :ugh:

[dwlpl]

Re aircraft swapping at AMS. Todays departure ex AMS to DSA is EZIO and the nearest arrival from LPL into AMS is EZIJ.

Re DSA base. These reckon it is EasyJet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EasyJet) , easyJet’s new Doncaster/Sheffield base will offer five routes; Spain and Poland are airport’s leading markets | anna.aero (http://www.anna.aero/2010/04/20/easyjet-launches-new-uk-base-at-doncaster-sheffield-with-five-routes-and-one-aircraft/) , easyJet launch Doncaster base and 36 new Routes AIRLINE ROUTE (http://airlineroute.net/2009/12/11/u2-s10-36routes/) , Doncaster move by budget carrier :: Routesonline (http://www.routesonline.com/news/34/travelmole/55823/doncaster-move-by-budget-carrier/) .

[dwlpl]

Because Liverpool ..... planes are overnighting there does not make it a base

I would say so.

[Akrapovic]

Has anyone noticed the irony in Easyjet's new advertising campaign, claiming how it operates to 'main' airports (a clear dig at RYR) but at the same time opening a base at.....Doncaster

No one's arguing about Doncaster - after all, easyJet aren't saying they fly to Leeds then dump you in Doncaster!

What thet mean by this is when easyJet say they operate into Paris, they operate into . . . .Paris (CDG, ORY). When they say they operate into Barcelona they fly you to Barcelona. ie - easyJet does what it says on the tin - the 'dig' you mention at Ryanair is that they sometimes don't . . .

[The Flying Cokeman]

DWLPL,

Well you are wrong then as it is not a base. FACT.

[Kavs8]

Guys, Guys, Guys ! :) DSA is an EasyJet base this has been confirmed by the airline with 39 staff stationed at DSA (Crew & Ground).....

[Cymmon]

We truly are a European business with 19 bases on the Continent, providing a home for Crew and Engineering Teams within our growing network. Current European bases include:

Basel
Belfast
Bristol
Berlin
Charles de Gaulle
East Midlands
Edinburgh
London Gatwick
London Luton
London Stansted
Geneva
Glasgow
Liverpool
Lyon
Madrid
Manchester
Milan Malpensa
Newcastle
Paris Orly From Easyjet site.

[easyboy22]

It is certainly not a base. There is no crew
based there as all the crews come from Lpl on 2/3/4 day trips
with some Man crew going as well..
So I don't know where you get that figure..

[AppleMacster]

Kavs8,

There is no crew permanently based at DSA. Crew only nightstop there; all end up back at LPL. That, is a fact. No crew park their cars at DSA in order to do a day's duties. There isn't even a crewroom.

Of course, it all depends on your definition of a base. If a base is somewhere where an aircraft appears to be parked overnight, then this might be a base. Taking this as a definition, most of BA's short haul route destinations would be bases. I'm sure those nightstopping BA crew would be the last ones to describe Sofia as a base...

Cymmon,

As any fule no, that list is out-of-date; that EMA is no longer a base is a moot point with quite a few relocated crew.

If people don't want to believe those of us who actually work for the airline and do the trips, then please relieve yourselves of the burden of this thread. Just because this is a rumour site doesn't mean that a thread has to be needlessly perpetuated in the most banal way to the nth degree, fuelled by inaccuracies and dodgy intelligence from the 'net. :ugh::ugh::ugh:

[MUFC_fan]

DSA is basically a parking space for one of their aircraft for the night. There is no offices for easyJet, no crew room, no crew, no admin etc. based at DSA.

Obviously if you class that as a 'base,' then that's fine, but you are wrong.

I think this will be argued to days if it isn't cut short.

The top and bottom of it is that every night an easyJet plane lands in DSA and the crew stay in a hotel. The plane then departs in the morning to AMS etc. and swaps with an LPL/MAN based machine and then that new aircraft flies the remainder of the days schedule and then lands at DSA in the evening, the crew again staying in a hotel. Its an on going circle.

LPL or MAN, for example, work completely differently. Crew arrive at the airport, visit the crew room, grab their plane, do a days work and return to their homes. The plane will then continue to fly for the remainder of the day and it starts again the following.

Do you consider FRA, CMB or SIN to be EK bases? What about SIN for QF? For goodness sakes, EI have more flights out of LHR early morning that U2 does with DSA all day! And they night-stop at LHR also! But again, they aren't 'bases.'

[h&s]

Quote:
We truly are a European business with 19 bases on the Continent, providing a home for Crew and Engineering Teams within our growing network. Current European bases include:
Basel
Belfast
Bristol
Berlin
Charles de Gaulle
East Midlands
Edinburgh
London Gatwick
London Luton
London Stansted
Geneva
Glasgow
Liverpool
Lyon
Madrid
Manchester
Milan Malpensa
Newcastle
Paris Orly
From Easyjet site.


Carefull Cymmon, easyjet website is part of the evidence a mess airline can still be profitable. It's not updated even if they have been worked on it for 2 years now and we still randomly sometimes have the former, sometimes the new format... As you can as well, there is still EMA for example in your list whereas it's not a base anymore.

I agree with the three previous members, it's not a base. It's exactly how they did with FCO at the beginning with several aircraft sleeping there but crews still coming from MXP etc until recently where the base were set up.
The only fact to sleep at the airport is not an enough criteria to define a base, or easyJet has also a base in NCE (every day one aircraft / crew stay overnight at Nice to go back to paris in the morning)

[Hamburg 2K8]

Is there anyway of finding out about the load factor on flights in advance? I'm off to Barcelona on Saturday at 07.15AM from Liverpool and returning on Sunday 16th May landing at Liverpool at 23.55. Will the current prices of the tickets give anything away?

Hope I will be going and that no new ash cloud shuts us down again :(

Thanks for any info given.

[Captain_Caveman]

Hamburg 2K8

Currently a incy wincy tad under 90% on your outbound and virtually full on your return !!

Enjoy your flight :ok:

[Jet A1]

I can vouch for DSA not being a base as my back is still recovering from the 'Breeze Block' matress in the Ramada Express !

[dwlpl]

The top and bottom of it is that every night an easyJet plane lands in DSA and the crew stay in a hotel. The plane then departs in the morning to AMS etc. and swaps with an LPL/MAN based machine and then that new aircraft flies the remainder of the days schedule and then lands at DSA in the evening, the crew again staying in a hotel. Its an on going circle.

Firstly as I pointed out yesterday now swap was done at AMS with a LPL/DSA aircraft.

Secondly EZY dont fly DSA/AMS 'in the morning'.

[one post only!]

Anyone else losing the will to live..................?

[All names taken]

Dear god - I wish I hadn't bothered. Just read back through all the preceding nonsense.
I was pointing out that it is ironic that at the same time as advertising that it flies from 'main' airports, it is loudly trumpeting that it is starting flying from Doncaster. Whether it's an operational base or any other kind of base is actually irrelevant to the point being made.
Pedantry (and knee jerk responding) lives on at pprune.
A scan through some of the other threads confirms.
As might be expected there are a number of Easyjet employees on here that, understandably, would wish to defend their employer. Fine. But if someone wants to point out contradictions in the way this airline (or any other) markets itself, that should be fine too. Chill.

[ben_keghead]

I dont also consider Liverpool, Bristol, or Newcastle to be 'Main airports' but easyJet have bases there.
However the destinations in which they fly to from all of the above plus Doncaster, are main, internationally aclaimed airports (AMS, BCN, PMI, PRG, FAO etc) not out of town tin huts like some other blue and yellow airlines may take their customers.

I still cant believe people are referring to DSA as a 'base'. It is NOT. 1xA319 nightstops, as do 2 LPL based crews. (1 for the early FAO/PRG, and 1 for the late AMS/BCN/PMI). They may stay 1 , 2 or 3 nights, depending on how it is rostered, finally returning to Liverpool at the end of the 'trip'.

For example, a crew may do LPL-FAO-DSA (nightstop) DSA-FAO-LPL.

Hope this clears it up once and for all.

[BFS101]

With this whole main airports debate, is the crux of the matter not advertising a major city or destination and flying to a smaller airport miles away? Easyjet are advertising Doncaster as Doncaster, not as Leeds or some other conurbation somewhere. The main airport for Doncaster, is surprisingly Doncaster.

Ryanair on the otherhand (amongst others) advertise a major city or destination, but will not actually fly you to that city's "main" airport, good examples being Hahn, Beauvais and Girona / Reus.

My take was Easyjet fly, not necessarily to only main cities or airports, but will fly you to the destiantions main airport (if that makes any sense).

[dwlpl]

I dont also consider Liverpool, Bristol, or Newcastle to be 'Main airports' but easyJet have bases there

Whats that about.

The 'main airport' point refers to the likes of FR using Hahn, for example, as an airport tagged as Frankfurt which is 75 miles away as opposed to Liverpool, in your example, thats sits entirely within the city boundary.

[one post only!]

My favourite one of theirs (the harp brigade) from a good few years ago was London Bournemouth!!!!!! Imagine that taxi bill. Covent gardens please!!!!!

[ben_keghead]

I was using it as a case of, Liverpool is not a main airport in the UK for example. Not a major international airport. That was the point of that comment. Thankyou please

Sorry for the confusion. Yes I do agree though if easyJet say they are taking you somewhere, they take you there

[dwlpl]

Liverpool is the third biggest airport, in terms of international passenger totals, outside of London in the UK behind MAN and BHX.

[ben_keghead]

And?

I said "I dont consider" meaning it is my personal opinion....and I work there. And I hate this, "3rd busiest UK airport outside London" Why not include the london airports and say it is the 7th busiest UK airport?
And if you also look i mention other airports such as Bristol and Newcastle.
Like I say, just an opinion

[Random Flyer]

Liverpool is the third biggest airport, in terms of international passenger totals, outside of London in the UK behind MAN and BHX.

So you are ignoring all the London Airports and other airport across the United Kingdom which have more passengers in total, just a higher percentage of domestic passengers, such as Glasgow and Edinburgh... what is the point on this?

Every airport in the United Kingdom could have a claim to being a major airport if you chose to ignore other airports existence... Cardiff Airport is the biggest airport in the United Kingdom outside England, Scotland and NI.... :rolleyes:

Inverness Airport is the biggest airport in the United Kingdom excluding all airports further south. :rolleyes:

I said "I dont consider" meaning it is my personal opinion....and I work there. And I hate this, "3rd busiest UK airport outside London" Why not include the london airports and say it is the 7th busiest UK airport?

And if you also look i mention other airports such as Bristol and Newcastle.

Like I say, just an opinion.

I would say you opinion is right!

You cant simply say "we wont count London airports, and Glasgow and Edinburgh dont matter because they have less international passengers".

As far as I'm aware, Liverpool is the 10th busiest airport in the United Kingdom.

[MancRy]

I too work for Easyjet...................but i don't own the airline and I speak using facts.

FACT: DSA is the main airport for Doncaster!

FACT: DSA is not an Easyjet base. As others have clearly stated.........
-There are no Easyjet employed ground staff
-If you take a flight from DSA your crew will be LPL based(supplemented by MAN)
-There isn't a crew room or other administrative means that are the fabric of an airline base.
-Take a look at this months inflight magazine. Easyjet Bases are indicated by a large DOT. Airports served by Easyjet but not a base are indicated by a small DOT. DSA has a small DOT. FACT!

[johnnychips]

Blimey, can't we just be grateful Easyjet is serving DSA rather than going into these pedantic arguments. :ugh:

[ben_keghead]

Im very grateful mate. Very grateful indeed

[flyzen]

EZY will be back on the LGW / NTE route
"Starting 14th July, 6x weekly (excl. Sun) but will be daily from 1st Aug. till September 5th"

[globetrotter79]

LGW-NTE? Fancy that...and with flyBe having just announced the route to start too!

Methinks it isn't going to be too long before some carrier or other begins to ask questions at EC level about whether EZY is, perhaps, 'abusing' its dominant position at LGW?

I'd love to see some figures - but am guessing that in terms of flights volume etc EZY at LGW is now bigger (in equivalent terms) than BA at LHR in terms of percentage total volume of weekly departures?

[dwlpl]

And?

I said "I dont consider" meaning it is my personal opinion....and I work there. And I hate this, "3rd busiest UK airport outside London" Why not include the london airports and say it is the 7th busiest UK airport?
And if you also look i mention other airports such as Bristol and Newcastle.
Like I say, just an opinion

Exactly it is your opinion, factually wrong but its your opinion.

As for London you did not mention London in your post and thats why I didnt include them.

[Charlie Roy]

LGW-NTE? Fancy that...and with flyBe having just announced the route to start too!

Bet CityJet aren't the happiest that not one but two airlines are now going to destroy their London to Nantes monopoly.

[ben_keghead]

@dwlpl

Not sure how my own personal opinion can be incorrect but hey. Like I say, I work at Liverpool airport and I dont consider it to be one of the main ones in the UK. I would of course like to see that change, but at the time, I, as do others who have agreed with my opinion, do not see it this way.

End of discussion on my part

[flyzen]

For the peak summer period (mid july to early sept) the London / Nantes route was really lacking of seats
... now with a daily EZY flight added, we are back to a normal offer on the route.
- AF/Cityjet on LCY route (mainly for business use)
- Flybe + EZY on LGW route

[bjones4]

Flights through to March 2011 are now available for purchase.

[Juliojordio]

Anybody know what they have planned for the Dsa aircraft over the winter? I see the routes are up for sale, no palma, prague and faro at a reduced frequency leaving gaps in the three rotations a day plan. Any insider knowledge outhere!?

[dwlpl]

Not sure how my own personal opinion can be incorrect but hey. Like I say, I work at Liverpool airport and I dont consider it to be one of the main ones in the UK. I would of course like to see that change, but at the time, I, as do others who have agreed with my opinion, do not see it this way.

End of discussion on my part

I find it disconcerting, as someone who lives in the city and being an EZY shareholder, that you dont now the pertinent information regarding the background details of the airport.

[HH6702]

Anything new from ncl for winter 10/11 ?

[ben_keghead]

End of discussion on my part

Im not discussing those details any more, i think that molehill has certainly been made into too much of a mountain already

Great news about the winter flights

[dwlpl]

Great news about the winter flights

What news is that then?

[Charlie Roy]

Flights through to March 2011 are now available for purchase.

Taking a random sample of routes, I don't find any scheduled beyond the end of October, so this only seems to be for a few bases / routes for the moment...

[ben_keghead]

I just checked a flight Im wanting to take from Liverpool in March 2011, and it seems to be available, however flights from Doncaster only available until 30/31st December 2010

[h&s]

Flights for the winter will be progressively released as always - be patient!

Just a quick question, I saw here (http://holidays.easyjet.com/FlightCheck/flightdepartures.aspx?lang=en) that some flights were canceled for tomorow from Luton. For example the morning flight to Belfast is canceled both today and tomorow!
Obviously not due to the ash cloud this time so just wondering if this is still due to Andy Harrison "brillant" new rostering system?
cheers

[david1994]

Just a quick question, I saw here (http://holidays.easyjet.com/FlightCheck/flightdepartures.aspx?lang=en) that some flights were canceled for tomorow from Luton. For example the morning flight to Belfast is canceled both today and tomorow!
Obviously not due to the ash cloud this time so just wondering if this is still due to Andy Harrison "brillant" new rostering system?
cheers

Yea the BFS one will always say that as it does not depart from there anymore it now departs from BHD :ok:

[h&s]

good to know thanks David - only the EDI canceled then, fair enough

[EZYA319]

HAHAHAHAHA!!!these Last few pages have been great 4 comedy value!!!!

[cjags]

Anything new from ncl for winter 10/11 ?


Nothing mentioned, usual rumour of a based 320 to operate a canaries route / PFO but again just rumour.

[Carnethy]

Can any one enlighten me as to why the Paphos flights from Gatwick were cancelled today? Can't have been ash as several charters operated the route OK. Had friends onboard and ready to taxi when they were informed the flight was cancelled.

[IB4138]

Do Easyjet still refund fares if a flight is delayed over 4 hours?

This mornings 06.45 MAN-AGP flight still on ground at Manchester, initial excuse being restrictions over Spain due to ash. However, other airlines managed to get away within circa an hour of schedule to Alicante and Malaga. Actual reason for the delay would appear to be that easy did not have crew available (within hours) for the original departure slot, although all their other flights departed.

Passengers sat on aircraft with a slot time of 11.30Z.

Not good!

[easyboy22]

Think you will find monarch ALC is still boarding and there AGP
has been canx. I'm sure there all doing what they can.
I'm sure the crews are been stretched with all the delays
all the airlines are having. Not exclusive to Easyjet.

[ben_keghead]

As far as I am aware, easyJet do not refund delayed flights.

If an aircraft has a slot of 1130, then this is because of ATC slot restrictions...nothing to do with easyJet.

In other easyJet news: easyJet have announced a £78.7m loss for the 6 months to March 2010, £50m better than the same period last year.

BBC News - Easyjet says ash disruption cost up to £75m (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/10106673.stm)

[IB4138]

Can't agree on this occasion. The Easy flight to ALC flew OK, as did the LPL AGP and ALC flights this morning. Does point to the MAN-AGP being short of crew and not able to get an available slot, as clearly there were slots this morning.

Flight has now been cancelled, 4 hours and 45 minutes ( note, just short of 5 hours) after scheduled departure time, passengers now being deplaned.

However, the cancelled flight despite showing on Easy's system for free transfer is not available in the booking system to do so and by delaying cancelation, have denied pax the opertunity to rebook onto tomorrows flight earlier, when there possibly were seats available for them....and until the booking systm is updated they can't.

Easy have clearly not worked to their pax advantage, but the Company's here.

[IB4138]

Two hours later, the Easy web site still won't allow transfer of the booking to tomorrows flight and that flight is now full, surprise surprise. Queue at ticket desk in MAN is hardly moving.

My D-I-L with a two year old child and a six month old child, is stuck in this mess, on her way back home. She has no milk left for the baby and very little money.

If anybody from Easy would care to PM me with any help to get them back PDQ, then please do so. No one seems to care.

However, severe questions need asking about Easy's behaviour at MAN today.

[jubilee]

Noticed on the Monarch site ,list of cancelled flights,Malaga included.
Also telephone numbers for refund or a form to download to claim refund.
Not looked at easy's site.
Is your D.I.L stranded or is their family to help her out.
Jubilee

[aidoair]

Flight has now been cancelled, 4 hours and 45 minutes ( note, just short of 5 hours) after scheduled departure time, passengers now being deplaned.

Notice how you say PAX deplaned. This would mean they boarded and by doing so the crew would have had to be there.

I can see peoples frustration but working for an airline at another airport I can assure you that any delays/cancellations today on flights using Spanish airspace are genuine. Our AGP was delayed 3 hours and our ALC by four hours. The PMI flights at most UK airports today got away within around an hour of scheduled departure time, most likely because it is easier to re-route this service straight over France without flying into northern Spanish airspace and having to add to much extra fuel that other flights will have needed to re-route.

[IB4138]

Have sent email to Harrison about this total shambles.

Menzies staff at Manchester totally unhelpful and down right rude, especially the so called Passenger Services Manager, who was wandering arround drinking coffee, making unhelpful comments and not assisting her staff at the ticket desk, who were under pressure.

Refreshment vouchers that some managed to obtain, but had to ask for, proved not to be accepted by the Costa Coffee outlet.

By the time D-I-L reached the ticket desk, no seats available till Friday, so she loses three days pay.

Fortunately she and the kids have gone back to her mothers, but it was assumed that she was a UK resident, so no offer of hotel or going on standby list for tomorrow or Thursday, as has been offered to Spanish nationals off the flight.

D-I-L confirmed that the captain had said the delay and the missed slot was down to crewing hours issue and therefore was not the "ash" at that stage, although it had become an issue once a new slot was requested.

Just why was it decided to penalise the AGP flight when it came to the crew shortage? It also appears a deliberate act to cancel the flight after 4 hours 45 minutes to avoid paying full refunds and providing free flights after 5 hours delay.

...and emails advising pax of the cancelation of the flight were received timed at 14.40, several hours after the actual cancelation, whilst pax were queueing to rebook flights. Not a clever move!

[ben_keghead]

Like i have said, easyJet do not give refunds for delayed flights! You pay for a flight to get you from A to B (MAN-AGP in this case), whether it is delayed or not, it does not matter. The only thing they do provide, is a Light Refreshment Voucher (LRV) per passenger after a certain number of hours. This is valued at £3/€4.50.

Companies do not cancel flight just because they want to. Crew obviously wasnt a problem if the plane was fully boarded.

[MancRy]

IB...... The timing and nature of the AGP means that it is very unlikely that crewing hours were the issue. Plus, if the flight was boarded, the crew were there and even with a severe delay, would still be in hours to operate. I am sure it was the ash but as with many pax, they like to think about sinister motives. Their probably was none.

As for the Menzies ground staff, I am not going to comment as clearly I wasn't there but as for hotels and vouchers.....................you only have to ask and explain your circumstances, they aren't mind readers. As for the Menzies manager, she is allowed a drink (and she was drinking it on the go.....i.e no break) and can you really say you know what her job entails?

Hope things get better for you soon.

[IB4138]

The plane was not boarded untill 08.30, with a depature that was scheduled for 06.45, more than two hours in arrears, so crewing would appear to have been the issue for a scheduled departure having been missed, as the captain said and not ash at that stage, nor would it have been had the flight departed on time. The ash became an issue because of the delayed departure, which led to the cancelation.

My D-I-L did tell the Menzies staff that she was a Spanish resident, but they assumed she had somewhere to go and made no enquiry as to her or the children's circumstances, which is simply not good enough.

As for the Passenger Services Manager, her exact words have been recorded and will be passed to Easyjet.

Just a catalogue of errors by Easy and their agents, not a comedy, compounded by a less than compasionate member of handling agent management, to top it all off.

...and bk, I suggest you look at the regulations in force for delays of over 5 hours and compensation payable, then you will realise why the flight was canceled at the 4 hours 45 minutes delayed point.

[mathers_wales_uk]

A crew roster is usually made well in advance of the flight date. An issue for short crewing could be the fact that some members not necessary all were out of hours (law by regulators not airlines). There may have been an issue where standby crew had either allready been used or due to disruption are either out of place or on rest days.

It looks like it is one of those situations however there is no excuse for the lack of customer service as you describe it.

CAA Denied Boarding, Cancellation and Delay: Passenger Rights

Assistant must be provided regardless pf whether the delay is outside the airline's control as follows.

Distance up to 1500km (Delay more than 2 hours) meals and refreshments in relation to waiting time. Two free telephone calls, emails, telexes or faxes.

Distance 1500-3500km (Delay more than 3 hours) meals and refreshments in relation to waiting time. Two free telephone calls, emails, telexes or faxes.

Distance over 3500km (Delay more than 4 hours) meals and refreshments in relation to waiting time. Two free telephone calls, emails, telexes or faxes.

All Flights (Delay more than 5 hours) meals and refreshments in relation to waiting time. Two free telephone calls, emails, telexes or faxes, plus reimbursement of ticket (if passenger decides not to travel)

All Flights (Overnight and more than 5 hours) Two free telephone calls, emails, telexes or faxes, plus reimbursement of ticket (if passenger decides not to travel) plus hotel accomodation and transfers.

[Falcon666]

Hi
Anybody in the know if Luton Flights to Paphos will operate for winter 2010/2011.
The reason i ask is several Luton routes seem to be dropped for the winter season-Nice , Turin , Krakow , Palma etc. but are bookable from other London Airports.
Is this still the continuing disagreement with LTN over fees!!!

[cesare.caldi]

When will be available the winter timetable for continental Europe base?

[Wizofoz]

Didn't Andy Harris also resign over this issue?

Can someone give the ten second edition of who wants to do what in terms of expantion at EZ?

Does Stelious want more/quicker, or less/slower expantion than the board?

[Montgolfier]

Stelios is on record as being highly critical of the siginificant fleet expansion in recent years, blaming Andy Harrison for perpetuating growth at the expense of share price:

Stelios outburst overshadows easyJet results | Business | The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/may/11/stelios-outburst-overshadows-easyjet-results)

Basically, Stelios doesn't see the point of having a large fleet and expanded route network if it doesn't expand his earnings.

[itwasme]

Here you go, a bit more detail on his beef with the board for you:

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/05/14/342001/haji-ioannou-bids-to-overturn-easyjet-expansion-strategy.html

[cesare.caldi]

Yesterday easyjet has cancelled my third flight from MXP within two months for off duty crew time when was inside finger before boarding. Now i ask full refund and 250€ compensation.

I'm a frequent flyer of Easyjet and i'm very disappointed but now it's not accettable this total no customer service, a lot of flights cancelled without reason and zero assistance to stranded pax. From now i chose others airline.

[racedo]

BBC News - Sir Stelios Haji-Ioannou plans Easyjet revolt (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/10117774.stm)

The ongoing fight between Stelios and Easyjet board goes on.

The problem he has now is that the attacks on the board strategy last year and exit of board members will not have enamoured him to City fund managers and those holding Institutional shareholdings. While the family shareholding at 38% ish is a good one there is a real danger that other shareholders do not back him so effectively negating any attempt at using the holding to influence the board.

Leading shareholder / original owner V Board / Later shareholders do not tend to work out in anybody's favour and hurt a company in the long run.

Ultimately I see Easyjet being taken private and delisted if Sir Stelios wins as experienced Airline hands at Senior level will not seek to work for Easyjet where they have to look over shoulder at someone's whim / ego.

Board uncertainty has no immediate impact on short term BUT in medium to long term will, decisions that need to be taken on investment / divestment take longer and longer where everybody fights their own position.

Its not a good position for Easyjet to be in.

[cesare.caldi]

If Stelios don't agree more with management please sell his stock and leave the company

[LGS6753]

If Stelios sold his entire (family) holding - 38% - the share price would collapse. That's a good reason why he doesn't.

[cesare.caldi]

Obviously not to sell all the stock together but step by step

[ReallyAnnoyed]

You can thank the operations director for the lack of crew to operate, Cesare. Cor. He thinks he brilliant himself though :rolleyes:

[cesare.caldi]

MXP is the largest Easyjet base in continental Europe, for me is not possible there are not a crew reserve available

[ReallyAnnoyed]

well, if you hire crews for 2 planes less than you have, then voila.

[cesare.caldi]

I can't believe Easyjet use this method

[one post only!]

Neither can those of us who work for them!!!!!! We keep trying to tell them........

[chadwicki]

Hello can anyone help shed light on the following info :-

Easyjet flight from MAN to MLA Sunday 30th May Approx 7:40 ..


Please could someone tell me the Flight number and equipment …


Thanks for any help ..

[DOOBIE]

EZY1997 Malta 0740 A320

[chadwicki]

Thanks for the quick replie Doobie ....

[BleadonHell]

Try being a passenger at Bristol this winter past, I had 3 cancellations because of shortage of flight crew. I quote from a guy from Menzies " We just don't have the crew to support the operation today"

[toledoashley]

Somebody posted on another site that EZY sold the Go brand last year. Does anyone know who it was sold to?

[Mr A Tis]

2 - 3 flights a day are being cancelled from Liverpool, don't know the reasons, looks like it could be some consolidation on multiple flights. (?)

[david1994]

Does anyone know if BFS will get an A320 based? Would make good money on Larnaca / Paphos or Turkey :ok:

[ben_keghead]

Just cos a base get A320s it doesnt mean than it does longer routes...

Could be used to provide extra capacity on the busier routes throughout the year

[MUFC_fan]

The A319 has a better range than the A320 so assuming the bigger aircraft increases the number of available destinations is incorrect.

[boquera]

don't easys 319s have shorter range due to a lack of centre fuel tank so maybe the base of a 320 will be for longer routes but could be used for increased capacity as well on existing services

[ben_keghead]

easys A319s have a weight limitation of 66 Tonnes, some have a restriction of just 64 Tonnes, hence limiting the range....

[Double Hydco]

All the EZY 319's have centre tank's and can uplift around 18,000 kg of fuel total.

As b_k say's, it usually a takeoff weight limitation. However, I think there are some in the fleet that have a 68t limitation.

DH

[Zippy Monster]

Indeed there are; in fact across the fleet of A319s there are aircraft certified at 62, 64, 66 and 68t. Also not all of the A320s are certified to the manufacturer's MTOW; off the top of my head, some are 77t, some are 73.5t and I think there's some with a different limit.

Chadwicki, if you're interested, at the moment you're on G-EZTN.

[dwlpl]

Paul Simmons, easyJet’s UK Regional General Manager has just said on the Liverpool Airport Webinar answering a question regarding DSA and a route to Tenerife, that 'they need the A320 but we operate the A319 out of DSA'.

[kriskross]

I keep answering this question about range on the 319 and 320, but here goes again. The 319s have 22k engines and the 320s have 27k engines, yet the APS weights of the 319 is only about a tonne and a half less than the 320 due to the different centre fuselage section with the 2 overwings.

The reason therefore that the 320 does the longer routes is the take off performance, usually at the other end but occasionally out of UK. I did the sums for a 66k and 68k 319 on a LPL-TFS-LPL, and with a typical Canaries pax mix and all the holiday baggage it was very marginal due to performance limited take off weight - the 320 with its extra thrust eats it.

The 320 could be a bit limited even from MAN going to SSH with all the scuba gear, but seems to have gone OK so far, the 321, those left, are better on this due to even more power, but are all at LGW.

[ReallyAnnoyed]

62 tonnes? I have never flown one of those :eek:

[Zippy Monster]

HB-JZG, -H, -I and -J are 62t :ok:

[EI-BUD]

Does anyone know why 3 flights this evening have been cancelled from BFS by Easyjet?

EZY452Bristol 19:40-CANCELLED
EZY266London Stansted 19:55-CANCELLED
EZY614Liverpool 20:30-CANCELLED

Seems unusual for a Sunday evening.

EI-BUD

[cesare.caldi]

Nowadays cancellation of flights are normal across all Easyjet network due to shortage of crew in several base

[tigger2k8]

you still going on about crew shortages?

G-EZIM went tech this morning, and still is it was due to take out the BCN flight, which did eventually go, but with a delay of approx 6 hours on a different aircraft, the schedule was changed for the day with other aircraft taking out different flights, unfortunately the 3 cancelled flights couldn't be performed as there was no available aircraft for them

[ReallyAnnoyed]

There is a severe crew shortage and it will remain so over the entire summer. But hey, you may get to fly on a 767 as we have one of those subchartered for the entire summer :E

[cesare.caldi]

What routes will be operated by 767?

[frfly]

Im amazed that an airline the size of easyJet and with a reputation to uphold would be careless enough to release a schedule and not recruit enough crew to operate it.

[cesare.caldi]

For me it's incredible, but it's the sad reality

[Seljuk22]

There were/are rumours about EZY open a base at BCN but now FR will do. Anything new about EZY will open a base at BCN?
Anyone knows which airports could become a base in the near future?

[A319-100]

My money's on Lisbon :ok:

[IB4138]

Do not rule out AGP.

[racedo]

Given the current issues within Easyjet at board level will it impact on opening new bases ?

There is lots of stuff on it but aside from what I posted on here from Sunday Times nobody seems to be commenting on it.

[davidjohnson6]

In most organisations, a boardroom row usually leads to internal stagnation and internal politicking comes to the fore.

[racedo]

DJ

That is my viewpoint as well and sadly its what is happening in Easyjet.

Too many B.S.Ds. preserving power positions and status does nobody any good least of all the employees.

[EI-BUD]

According to Belfast Airport Website (BFS) Easyjet have an arrival tomorrow morning Monday at 0855 from Krakow.
This looks like a charter, the flight number is EZY9784

There doesnt seem to be a corresponding flight going out to Krakow, does anybody know where this aircraft will be originating?

EI-BUD

[True Blue]

Following on from the previous post, what is happening to easyjet? At Bfs this weekend, there were flights cancelled yesterday to Lgw, today to Lpl and I see again to lpl tomorrow. I am also aware that a number of flights have been cancelled at LGW today. This rate of cancellations does not inspire confidence and I am a frequent Ezy user. I know that someone will come on here and quote the cancellation % and it may be low, but my perception is that Ezy are more prone to this action than other carriers. A lot of people will have their plans badly disrupted just today, you can't keep on doing that before it becomes a problem. Remember, the eventual downfall of most large companies started with one small bad decision that grew.

True Blue

[david1994]

According to Belfast Airport Website (BFS) Easyjet have an arrival tomorrow morning Monday at 0855 from Krakow.
This looks like a charter, the flight number is EZY9784

There doesnt seem to be a corresponding flight going out to Krakow, does anybody know where this aircraft will be originating?

EI-BUD

Todays flight to Krakow (Sunday), went tech while on turn around in Krakow so it is put back until tomorrow.

regards

[beauport potato man]

True Blue,

Simply put, EZY don't have enough crew - infact what is probably more true is that EZY won't pay for more crew.
Command list is chock-a-block with very experienced SF/O's and there are plenty of cadets to fill the RHS but they won't promote or recruit on sensible terms.

Things may change when Ms McCall arrives but with Cor still in place I doubt it.

[Binder]

Cor has a Masters degree in Organisational Science,

Says it all really.

Binder

[Mr A Tis]

Well there does appear to be up to 3 cancellations a day from the Liverpool schedules over recent weeks.
This is certainly affecting my decision on future bookings, usually one of the Paris and/or Barcelona rotations + AN other (BFS today).
They do need to explain why so many flights are cancelled on what is now a regular basis or people will just drift away.
Shame as I like the Easy product.

[windshear12]

Isnt it bizarre that an airline with all the potential of easyjet has had so many bad decisions made by a buisiness man that by all accounts would have been sacked for poor performance a long time ago! The silent assasin that is Cor. Id like to see that mans appraisal. For what can this man be commended on?

You take a successful airline and dwindle the staff numbers to the point where there is no stby cover and cancell flights on a daily basis due to this issue while continuing in your role? Thats a dream job eh! Mean while Stelios behaves like a spoilt brat throwing his props out of the pram at every available opportunity. Such a shame for an airline that should be expanding and taking advantage of these difficult times.

A great airline with great staff......ran by a bunch of buffoons( I apologise to any buffoons inadverdantly affected).

[Caudillo]

You take a successful airline and dwindle the staff numbers to the point where there is no stby cover and cancell flights on a daily basis due to this issue while continuing in your role?

Yes you do, and to be fair I think I can understand why they do it. There's a couple of reasons.

If you keep it at a certain low-ish level you'll inconvenience a few hundred or thousand people. They may chunter about how they'll "never fly with [airline, usually BA] again", but the majority do. Remember the news footage of any past BA strike or summer of chaos and you'll know what I mean. As long as it's not at an outrageous level - ie, like hospital patients on trolleys in corridors - you won't get any real widespread public perception of a problem. Do it on routes where you've got a monopoly and you've nailed them.

So why do it? It's an accounting trick, although not necessarily good business sense.

A key business metric is revenue, and in airlines forward booking percentages. To get your reward you need to keep this growing compared to the same period on the previous year.

Likewise, costs. You want to keep these low. And you don't want this to grow every year.

So what do you do? Pitch it at the right level, and undercrew but not enough to piss enough passengers off. You book their revenue and forward booking numbers, you keep your costs low - and the money you have to splash out cleaning up after your cancellations? Ah, that goes in the "extraordinary non-recurring" section. Doesn't matter that they are daily costs at an undercrewed airline, the trends on revenue and cost are the ones that are paid attention.

Mean while Stelios behaves like a spoilt brat throwing his props out of the pram at every available opportunity. Such a shame for an airline that should be expanding and taking advantage of these difficult times.


FWIW, Stelios is behaving entirely reasonably. Easyjet are allegedly exceeding the limits of what they've paid for - the lease of the Easy brand with 75% of activity to be derived from flying. Stelios has many of his own interests under the easy brand, and doesn't want the Easyjet airline company overstepping into his patch. Very simple. And when you consider he owns what, 40-odd percent of a company capitalised at a few hundred million pounds, he can probably be forgiven for wanting to see some income from it - like a dividend, or at worst some serious capital growth, neither of which have been forthcoming. What a crybaby eh?

[rapidman47]

Liverpool to get its ninth or is it tenth Easyjet based aircraft tomorrow Friday An A319 delv direct from factory

[Thad Jarvis]

so LPL are getting another 319 yet they have two regular subs due lack of crew. Must be bringing it up so the engineers can polish it because there's nobody to fly it :rolleyes:

[easyboy22]

Easyjet is promising to unveil an “exciting technological breakthrough” to end large-scale disruption to airline passengers in the future.

The airline has called a press conference on Friday morning to reveal the innovation in light of major disruption caused by the Icelandic volcanic ash cloud.

The press conference will be attended by Easyjet CEO Andy Harrison and Andrew Haines, CEO of the Civil Aviation Authority.

See Travelmole on Friday for more details.

[multiflight123]

Easyjet is considering to operate its Orly-Berlin route only twice a day in winter instead of three times. The nascent Orly Slot is to be used for a daily service to a new destination in Germany.
I'm not sure which airport will be operated, rumours say Dresden. Although this wouldnt make sense, as AF operates to Leipzig. Maybe Hamburg or Munich, who knows?

[jethro15]

But hey, you may get to fly on a 767 as we have one of those subchartered for the entire summer

Don't you mean a 757 for three months?

[candj]

Hi, any one know how the easyJet loads are like out of DSA,any new routes planed or any chance thay could make this a new bace??

[easyboy22]

Who's 757 is it going to be.

[dwlpl]

Air Finlands and supposedly fly ex LPL.

[easyboy22]

Dwlpl cheers for quick reply.

[ben_keghead]

The new A319 is coming tomorrow (4th June)

XBH-LPL G-EZFV Dep: 1300Z Arr 1500Z

[jethro15]

Air Finlands and supposedly fly ex LPL

Not Titan??

[cesare.caldi]

Easyjet new routes on sale:

Paris, Charles De Gaulle (CDG) (http://www.theairdb.com/airport/CDG.html) to Brest, Guipavas (BES) (http://www.theairdb.com/airport/BES.html)
Paris, Charles De Gaulle (CDG) (http://www.theairdb.com/airport/CDG.html) to Copenhagen, Kastrup (CPH) (http://www.theairdb.com/airport/CPH.html)
Gothenburg, Landvetter (GOT) (http://www.theairdb.com/airport/GOT.html) to London, Gatwick (LGW) (http://www.theairdb.com/airport/LGW.html)
Toulouse, Blagnac (TLS) (http://www.theairdb.com/airport/TLS.html) to Rome, Leonardo Da Vinci (Fiumicino) (FCO) (http://www.theairdb.com/airport/FCO.html)
Toulouse, Blagnac (TLS) (http://www.theairdb.com/airport/TLS.html) to Lisbon, Portela (LIS) (http://www.theairdb.com/airport/LIS.html)

[dwlpl]

Not according to this North West Air News - Easy757 (http://derbosoft.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=eggpmovements&action=display&thread=3291)

[cesare.caldi]

Any rumors about possible new route from MXP?

[Seljuk22]

News...? Just as almost every year EZY applied for slots for FRA-FCO 13/7, FRA-LGW 12/7, MUC-MXP 14/7, MUC-CDG 14/7

[ben_keghead]

EasyJet to trial volcanic ash technology
BBC News - Easyjet to trial volcanic ash detection system (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/10234553.stm)

[traveller42]

There have been delays of 2-3 hours between GVA and LGW with EasyJet for at least the last 3 days and they're continuing this morning. Does anyone know what's going on?
Other carriers between London and Geneva aren't delayed.

[The Flying Cokeman]

Today I believe it was due to tech reason as I met the crew in our crew room this morning. All GVA crew were put on airport sby instead until 1300.

[dwlpl]

Air Finlands and supposedly fly ex LPL

Now due six days earlier than expected on the 11th.

[sam1993]

EasyJet. The situation regarding summer leases is now a little clearer. The airline will take an Astraeus B752, currently expected to be G-OJIB (24292), from 14/6 to 31/8 & Titan B763 G-POWD (30847) from early July. Both aircraft will be based at Gatwick & operate routes normally flown by A321s. Taken from this website: GATWICK ROUNDUP 05-06-10 - UK & N.Ireland - Aircraft Movements and Sightings - Aviation Forums - Flightglobal Airspace (http://www.flightglobal.com/airspace/forums/gatwick-roundup-05-06-10-49367.aspx)

[easyJet A321]

Why are the 757 and 767 being used to cover for A321's? Are they leaving during the summer period? Having just worked out where all the A320's are I am amazed that there are now 7 A320's at ORY!! I'm pretty sure when I checked a few months ago there were only around 3 or2?

Am I right in thinking this is where the A320's are based:
LGW - 8 EZY Spec & 2 GB Spec (1 going to GLA from LGW)
ORY - 7
MAN - 3
LTN - 2
LPL - 1
BRS - 1
GVA - 1 (EZS).

I'm not sure whether I have just missed it but has there been no official announcement from EZY about their order for 10 X A320's? I'm guessing 6 of these will be going straight to LGW when they arrive to replace the ex GB A320's and A321's? From the above list. Anyone know where the others are due to go?

Oh yeah, one last thing when are the new routes to be announced?
I only know of MAN - AMS, I hope there's more new routes for the northern airports!

[ben_keghead]

They are coming because of crew shortages. And seeing as the A321s need more crew to operate them then it is sensible.

And since when did EZY announce MAN-AMS?

[jasond4]

Rumors suggest that EZY are switching DSA ops to MAN from January.

[toledoashley]

MAN-AMS is highly rumoured as they have been allocated the slots for it, although as we have seen in the past they dont have to use them!! There is also news on the Flight Global forum that EZY are looking at more routes out of Gatwick for the winter season over and above the Gothenburg already announced. I would imagine that these would be a mix of Short Haul ski? and Longer Haul leisure (maybe Luxor/Taba/Banjul)?

[easyJet A321]

Apparenty its loaded onto the internal system too? Yeah I can imagine a few more routes to Egypt when the new A320's arrive or maybe for W10 to fill the gaps in where I'm guessing there will be some reductions in frequencies from S10.

[Carnethy]

What about the rumoured new routes at EDI? I'd heard PFO and 2 or 3 others were due to be announced soon but still no word. With the recent collapse of GSM, EZY would do well to "get in there quick" before FR monopolise EDI!

[Random Flyer]

What about the rumoured new routes at EDI? I'd heard PFO and 2 or 3 others were due to be announced soon but still no word. With the recent collapse of GSM, EZY would do well to "get in there quick" before FR monopolise EDI!


With GLA now confirmed for an easy A320, I think that shows the likes of PFO, SSH etc will operate from GLA, not EDI. Hardly surprising tbh. :)

[MancRy]

The A320 wouldn't have the legs for GLA-SSH. I think they might even struggle on certain MAN-SSH sectors in the Winter.

[easyJet A321]

So according to Jethros LPL are to have a B752 based at LPL from 11th June - End of Summer season which will be leased from Air Finland. What is this actually needed for? Is the A320 going somewhere else? This could tie in with the one going to GLA?

[Albert Hall]

The wet-leases are being brought in not to add extra capacity but to cover up for the unholy mess which continues to be easyJet's crewing situation. Liverpool and Gatwick are two of the bases which would be seeing even worse levels of flight cancellations for crew shortages if it were not for the fact that the wet-leases are arriving shortly. It is a simple sign that the airline is now so large that it is running the management team instead of vice versa.

[PAPI-74]

Maybe they will take on real pilots and reduce the amount of cadets.

[nef]

I believe an A320 is due to be switched in to GLA over the peak summer. Afaik, I don't think there's been any confirmation that an A320 will be present permanantly, either as a new extra aircraft or as a swop for an A319.