EasyJet - 4

[HeartyMeatballs]

British Airways have a worse policy at LHR where you must enter security at -35, or you're off and it's strictly enforced. It's all to help with OTP and has been a BA policy since day one of T5. Where's the outrage at BA's policy? Or can you easyBashers overlook this?

[davidjohnson6]

Heathrow T5 has satellite terminals requiring a transit. Gatwick does not.
BA had terrible punctuality pre T5, Easyjet does not
BA at LHR had a high number of people travelling long haul with checked in luggage - which needs to be offloaded causing further delay. Easyjet flies only short/medium haul and has a large number of people without luggage who could run from security to a gate (or would like to try) given a chance.

I don't like Heathrow's policy. Easyjet are being too blunt in their application of the policy - at the very least make an allowance for times when a flight is delayed and a passenger can reasonably make it to the gate for when the gate will actually close rather than when it was meant to close.

[Binder]

RAT

Captain has little or no discretion to accept late pax at the gate. This was devolved to the Dispatcher some years ago :(

If you like tea & biscuits with your boss then just try pulling rank, use your common sense and push back one minute late.

Sad but true......

[Mr A Tis]

Has there been a recent change in customer "service" managment at easyJet?

[JordanPalf]

The rule of 30 minutes applies at MAN, however it is slightly longer and closes 40 Minutes before. Then no passenger can be accepted, this can not be checked with dispatch either. You are right in saying passenger doesn't get refund, instead must pay £80 rescue fee.

[paully]

Mr A Tis I think you are right. Last month I had a run in with their Swissport staff at Liverpool regarding cabin baggage size, long story, but was told by the cabin crew that Easyjet have started to incentivize ground staff when they get to charge customers £40 to put hand luggage in the hold.

I have e mailed the `Caroline` e mail addy that she has had published in the on board magazine asking if this is true. To date, despite jogs, no reply. I can but presume therefore that this is true.

You`d think they might have learnt from O`Leary`s experience doing this, but it seems Easy are stuck in reverse :rolleyes: or could it just be that they have so many more layers of management than Ryanair ??

[HeartyMeatballs]

If your bag doesn't fit in the guages then it's too big as the guages are actually larger that the allowed bag. So if it fits it's free. If it doesn't then you'll need to pay for it as it's definitely too big. Incentives or not, if the bag is too big then you're not entitled to carry it on for free so I don't see any reasonable grounds for a complaint.

If you're talking about offloads due to too many bags, then there is no charge for this so I can't imagine there's any incentive.

[strawberry Ribena]

Can I guess you used the line "well it fit last time"?

[paully]

Hearty and Ribena.

Just what I expected, firing blind and totally missing the point.I said it was a long story and I`m not going to elaborate other than the bag went into the frame and onto the plane..The point is that such incentivisation, among low paid staff, is not what a company like Easyjet should be encouraging.

Ryanair stopped it and for good reason.

[strawberry Ribena]

I do apologise. You are right, the more they charge their monthly bonus increases.

We used to receive gift vouchers on the amount of things we charged for.

[HeartyMeatballs]

Perhaps I didn't make my feelings clear. I they're charging incentives then that is their business. I very much doubt this is a easyJet policy but rather a local policy set up by the handler.

If someone does get charged however it is because their bag is too big. If I have to cram everything into one bag and pack cafefully, then why should someone else be allowed to bring their oversize bag onboard? It's not real fair is it?

[T250]

I'm sure you guys would be just as annoyed to be sitting at departure time waiting for late passengers, just the type like you who arrogantly think they know everything and can make it to the gate just on time.

Just on time is not good enough. In all other modes of transport trains or buses, if you aren't there before the departure time then you'll likely not make the service. Same should and is looking like will apply in this new system, you can't turn up just on time and hope for the best.

This policy is also likely to have been introduced based on cost. The ground handling company at LGW is Menzies Aviation who have recently introduced an enormous soulless, windowless and fully automated check in area at Gatwick. This new policy seems more of a drive to reduce further staff costs. There is a lot of labour involved in escorting late/denied/offloaded passengers through arrivals, immigration and reclaim back to landside and to rebook their flights.

[FRatSTN]

It does seem a bit unfair to offload passengers though who could potentially have made the flight. Reality is, EZY, or no other airline for that matter delays a flight for stragglers. What difference does it make for those who were on-time? They are already on the plane ready to go. It will piss off more people than it will ever please.

What's definitely unfair about EZY's policy is that they only allow their Plus Cardholders and those who have paid for extra legroom seats to take a second carry-on bag... and they are permitted to board the aircraft first.

So everyone else faces the risk of their one and only cabin bag going in the hold.

A ruthless policy blatantly focused on retention of higher yielding customers whilst discriminating your typical flyer who only travels once or twice a year on a low budget. Explain to me how that one is fair!?

[HeartyMeatballs]

A ruthless policy blatantly focuses on retention of higher yielding customers?

Do you feel the same way about airlines with a biz class who allow priority boarding, more than one bag, bigger seats (or 3 seats between 2 people), or 'free' catering or the use of the lounge? Why shouldn't those who pay the most get treated the best or be provided the better services?

Why on earth should these high yielding passengers not be treated better? These are the people who make lots of money for you, year round. The once a year beach crowd are great, but when Chardonnay and Bradley aren't flying in winter because they're saving for Christmas, it's the business woman off to the mainland to strike a deal or meet clients face to face who pays the fuel bill in the quiet winter months.

[FRatSTN]

Do you feel the same way about airlines with a biz class who allow priority boarding, more than one bag, bigger seats (or 3 seats between 2 people), or 'free' catering or the use of the lounge?

No because it's not remotely the same. Business class passengers pay for a business class service, a different product entirely.

EZY don't have business class service. It's an economy class ticket and an economy class plane. Yes they offer FLEXI fare which entails some of the extra services that attract business travelers but it's still, like everyone else, an economy class ticket.

The thing I personally have an issue with is how the policy is instigated in a way where it almost discriminates or is at the expense of your typical everyday passenger or family.

[HeartyMeatballs]

Ok, well if I want the business class service I can pay 3/4 times the economy class ticket prices and get the business class service.

If I want to get the second bag on easyJet I can pay from £8.99 and get it.

Ether way if I want something I can get it through paying.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with those who make the airline the most money being treated better. It's no different to any other airline, a train, a ferry, cruise line or hotel. Do you boycott hotels with executive floors?

It's better than false promises that other airlines make (we won't mention any names though FRatSTN) who allow two bags onboard. Yes, you're allowed to carry on two bags, but what they don't mention is that half of them are offloaded at the gate and all you'll be left with is your small additional item as it's the large bags that are always offloaded.

[FRatSTN]

HeartyMeatballs

I still don't think you're getting the point entirely.

EZY do not offer a priority boarding option you can pay extra for, like some other airlines do. The cheapest way of doing that is through paying for seats. For a family or larger group that becomes expensive.

Lets now not pretend we don't know which other airline you are referring to and allow me to ask you to explain what on Earth you mean by false promises?

The policy for that unnamed airline is clearly stated as each passenger is entitled to bring 2 carry-on bags free of charge however only 90 large bags can travel in the cabin. No false promises there, and at least I can guarantee the second bag to put essential belongings into... unlike EZY who will take the one and only bag from the last passengers while allowing others on first with two!

[HeartyMeatballs]

Ok so half of the 737-800 could get their one and only bag taken off them. Let's face it the second bag is limited to ladies handbags or laptop bags (who even has these nowadays?). So unless you have a handbag, you've got 99 pax who are getting their bag offloaded and have nothing to carry onboard.

EZY have a matrix to work out how many bags to offload depending on load and checked baggage. It doesn't just arbitrarily snatch up to 99 people's bags from them and it's certainly never anywhere near half of the aircraft.

I did just do a dummy booking. Although I did notice it was £80 return for a standard size bag on a 55 minute flight, I did not see any clearly stated mention that I have less than a 50% chance of actually getting my roll on onboard.

Families are pre boarded and two free items associated with child care can be carried feel of charge.

[paully]

The second small bag on Ryanair is actually 35 x 20 x 20 or if you work in old money its just under 14inch x 8inch x 8inch. Quite a decent size and reasonably priced on e bay..Fit quite a lot of stuff in it too and it goes free :ok:

[SWBKCB]

There's absolutely nothing wrong with those who make the airline the most money being treated better.

No easyJet fan (although I did speak to somebody from Customer Services yesterday - they do exist!), but HMB is right on this one.

[BFS BHD]

Is G-EZPG A319 still flying? FR24 hasn't recorded any movements from it.

[FullyFullyReady]

To Lufthansa Technik in MLA on the 16th, due to return to service on the 8th.

[TBSC]

The Chief Flight Operations Officer of Wizz Air will be the new chief pilot of Easy.

[alasdair1]

Hi All,
Do easyjet have their summer 17 contracts signed yet if so will they be continuing with EDI TO BJV in 2017
Very popular again this year on a Wed / Sat schedule is this set to continue?
This is due to work holiday diary is now open and dates are filling up and we cannot wait till sept to put them in and with Ezy the only opp from scotland if they are opperating makes it very difficult.

Also which a/c have the 186 config I am aware PI,PJ have been put into the new config anyone know the others?
ALASDAIR

[davidjohnson6]

Every time I fly Easyjet, shortly after boarding is complete there is some introductory blurb from the cabin manager which includes 'we would like to extend a special welcome to our easyjetplus card holders'.

Most major airlines with a loyalty scheme also have something in the introductory script referencing frequent fliers.

What I find curious is that while the Easyjet script encourages customers to join those who pay for the 'give me special treatment' card, there is no mention of the frequent fliers who are presumably all members of Flight Club. The in-flight magazine encourages sales of 1-year Plus cards but makes no mention of Flight Club. The website has a section on Flight Club but it's hidden away.

All of this makes me think Easyjet are trying to keep Flight Club very much invisible to non members - ie keep an invitation only kudos. Is this a deliberate long term strategy or are the marketing people still just trying to let Flight Club bed in properly before the publicising begins ?

I guess I'm not sure I understand the overall marketing strategy. Frequent customers get special benefits - but nothing is done to encourage non members to give more business to Easyjet and potentially gain those benefits. Thus someone who flew 15 sectors last year would not necessarily know that flying 5 more sectors with Easyjet rather than (for example BA) would get something for it.

Anyone out there with an insight into Easyjet's FF strategy care to comment ?

[rod_1986]

Come on, you know what the first rule of Flight Club is....

:cool:

[easydan319]

New routes for Winter:

Basel - Funchal
Berlin - La Palma, Marseille and Zurich
Bristol - Turin and Gran Canaria
Geneva - Fuerteventura, Inverness and Munich
London Gatwick - La Palma
London Luton - Turin, Tenerife, Lanzarote and Lyon
London Southend - Gran Canaria
Lyon - Luxembourg, Stockholm, and Vienna
Manchester - Gran Canaria and Turin
Newcastle - Berlin and Gran Canaria
Paris CDG - Pristina
Amsterdam - Zurich

[LAX_LHR]

Also Gatwick to Turin.

[canberra97]

Gatwick to Turin is not a 'new' route as it's been a seasonal route for several years now mainly tapping into the winter ski season.

[Jet2_738]

EasyJet Opens Talks Over Post-Brexit HQ Move (http://news.sky.com/story/1720169/easyjet-opens-talks-over-post-brexit-hq-move)

McCalls on Sky again... Do we see any fruition here or not? :rolleyes:

[paully]

She might be taken more serious if she went on Sky and apologised for the lousy customer service that they seem to indulge in these days..I do believe they have had to make a profit warning as well..might be due to previous loyal customers defecting.

[BigFrank]

I saw one basic report by Sky repeated several times today to the effect that easyJet are negotiating with several different members of the rump-27 EU for an AOC which will allow it to continue with its current access to the whole of the current EU.

And more recently an update, the latter from an expert business correspondent (sic) Ian King (I think) intimating that the process involved was essentially little more burdensome than seeking a postal box as an address in an obliging friendly jurisdiction (my metaphor but a fair representation of his tone, I affirm.) To be fair he did intimate that a handful of legal types would need to be stationed at this PO Box.

I wonder if Boris has had a hand in writing this post-Brexit fairy tale version of life?

[Fairdealfrank]

I saw one basic report by Sky repeated several times today to the effect that easyJet are negotiating with several different members of the rump-27 EU for an AOC which will allow it to continue with its current access to the whole of the current EU.

And more recently an update, the latter from an expert business correspondent (sic) Ian King (I think) intimating that the process involved was essentially little more burdensome than seeking a postal box as an address in an obliging friendly jurisdiction (my metaphor but a fair representation of his tone, I affirm.) To be fair he did intimate that a handful of legal types would need to be stationed at this PO Box.

I wonder if Boris has had a hand in writing this post-Brexit fairy tale version of life? (http://news.sky.com/story/1720169/easyjet-opens-talks-over-post-brexit-hq-move)


Simplest way: U2 rents a room in FR's HQ at DUB and has an Irish AOC, FR rents a room in U2's HQ at LTN and has a UK AOC.

Job done.

[toledoashley]

I know W6 have set up AOC's in different countries (Hungary, Bulgaria & Ukraine?), as well as DY, but EZY buy an airline to get an AOC? Maybe someone like Volotea?

[Flightrider]

Volotea could be a very good fit. As well as a Spanish AOC, there would be a lot of existing dots around the easyJet network joined by adding the Volotea routes. They are also replacing their 717s with A319s and so it would be a good outlet for retiring easyJet A319s from the core operation.

[paully]

Don't know if anyone has seen it, but there is a 'Boycott Easyjet' thread running on Facebook at the moment.Its attracting quite some attention.The source of the protest is mainly to do with their proposal to move the HQ to outside the UK.. nevertheless quite a lot of comments are coming from disgruntled ex customers...still I have no doubt it will be dealt with by their ' customer service's and ignored as usual...might be of interest to some though .

[Evanelpus]

Hang on a mo, I thought Easy were only proposing to move their legal part of the operation outside the UK?

Which one of us is talking bollicks?

[paully]

Not me old chap, merely reporting what is being said elsewhere.... can't speak for you though

[Brigantee]

You could not make it up , Eighty percent of business warned that if people did vote to leave the EU this would have a serious impact on UK investement jobs ETC ,

People did decide to go down the leave route and now because a company may have to relocate to protect its interests in the brave new world there are boycotts and howls of protest

We had better get used used to it , Its only bee a week and already Siemens and Ford are talking about cutting UK investment , Interesting times ahead methinks especially when the good ole british public eventually realise boris and co have had them over royally and those dreadfull migrants are still going to be with us and the NHS wont get those promised millions.

[Ametyst1]

Ford, don't make me laugh! They have been cutting UK investment for years. Just ask the good people of Dagenham, Liverpool, Llanelli, Southampton and West Bromwich.

[RAT 5]

and those dreadfull migrants are still going to be with us and the NHS wont get those promised millions.

Do you mean all those dreadful migrants that keep the NHS going; or some other dreadful unwashed population?

[adfly]

RAT 5 - I sense a little sarcasm in the post you quoted!

[compton3bravo]

With regard to the boycott easyJet thread on Facebook it just goes to show how thick some people are. I am sure many people who voted to leave the EU expected the UK to close its borders to EU nationals on Friday!

[ATNotts]

With regard to the boycott easyJet thread on Facebook it just goes to show how thick some people are. I am sure many people who voted to leave the EU expected the UK to close its borders to EU nationals on Friday!
No thicker than the one who gave them the vote on EU in the first place!

[Brigantee]

Speaking of thickos ive just watched a depressing bit of TV where a resident of some grim council estate in the north east who admittited he had not voted for thirty years was asked what was his reason for voting out to which he replied "so we can get rid of them migrants and we can build factories again without them germans stopping us

If it wasnt so serious it might be funny
.

[Shed-on-a-Pole]

Can we get back to discussing EasyJet on this thread please. This is not the appropriate venue for bitter losers to abuse the 17.4 million people who voted 'leave' for a variety of reasons. The vast majority of them are NOT racists and their democratic mandate must be respected. 'Remain' did not have a monopoly on sound arguments. There was a significant number of poorly informed voters on both sides because the campaign was a lamentable tissue of lies and exaggeration across the spectrum. The result is now in. Let's move on.

[Brigantee]

Given the negative effect leaving the EU will have on those employed by easy jet and many other carriers based in the UK its very pertinent .....,So kindly wind your neck in

[Ametyst1]

Who said Brexit would be negative to the easyJet employees?

[Shed-on-a-Pole]

Given the negative effect leaving the EU will have on those employed by easy jet

Your posting was a tasteless rant totally unrelated to the topic of EasyJet. That's the point. This thread is for EasyJet discussion, not for airing your personal prejudice against residents of NE housing estates.

[easyflyer83]

Nevertheless, Brexit is/will have an impact on easyJet due to the nature of the business. Within context, I don't see the harm in discussing the issue.

[Shed-on-a-Pole]

Discussing Brexit's effect on EasyJet is absolutely relevant, agreed. It is the type of stuff in posts 4294 & 4295 which has no place in this discussion.

[Mr A Tis]

Brexit will of course have an impact on companies like easyJet. It has already taken up legal time and costs just to assess the options before it. The chances are it will either obtain an AOC in another EU country or aquire another carrier based in the EU.
However the truth is nobody knows, because we do not know what the outcome will be in terms of European aviation agreements. Everything at this stage is a guess.
For me, a bigger worry at easyJet is the poor customer services department at the airline which stands to lose more customers at a time when it's short term costs may be on the increase due to the Brexit issue. It is about time some resource was allocated to resolve customer service issues.
As has already been stated, I don't think the calibre of those that called for the vote, or those that exercised that right, are relevent to this thread.

[paully]

Well said Shed and Mr A Tis..I heartily concur:D

[LTNman]

The word from Luton is that easyet will be borrowing a Bombardier C-series from the manufacture as early as next week. I guess we will have to wait and see if the rumour is true or not.

[HeartyMeatballs]

Really? Operated by who? There's only one or two operating in Europe working for Swiss? And who will crew them? If it's to help with capacity then it would make more sense to just wet lease in and they already have an agreement in for this.

I do not think it true. The only reason it was previously mentioned was to negotiate with Airbus - 'give us a discount, or we're to Bombardier'.

[LTNman]

It might well be a false rumour but I am just sharing it in case it is true so I can claim a world exclusive.

[pabely]

C-Series today LTNman?

[Falcon666]

On approach to 26 as I write.
Probably a demo, unless??

[HeartyMeatballs]

Could it not be for Monarch or TUI or even a private operator. I can't see EZY using them when the fleet is moving toward a single A320 186Y operation. It was only a few years back that they ditched the 149Y 737700s so it wouldn't make sense to bring in CSeries subfleet. Again I think iit was EZY it would be to keep airbus on their toes and offering them more discounts or better terms.

Thomson is 189Y 737800 on the shirt haul and the EJets are already in the group so I can't see it being them. Monarch - well who knows. Stranger things have happened!

I'd like to see the CSeries get some success here in Europe.

[Buster the Bear]

Rumour is that easyJet are looking at it to replace the A319 fleet?

[HeartyMeatballs]

Please don't let it be true! A replacement for the A319 could be possible. Wouldn't it be cheaper to just to rip out six seats and delete the second set of window exits and get rid of the fourth crew member. Surely the benefits of having a pretty common type would off set any fuel savings in the smaller CSeries?

The A319 could have a lower cost by a reduced MTOW, 25% less cabin crew, same type rating, virtually zero entry in to service cost, no additional training cost, no hassle associated with a new type, no issues with spare part supply and the operational complexity of split types.

EZY like to keep things simple. I hope they don't go CSeries.

[LTNman]

Well the continuing rumour is that easy are going to give it a trial. As I say it is a rumour so could be rubbish. It would be interesting to see who owns it and where it is parked at LTN like inside their hangar.

[LTNman]

It is in Swiss colours and has gone to Harrods.

[toledoashley]

Once you go past a decent amount of frames, the cost of the subfleet doesn't matter.

There must be a reason why airlines are not ordering the 319neo, all the airlines are upguaging to the 320 and 321 - obviously the economics don't work.

EZY is in an interesting position, and if they order the rumoured amount of the Cseries, could put them back in the game with Ryanair, as their airbus order was on the light side.

[LTNman]

Its a demonstrator reg C-GWXZ and has flown in from Farnborough. Its starting to look like the rumours are true.

[Buster the Bear]

It is now in Hangar 89 at Luton, the big bright orange one!

[DaveReidUK]

Its a demonstrator reg C-GWXZ and has flown in from Farnborough. Its starting to look like the rumours are true.

We'll see.

As you rightly say, despite being in Swiss colours it's a test/demo aircraft (FTV5), so EZY won't be flying fare-paying passengers around in it, though they could well fill it up with staff and send it on a proving flight somewhere.

But manufacturers do that all the time, Bombardier would be daft to pass up on the opportunity while the aircraft is already in the UK. Whether EZY are seriously considering adding the CSeries to their fleet is a different matter.

[toledoashley]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnU0m4sW8AAEYI8.jpg:orig

[DaveReidUK]

Cor it's amazing what you can do with photo-shop :E
There's none so blind as those that will not see...

Oh I see, it's all fake. Thanks for enlightening us. :ugh:

[EK77WNCL]

I don't see TOO much logic behind a CS300 order (unless it was mixed) but I see the CS100 as being a potentially good fit, A319 replacement, noticeably smaller than the A320 (CS300 has 160 seats, CS100 has 133) and thinking personally of Newcastle, I think it could lead to expansion. At the minute we have 3 A319, I could see 2 C-series, 2 A320/A320neo be a good move going forward. The C-series is right sized for domestic/EU city routes, as well as longer thinner routes, whereas the A320 is great for the high density, high frequency summer sun routes.

I really hope they do go cseries, maybe a split order for 100 with 50 each of the CS100/CS300, or just 100, 100's.

Much better economics than the A319/neo which is too heavy for loco

I hope they might go for 20-50 A321neo going forward as well. Gatwick, Luton and Milan would swallow 50 of them up no bother and I reckon would lead to a top up order.

[HeartyMeatballs]

NCL is currently 2 A319 AND 1 320.

Mixed fleets will hurt the ecomics of the smaller bases. GLA, PMI, BCN, VCE , NCL etc. Having a small sub fleet in LGW is one thing. Having a third or quarter of the fleet a different type pet base is different.

The larger bases should be A321/A320 IN 186Y should be the way forward.

I do think the Bombardier thing is just being hospitable to them and will use to negotiate with AB in future.

[EI-BUD]

Easyjet are aiming to reduce the proportion of 319's in the fleet, hence leaning towards the larger Airbus model. C Series, though a great propositon, would mean a huge amount of duplication, complexity and ultimately additional costs. No doubt a full evaluation will have been done on that but my guess would be that EasyJet have a great commercial arrangement with Airbus hence, on balance unlikely to be a business case for adding c series to the fleet....

[HH6702]

C-series could open up the market on routes where the A320 is too big.

[Seljuk22]

4 new routes from November to Krakow:
MAN 3 weekly
VCE 3 weekly
GVA 2 weekly
NAP 2 weekly

VCE-BUD 3 weekly

[davidjohnson6]

Flew as passenger on 01 August and saw in the August issue of the in-flight mag that Are/Ostersund has appeared on the destinations map.
http://traveller.easyjet.com/emagazine/2509/august-2016/
(jump to page 139 or page 173)
I don't recall seeing it on the map in the July issue or earlier this year or last year

Ostersund is not a major business centre by any means and the main reason to go there for leisure purposes is to skiing and winter snow.
Granted it's possible Easyjet are operating some winter charters to Ostersund but why would Easyjet add blurb about getting from airport to town by bus or taxi for people on package hols with inclusive transfers ?
Perhaps Ostersund is to be announced formally in early September (once Europe gets back from their beach hols) to be a winter ski destination starting Xmas 2016 ?

Article (in Swedish but Google Translate gives the general gist) suggesting the tourism authority in Ostersund was talking actively to Easyjet earlier this summer, including the possibility of offering attractive commercial terms.
http://www.op.se/jamtland/stor-satsning-pa-direktflyg-ska-locka-turister-fran-storbritannien-till-lanet

For those interested, Ostersund is famous amongst Swedes for the monster living in a nearby lake, similiar to Nessie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storsj%C3%B6odjuret

[HeartyMeatballs]

It won't just be packages with EasyJet Holidays or Thomson/Thomas Cook who block book seats. Independent travellers will also be making the trip.

Interesting new destination. Scandinavia doesn't seem to work for EZ apart from CPH. I should have thought it would be on sale by now though.

[Ametyst1]

Ostersund is also a popular Swedish ski destination.

[planedrive]

Scandinavia hasn't really been on the map for a long time with EZY. It is worth noting that quietly introduced for this winter was Lyon-Stockholm which is the first EZY operated service to Sweden (GVA is EZS).

[easyflyer83]

Don't EZY do/did ARN-LGW?

[EI-BUD]

They don't do any LGW ARN, CPH is about the height of it in Scandinavia, Bergen was prob the most recent route tried, disappointing that didn't stack up for them... They do ARN to LYS and GVA..

[easyflyer83]

Could have sworn they atleast used to do Gatwick-Stockholm.

[canberra97]

Easyflyer83

Easyjet have never served Stockholm from LGW or any other UK airport, their only previous Swedish destination was Gothenburg.

[easyflyer83]

I stand corrected then.

[anna_list]

Easyjet flow to Stockholm from Malpensa and Geneva from 2008 to 2011. EasyJet opens routes from Stockholm's Arlanda airport - The Local (http://www.thelocal.se/20081021/15096)
Gothenburg was served from Gatwick, Manchester and Berlin in 2010, but none of these routes lasted for very long.

[toledoashley]

I'm thinking Ostersund would be more likely connected to the beach bases (Palma, Barcelona etc?), rather than the city routes EZY has tried before.

[davidjohnson6]

toledoashley - certainly possible but why would anyone in Ostersund want to talk to journalists about offering particularly attractive commercial terms to an airline to largely fly local residents to the beach ? There would presumably have to be some sort of inbound tourism for a local body to be preparedto put up substantial cash. Use Google translate on the Swedish article if you want the full details.

Furthermore flying from a minor provincial city to a beach possibly fits closer to Ryanair's or Norwegian's business model as opposed to Easyjet.

[SWBKCB]

Furthermore flying from a minor provincial city to a beach possibly fits closer to Ryanair's or Norwegian's business model as opposed to Easyjet

Might want to look at easyJets UK bases outside London! :ok:

[AvGeek1]

Is there any particular reason why easyJet Switerzland does not operate out of Zurich. They could have an extensive network similar to Basel and Geneva without the likes of Ryanair around. Although because easyJet hasn't paid Zurich much attention overall, Vueling are increasing their presence.

[EI-BUD]

They used to fly from Zurich. That was from the time they acquired TEA (which became easyJet Switzerland). They cited excesive charges and taxes as the reason for the exit. easyJet then was not serving Zurich until Aer Lingus entered the London Gatwick Zurich route (I may stand corrected) around 2008/9, ops by easyJet UK. A handful of routes have since been added to Zurich by the airline, but not as you say EZS.

EI-BUD

[LEEDS APPROACH]

Easyflyer83

Easyjet have never served Stockholm from LGW or any other UK airport, their only previous Swedish destination was Gothenburg.

This kid gets his post completely wrong - and then comes back well over a week later to edit his post to make it right! Surely this shouldn't be allowed?

More to the point if you apologised for being wrong!

[racedo]

This kid gets his post completely wrong - and then comes back well over a week later to edit his post to make it right! Surely this shouldn't be allowed?

More to the point if you apologised for being wrong!

Its an Internet board ....................get over it.

[canberra97]

LEEDSAPPROACH

First of all I am not a kid like yourself and yes I have read your ridiculous posts on here and your arrogant opposition to anyone who doesn't agree with you.

I edited my post only to mark a point of ex UK to Sweden routes by Easyjet, I can assure you the crap you have often posted on here is FAR worse than that, but I believe you live your life in a bubble so can't see it.

[AvGeek1]

What routes do you think easyJet will/should have on the cards across their UK bases in W16/S17. They grew most of the bases significantly in terms of 'new routes', apart from Gatwick. La Palma is the only new route so far that has been announced for 2017.

Manchester has seen a healthy amount of growth with new routes like Porto, Vienna, Paris & Milan added this year and Kraków, Gran Canaria & Turin still to come at the end of this year. I think there are still major gaps in the network that need to be served. Your thoughts?

Luton is running at capacity, but hasn't stopped them adding new routes to Toulouse, Tenerife, Lanzarote & Turin at the end of this year.

Is this Stansted base really necessary for easyJet. They cannot expanded it really as it is Ryanair's home base with fierce competition and they have Gatwick and Luton bases close by. They should just move routes to Gatwick or Luton bases and operate popular routes like Amsterdam from their base in Amsterdam. Opinions?

[FRatSTN]

It's "necessary" in the way that where the remaining routes at STN are profitable, there's surely no reason for them to move elsewhere. I'm not saying it will never happen but can't see much advantage in doing so.

Like it or not... EZY may not have much choice but to turn to STN again if suitable slots cannot be attained at LGW or LTN because as you say - they're at capacity.

By your logic should that mean that FR move all their LTN and LGW routes to STN?

[toledoashley]

There are, but in the uncertain market the UK might not be their primary focus for the next couple of years.

In reality for the beach routes, Egypt is really off the radar, so they should be looking at West Africa - maybe Gambia and the Cape Verde Islands, just as the major tour ops have. I am really surprised they haven't started Luton to Funchal, only served once a week by Thomson.

Stansted is an odd airport for EZY - pushing markets in which Ryanair would struggle should be their advantage, but is that market big enough?

The mantra is they will only open new routes in which they know they can win, or as a strategic play for the long term. So really, anything can happen!

[Waldo1]

Leeds approach....what a ����

[EI-BUD]

FRatSTN,
Given your handle, I'd suggest you are far closer to STN matters than I. However your closing comment re by your logic should that mean that FR move all their LTN and LGW routes to STN?' Ryanair has an immensely superior cost position to EasyJet, hence it can make its flying programme work at lower levels of demand and is pricing policy is designed to generate demand and grow markets, they also have very deep pockets coupled with a willingness to compete into they reign supreme. There are few examples of where they have ran from the competition. So an FR consolidation to STN not likely. The other two airports are very significant to FR. LTN keeps its toe on easyJet, quite a few strategically places routes their to keep easyJet off, like rak and mla. LGW is now the destination for one of Ryanair's busiest routes, DUB LGW will move to 8 daily from W16/7, and BFS to 5, so a very significant dot on Ryanair's map.

EasyJet has pruned the Stansted network consistly, and shifted routes to LGW where Ryanair is likely to show up... With Ryanair on GLA and EDI ex STN now ( 2 big STN routes for easyJet), we shall see easyJet's commitment to STN tested..

[AvGeek1]

I agree with you both EI-BUD & toledoashley. I just don't understand what they are trying to do at Stansted and the logic behind it. For example, they ended their Sofia service from Stansted, then Ryanair jumped on the route and then easyJet returned with low frequency seasonal service. How is that suppose to hold up or compete with Ryanair also operating?

Also they launched a 2 weekly seasonal Reykjavik service that wasn't well timed and operated on inconvenient days for a weekend trip, and I montiroed the route and loads were shocking, should just stick with Gatwick & Luton.

They could expand their networks at either Gatwick or Luton with routes like Asturias, Bilbao Cagliari & Ljubljana transferred from Stansted and serve Stansted from their bigger bases like Amsterdam.

I do like the idea of easyJet operating to Cape Verdefrom Gatwick, especially Boa Vista, as I think it would be quite popular. I think easyJet are running out of routes to operate from Gatwick or are there still gaps in the network where they could viably operate to?

[nt639]

AVGEEK, is this not just going over the same things that you posted in the LTN thread back in June http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airports-routes/527514-luton-8-a-214.html#post9397737 it appears you are a Luton fanboy/spotter From your previously posted threads. So is this not just a wish for you for your favourite airport!

[AvGeek1]

AVGEEK, is this not just going over the same things that you posted in the LTN thread back in June http://www.pprune.org/airlines-airports-routes/527514-luton-8-a-214.html#post9397737 it appears you are a Luton fanboy/spotter From your previously posted threads. So is this not just a wish for you for your favourite airport!

Thank you for being so observant about my post in June, as you can probably tell I still think the Stansted base is a bit odd to this day. Luton is certainly not my favourite airport, it is a hellhole! Although I live near Luton I choose to fly from Gatwick every time I fly and travel 2 and a half hours to get there every time actually! Also dont call me a easyJet fanboy next either because I fly BA every year!

It just makes business sense to consolidate there operations in London with their Gatwick and Luton bases why operate a small base that cannot be expanded due to Ryanair knocking at the door with fierce competition operating a wide range of routes. They are also running out of options to expand out of Gatwick and routes like Ljubljana and some others operated at Stansted can help them achieve this.

[SWBKCB]

It just makes business sense to consolidate there operations in London with their Gatwick and Luton bases

Does it? You've based this statement on what?

[owenc]

What is the legroom of the emergency exit rows on Easyjet A320 aircraft?

[HeartyMeatballs]

Its around 36" for the over wings. Same for 2ABC but the bulkhead means there's little in the way of space to stretch your feet. 1ABC has unlimited legroom. However be advised that if the aircraft is 186Y configuration, there will be a bulkhead there also so little foot space. The only other benefit it yours served first at the front.

[owenc]

That's great.

[toledoashley]

Ostersund is now open for booking - Sundays.

[NWSRG]

Wonder is there any substance to this?

FTSE 100 dips but Easyjet higher on bid speculation - BBC News (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37128923)

[MerchantVenturer]

https://www.theguardian.com/business/marketforceslive/2016/aug/19/ftse-100-drifts-but-easyjet-climbs-on-bid-speculation

This newspaper is mentioning Stelios, amongst others. The article does say it's all a bit vague.

[Mr A Tis]

Not my usual source of information, but https://www.thesun.co.uk/sun-city/1641678/budget-airlines-stocks-soar-amid-speculation-easyjet-will-be-bought-by-us-aircraft-giant-aercap/

Is this unsual for a leasing company to own an airline? I thought the whole point of such companies is to avoid the risks of running and filling planes?

If anyone does take it over, I hope they sort out the customer services of the airline as that area is badly letting down the rest of the company, IMHO.

[HeartyMeatballs]

You don't even need a new set of owners to change things. All it would take is replacing key people under whose watch things have gotten so bad in terms of customer service. The thing is the City is happy with higher than ever profits, ever growing load factors and dividends so unfortunately things will never change.

[Mr A Tis]

...please correct me if I'm wrong, but to the six months to March 2016 it lost £24M rather than "higher than ever profits"

[racedo]

You don't even need a new set of owners to change things. All it would take is replacing key people under whose watch things have gotten so bad in terms of customer service. The thing is the City is happy with higher than ever profits, ever growing load factors and dividends so unfortunately things will never change.

City looks to make money........ companies being bought and sold make it money.

If Easyjet is sold the cost if it has to be made back for the new owners.

[easyflyer83]

Mr A Tis
For most airlines, making a profit in the first 6 months the of the financial year (I.e the winter time) is difficult. Whilst easyJet made a profit in the winter before, most airlines make a loss over the winter months. That is why summer is still critical.
Not withstanding your gripes, easyJet has been making record breaking profits. As a spotter/enthusiast/industry man you will know just how seasonal our industry can be and that is reflected in an airlines profits.

[HeartyMeatballs]

What ef83 says. This year will be challenging due to heavy discounting this summer but they should be a strong set of results for this FY. The northern summer is when most airlines make their money (hopefully covering the winter loss and more) resulting in an annual profit.

I can imagine winter losses are extremely common for Euro airlines and even Ryanair have reported winter losses previously only to make a profit overall. Winter schedules contract significantly and aircraft are parked up for the season or for certain days of the week to reduce the losses.

They also have bags and bags of unrestricted cash. Many competitors just have vast amounts of debt.

[racedo]

What ef83 says. This year will be challenging due to heavy discounting this summer but they should be a strong set of results for this FY. The northern summer is when most airlines make their money (hopefully covering the winter loss and more) resulting in an annual profit.

I can imagine winter losses are extremely common for Euro airlines and even Ryanair have reported winter losses previously only to make a profit overall. Winter schedules contract significantly and aircraft are parked up for the season or for certain days of the week to reduce the losses.

They also have bags and bags of unrestricted cash. Many competitors just have vast amounts of debt.

Companies who have made profits for years have gone bust, companies who have made losses for years still operate.
Accountants fo earn their money.

Companys who have no cash go bust, companys who have lots of cash don't.

Bottom line is CASH is king.

[nguba]

I can't see a big private equity bid for a FTSE 100 company like EasyJet happening.

Remember before the 2008 financial crisis there were potential private equity bids for Qantas and Iberia which would have ended in complete disaster had they gone through.

[davidjohnson6]

Easyjet are currently in a vulnerable position with Brexit hanging over them and (in theory) legal trouble around long term traffic rights. Easyjet's legal team will be doing all they can, but management will be aware that a magic wand may not solve everything, especially if a competitor airline decides to challenge Easyjet's view of the legal world through the courts.

That said, a company would need to have very significant resources to mount a takeover bid of Easyjet. I doubt a company outside the UK / EU will be able to get round legal ownership constraints. Furthermore, other major airline companies like IAG, LH or AF-KL will be aware of the difficulty in integrating a LCC with a full service carrier without destroying company culture and invoking labour strife. A bid from Ryanair may well raise monopoly/competition concerns.

If I was a CEO thinking of bidding for Easyjet, I would want a much better idea as to what Brexit is going to look like from a legal standpoint first.

[SWBKCB]

and that will be a while :eek:

[racedo]

A bid from Ryanair may well raise monopoly/competition concerns.#

That never going to happen :E

[RAT 5]

BA resurrects GO?? (Sh. this is a rumour network)

[toledoashley]

I presume EZY hold the IP for GO though!

[Ametyst1]

Rumour is that Stelios and AerCap are teaming up to acquire easyJet and take it private.

[RAT 5]

Rumour is that Stelios and AerCap are teaming up to acquire easyJet and take it private ship it out to Africa and try to make Fastjet into a profitable airline.

[HeartyMeatballs]

May God help us all.

There will be shrinkage. All money syphoned off to start easyToothbrushes/easyFunerals/easyCarlube/easyChipShop or to bankroll current basket case businesses. Or even the extremely valuable easyJet name which is so engrained in European culture throughout the continent will be prostituted to the likes of two bob African LCCs who have all the success hallmarks of easyCruise. A brand name that is where it is due to the hard work of front line staff and not Stelios and certainly not the multi millionaire airline management board.

Time to sell up and jump ship?

[paully]

If he does 2 things will happen..The Grand Dame will get her marching orders, (not before time) and customer service behind the scenes will be much improved.Cabin and Flight Deck always was very good :D

On another note they are having shocker in Biarritz..Had a birdstrike late last night on the inbound from Gatwick and pax have had to wait for it to be repaired.Still on the ground.Got a son on it, so we`ll see how quick they make the appropriate payments ;)

[compton3bravo]

Doubt will get much if anything, not our fault bird decided to fly into an engine.

[paully]

Oh dear, you are out of the loop

Passengers delayed by bird strikes can claim compensation, judge rules - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/Passengers-delayed-by-bird-strikes-can-claim-compensation-judge-rules/)
https://www.fairplane.co.uk/are-bird-strikes-a-defence-to-flight-delay-compensation-claims/
http://www.travelweekly.co.uk/articles/53996/bird-strikes-ruled-not-extraordinary-circumstances-in-compensation-case

[Binder]

Once, as a passenger, I was preparing to board the aircraft that had just landed from the Airport I was returning to. The airline put out an indefinite delay due to a bird strike. The same aircraft then departed to North Africa empty.

Yes there had been a bird strike, but on another aircraft 1000 miles away. So the aircraft I was preparing to fly on had been requisitioned......which is being a bit naughty with the facts and very naughty with 150 hacked off punters.:=

So I'm with the Judge on this one...

[businessair75]

But that could still happen today if the airline believes it more economical to work it that way. It still doesn't cover any deceit admittedly.

The fact is that a bird strike is, in the eyes of the law, within the airlines control which is absolutely ludicrous.

The legislation is actually a decent piece of consumer law but it should only apply to a limited number of circumstances and scenarios with the intent of achieving optimum performance from the airline. Instead, we have over compensation and sheer greed from joe blogs.

[HeartyMeatballs]

From what I can see all it has brought is:
-higher prices
-reduced safety margins
-no improvement in on time performance

[davidjohnson6]

Has reliability been improved, have engineering teams been required to strengthen procedures, or have airline scheduling / crewing departments been persuaded to leave a little bit more time between flights in case things go wrong operationally ?

[WHBM]

The fact is that a bird strike is, in the eyes of the law, within the airlines control which is absolutely ludicrous. The bird strike may not be. What is fully within the airline's control is how they carry out the service recovery. This was getting progressively more passenger-unfriendly (and not only with airlines, other transport means as well) and the compensation etc is there as an incentive to sort things out very pronto.

What was absolutely ridiculous was a developing trend to leave pax isolated for the sake of operational convenience and minimising expenditure. A very major LCC who cancelled a flight on a 3 x weekly schedule from a holiday island where most were returning home, said the next 2 flights were full, and the only remedy was to rebook them a week later or give them their (just return leg) money back was the clincher for the EU politicians.

[Mr A Tis]

The idea that passengers are trying to claim anything and everything is untrue. What is true is that many airlines, in particular LCCs think they are above the law. Even when legitimate claims are due, it appears to be the norm to fend off, ignore & dismiss claims until the customer takes them to a court.
Surely if the court finds in favour of the customer(which is often the case) then it was a legitimate claim. However, would it not be better if LCCs had proper customer services and sorted out these issues without going to litigation.?
If the airlines had played fair in the first place, there wouldn't have been the need for the legislation in the first place.

[compton3bravo]

Don't worry people, if ever the UK leaves the EU there will not be any EU 261 where people will be able to claim unless the government introduces it's own law, but by that time the likes of easy, Jet2 etc will have moved there registered office out of the UK to carry on their business unhindered.

[bjones4]

Don't worry people, if ever the UK leaves the EU there will not be any EU 261 where people will be able to claim unless the government introduces it's own law
... Or the government enacts EU261 in the same way non EU members like Norway, Iceland and Switzerland have in which case nothing changes.

[Trav a la]

Mr A Tis
The idea that passengers are trying to claim anything and everything is untrue.

There are some that might, but the vast majority won't.

An example of this is medical emergencies. It's not specified as an Extraordinary Circumstance within the regulations and it often results in a lengthy delay. However, I do not believe PAX, solicitors or claims companies have claimed compensation for this type of incident.

Most PAX do have compassion for anyone who becomes seriously ill during a flight and understand that it is not the type of situation to try to benefit from.

After all, but for the grace of God etc.

I'm almost certain that the British government will have to adopt all the EU laws and regulations that we now have due to the shortage of time to create alternatives before we leave.

[nonemmet]

... Or the government enacts EU261 in the same way non EU members like Norway, Iceland and Switzerland have in which case nothing changes.

I'd imagine that EU 261 is already enacted, it would be a case of un-enacting it?

[ELondonPax]

All "EU" is only law if it's enacted into national law in the individual member state, which we in the UK do as a matter of routine. So all existing laws which came about at Brussels instigation are now part of UK law. The $64million question is which (if any) we choose to revoke/amend as/when we leave.

[DirtyQwerty]

Oh dear, you are out of the loop

Passengers delayed by bird strikes can claim compensation, judge rules - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/Passengers-delayed-by-bird-strikes-can-claim-compensation-judge-rules/)
https://www.fairplane.co.uk/are-bird-strikes-a-defence-to-flight-delay-compensation-claims/
http://www.travelweekly.co.uk/articles/53996/bird-strikes-ruled-not-extraordinary-circumstances-in-compensation-case
Don't normally post but really! Why the sarcastic comment and what 'loop' are you in? Is it the ambulance chaser or airline troll loop? Please read and digest the articles you provide links to! I'm pretty sure a judgment handed down by a small claims court does not set a precedent in law! :ugh: Similarly the regulation will still apply to UK reg airlines when the disruption affects a departure from an EU member state, the same as it always has with all other non-eu airlines
operating EU to US for example. In my opinion the UK will keep the legislation I just hope they balance the scales i.e let's not have to fork out €400 to a pap delayed 180mins when they've only paid 9.99 for the ticket!

[crewmeal]

What a carry on....................

EasyJet flight 'delayed for an hour after crew members fight over water bottles' | Daily Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3756970/EasyJet-flight-Belfast-delayed-hour-crew-member-hauled-fight-water-bottles.html)

[toledoashley]

CrewMeal - Highlights some of the unprofessionalism I have seen over the last year.

[businessair75]

Unprofessional, unfortunate. But lets have a sense of perspective. Its not the first time this has happened onboard a flight though it is rare. Also, i'm not so sure that this is representative of easyjet crew toledoashley.

Generally speaking I find easyJet crew to be some of the most friendly and professional crew I have seen. Not always totally polished (but thats not the business they are in) and you are more than likely met with a smile and a down to earth attitude when compared to some of the carriers i fly. Even on the one or two occasions where things have gone awry on my flights, i would go as far as to say that the easy jet crew were the saving grace.

[paully]

Dirty Qwerty

Read your first sentence again and take note.You sound just like the other disconcerted Easyjet shareholder , if indeed you`re not one and the same.............

[inOban]

I see that the release date has been brought forward slightly, from mid October to early October. Mind you,it was originally mid September.

[Nil further]

Thats handy ,will enable you to book dates the pilots are not on strike ..............

[HeartyMeatballs]

Still a let down in terms of releasing schedules. People won't wait in anticipation of easyJet releasing their schedule. They'll simply book Ryanair or Jet2 who both have their schedules out for 2017. Isn't it about this time of year that base closures are announced? Usually last minute on a Friday afternoon?

[alasdair1]

Hi ,
I also think easyjet when it comes to schedule release its too late in the year and the staggered sale for summer makes it harder for booking dates off work etc.

I do think it would make sence in releasing in may with the other companys ie jet2
I have noticed they will do routes that they are they sole opperate at easyjet which is good and lowest fares on release day does anybody know the spesific day as it will be a Thursday more than likely?

[goldeneye]

Easyjet are rumored to be close to buying a stake in TUIfly Germany to keep access to the EU following Brexit

Source (http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-easyjet-m-a-tuifly-idUKKCN11S17V)

[CabinCrewe]

Last I heard it was a non EU airline who will be mopping up the subgroup TUIFly... Think the EZY collaboration is off.

[toledoashley]

I still believe the best chance of EZY getting an AOC via an airline purchase is Volotea.

[BFS BHD]

How many A320ceos does easyJet have left on order?
Wikipedia says 39 on order and Jethros says there's only 2 more on order...

[inOban]

Early summer flights released next Thursday 6th.

[daikilo]

According to Airbus.com,
Orders & deliveries | Airbus, a leading aircraft manufacturer (http://www.airbus.com/company/market/orders-deliveries/)


at end August they had ordered 149 A320ceo and had taken delivery of 112 so at that time it was 37. Don't know whether they took delivery of any during September.

[BFS BHD]

Cheers they took a delivery on Wednesday past (G-EZPP) into LGW. So that should leave 36 on order?

[HH6702]

Anybody know what's happening at ncl for s17

[mik3bravo]

This Thursday 6th Oct – EZY seat sale and includes Easter 2017 :ok:

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/travel/easyjet-tricks

[HeartyMeatballs]

NCL will be three ac base for the seventh year running. Rumour has it BFS based ac will operate some of the BFS rotations freeing up NCL based ac to operate either new routes or increased frequencies. Rumour has it the seasonal services will be operating a longer season.

[HH6702]

Great news heard that PMI maybe done by PMI based aircraft also

[alasdair1]

Does anyone know if edi is having more routes or increase frequency on routes
And any glasgow news

I heared in the plane to bjv that it is going to 3per week from edi hope its true as it is a popular flight and sells out quickly even this year

Alasdair

[AvGeek1]

The schedule for the summer is released TOMORROW so we will see if there as been any frequencies changes and new routes added in this release hopefully. I know they are late releasing then all other airlines but just be patient.

[AvGeek1]

The easyJet schedule seem to be partially up, but flights only available until June 2017!

[HeartyMeatballs]

I believe it's only for Spring.

At a time when Jet2 have flights available right up to winter 17/18, and at a time when people are thinking about their summer 17 holiday, eJ only have flights for Spring

PMI based aircraft only seems to do one LGW flight so it looks like there's more flights to be added. PMI has no new routes and would seem to operate current routes only cheaper. They've not added any new routes following Air Berlin's pullout.

Unless they're being staggered. There were no NCLPMI flights when I checked this morning. Now they're showing.

[AvGeek1]

Surely this isn't it from easyJet, with no new routes that I can see of from most UK bases. I read on an article that easyJet's team were down in Zadar, Croatia, so maybe we could see LGW-ZAD.

[inOban]

Easy jet always release summer schedules in this way. The peak flights are released early next month. If you search for easy jet 2017 flights you will find the page listing their plans.

[AvGeek1]

Easy jet always release summer schedules in this way. The peak flights are released early next month. If you search for easy jet 2017 flights you will find the page listing their plans.

Yes, but new flights launched in S17 are usually done so in March, April, May & June never in the peak summer months of July and August.

[FRatSTN]

EZY never normally announce any new routes the day they release their schedules. It's usually a separate announcement at a later date.

[LGS6753]

EasyJet braces for £90m profit hit from currency plunge (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/10/06/easyjet-profits-to-tumble-25pc-as-carolyn-mccall-rues-extraordin/)

[planedrive]

EasyJet braces for £90m profit hit from currency plunge (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/10/06/easyjet-profits-to-tumble-25pc-as-carolyn-mccall-rues-extraordin/)
Yet still to make £495ish million. Shows just how fickle the stock market is.

[Carnethy]

Just received e-mail (below) regarding an aircraft change to my flight. Could this be referring to a newly delivered A320neo? Reason I ask is that since commencing 5-6 yrs ago this route has been operated by an A320. I believe a switch to A319 isn't possible due to range from EDI.


We are writing to let you know that the assigned aircraft to operate your flight EZY6946 to Edinburgh on 11-03-2017 has been changed. As the position of the last rows of seats on the aircraft has now changed, your seat number may also have changed.

We would like to apologise in advance for any inconvenience these changes may cause you.

Again, nothing on Jethros re delivery dates except 'Due 17'.

[toledoashley]

Maybe not a neo, but a new Spaceflex interior retrofitted on a current aircraft.

[fa2fi]

There are no NEOs on line right now but a few (about half a dozen I think) came with the new cabin but I don't think the older fleet have been retrofitted get. I think it's G-EZPM onwards.

I can't think why they would need to change any assignments on the seats. As far as I've seen there's been two half rows added on the right side of the cabin. The rest of the cabin remains unchanged.

I can't think why any currently booked seats would have to be switched so I'm inclined to think it's been switched to an A319.

[lfc84]

the only time i have seen this as a passenger is a 320 being changed to a 319

[Captain_Caveman]

Just received e-mail (below) regarding an aircraft change to my flight. Could this be referring to a newly delivered A320neo? Reason I ask is that since commencing 5-6 yrs ago this route has been operated by an A320. I believe a switch to A319 isn't possible due to range from EDI.


We are writing to let you know that the assigned aircraft to operate your flight EZY6946 to Edinburgh on 11-03-2017 has been changed. As the position of the last rows of seats on the aircraft has now changed, your seat number may also have changed.

We would like to apologise in advance for any inconvenience these changes may cause you.

Again, nothing on Jethros re delivery dates except 'Due 17'.
Hi Carnethy, Your flight is planned to operate on a 186Y ceo instead of 180Y ceo. You will notice the email says that your seat MAY have changed so it depends if you had already booked your seat or not as to whether the seat will have actually changed. If you havent chosen a seat then it will be assigned when you check in online nearer the date.

[Carnethy]

Thanks Caveman! Shame though as had my hopes up for the neo.

[alasdair1]

I was reading somewhere that all the A320's will be retro fitted by 2018 to the 186Y configuration

I was wondering with the neo if easy were going to use the max seating of 195Y but I hear this wont be the case

Does anyone know when the retro fitting will happen and which registrations are due to be retrofited,
Iknow that PJ onwards are delivered with 186Y

Regarding the flight on the 11/03/17 I also hear its a 186 but the seat map shows 180y so not been updated yet.

[easyflyer83]

Last I heard were 10 retrofits per month over two winter seasons.

[Captain_Caveman]

I was reading somewhere that all the A320's will be retro fitted by 2018 to the 186Y configuration

I was wondering with the neo if easy were going to use the max seating of 195Y but I hear this wont be the case

Does anyone know when the retro fitting will happen and which registrations are due to be retrofited,
Iknow that PJ onwards are delivered with 186Y

Regarding the flight on the 11/03/17 I also hear its a 186 but the seat map shows 180y so not been updated yet.
alasdair1, There is no online seat map for 186 seat version currently so will not be updated to 186 seats displayed. Regardless of 180 or 186, the easyJet.com seat map is the same. The extra seats are available via customer services or are assigned by the reservation system automatically

[OltonPete]

Any ideas whats cooking at easyjet in respect of Birmingham - Belfast?

They have put summer 17 on sale but only to Monday 24 April 2017, which is the day the West Midlands schools go back from the Easter break but I can't see anywhere where they have put a route on sale for the new season just for a few weeks other than the usual ski destinations and unless either BFS or BHX are diversifying into the little known NI or Midlands ski industry it seems an unusual move. Obviously for bookings it is not a problem as this in the main is a late booking route but still it has not happened before,

The aircraft does not appear to have been allocated to another route although I only checked one Monday in May.

Pete

[GAZMO]

Pete
Maybe more to come
BHX has improved pax numbers so maybe looking at more frequency??
Likewise with BFS EDI only two flights on a Tuesday and both in the morning, nothing at moment in afternoon or evening

[Buster the Bear]

EasyJet founder Stelios Haji-Ioannou back on attack over planes deal | London Evening Standard (http://www.standard.co.uk/business/easyjet-founder-stelios-back-on-attack-over-planes-deal-a3366081.html)

[Seljuk22]

11th aircraft will be based at SXF this November. FR currently have 9 aircrafts based at SXF.

In 2017 EZY plans to grow by 12% to 5.4 million passengers at SXF. This year they expect 4.8 million (+4%).

[tubby linton]

EasyJet successfully issues new EUR500m bond - Sharecast (http://www.sharecast.com/news/easyjet-successfully-issues-new-eur500m-bond/25075015.html) What will Easy use the money for?

[LGS6753]

Buying aeroplanes?

[EK77WNCL]

I'm still hoping they get the CSeries...

[Buster the Bear]

EasyJet recorded its busiest day ever on Sept. 23, flying 255,000 passengers on more than 1,600 flights. And its all-Airbus fleet—144 A319s and 113 A320s

[angelo26]

Hi all!

I have a german licence (LBA) and I need to convert it to a UK CAA licence.
The direct transfer is not possible, could someone who had a german licence tell me how he managed to convert it(recently).
thank you very much for your help.
I appreciate it!
Best Regards

[SamYeager]

Hi all!

I have a german licence (LBA) and I need to convert it to a UK CAA licence.
The direct transfer is not possible, could someone who had a german licence tell me how he managed to convert it(recently).
thank you very much for your help.
I appreciate it!
Best Regards

This is NOT the correct thread. Please post in the Tech Log forum.

[angelo26]

Hi Sam,

thanks for the info.

Regards

[inOban]

I see that the Easyjet website is finally confirming what a number of posters seem to have known already - the peak summer flights are released on Thursday.

[inOban]

Went on to the site this morning to see if there if there were peak season changes from EDI. (Last year one KEV rotation was swapped to CPN in the peak.) To my astonishment I find that several routes have their frequencies slashed in the new release: I've noticed CPN, NCE, Berlin and Hamburg each losing up to half their rotations. Anyone know what's going on?

[marko1]

Went on to the site this morning to see if there if there were peak season changes from EDI. (Last year one KEV rotation was swapped to CPN in the peak.) To my astonishment I find that several routes have their frequencies slashed in the new release: I've noticed CPN, NCE, Berlin and Hamburg each losing up to half their rotations. Anyone know what's going on?

It's exactly the same for Bristol too. Most summer sun routes like Tenerife Alicante etc have been reduced for August. Very strange

[HH6702]

IS easyJet just not putting all the flights on sale to see how bookings go?
With the low pound /euro/dollar are they being cautious or they shifting capacity to elsewhere so trying to make as much money as possible with the fleet?

[Seljuk22]

Looks like EZY will cancel a lot of city to city routes next summer:

HAM-ORY
SXF-BRU
MXP-BRU
MXP-FCO
LTN-CPH

[toledoashley]

Seljuk - very interesting. I still maintain EZY needs to differentiate if they are truly going to gain traction in some of these newer city-to-city routes.

[toledoashley]

Gatwick - Granada will be announced shortly (8th), starting 4th February. Three times weekly (Tuesday, Thursdays and Saturdays)

[Flightrider]

Does anyone have a clear view on what easyJet are doing for S17? Various forums are full of comments about airports like EDI and GLA losing services through frequency reductions and some smaller routes being closed. It equally doesn't seem to be a big push into Euroland as some intra-Europe routes are also being closed if all of the threads are correct. The only conclusion that can be reached is that easyJet are cutting back fairly widely - is this actually the plan?

[01475]

Do they have a habit of making separate announcements for new routes?

[davidjohnson6]

New route announcements equals plenty of (almost) free publicity. MOL has proved to be a master of this game in the past. Easyjet should have picked up on at least some of his tricks by now

[1sky]

Easyjet seem to be a in a bit of trouble compared to their key competitors. Their half year update wasn't pretty and what is coming likely to be even less so.

[inOban]

The fact that MOL is virtually giving away seats to keep up his load factor suggests that everyone is finding the market very soft. Last month's Easyjet data showed that they were prepared to let their LF drop, by over 3%, rather than go down that road. After all a route is only viable if enough PAX are paying real fares.

The fact that some routes within mainland Europe are being cut suggests that the slowdown is not just in traffic ex UK, caused by the fall in the £ and the general economic uncertainty.

Interestingly, the affected routes from EDI (CPN, HAM,SXL,NCE, and Prague, as far as I can see) are, with the exception of NCE, not seasonal bucket and spade ones. I would have thought that much of their PAX would be booking at short notice, either on business or on a w/e break. I don't know how they can predict loadings 8 months ahead.

Of course, a significant part of their holiday business is prebooked by tour operators. It may be that they have cut back.

It must also be pointed out that far more holiday PAX are outbound from the UK than inbound. Any decrease in outbound in the present political/economic situation is unlikely to be balanced by any increase in inbound PAX.

[HeartyMeatballs]

They need to work on easyJet Holidays. It's very half hearted. It could be a successful part of the group like Jet2Holidays are to Dart Group.

I'd have hoped inbound tourism to London and Edinburgh would have partly offset any drop in outgoing pax from the UK. Interesting times. Sweetheart Gatwick is full, the uncertainty of of EU situation following Brexit makes me wonder where they go from here in the near future.

They've gifted regional UK routes to Jet2 in the north & now STN. They can't expand Gatwick, Luton is creaking, Bristol is almost full. Ryanair assault at NCL & new base in BFS, growing bases in EDI & GLA Sharm, Turkey and Tunisia gone. Spain now full competition. Birmingham or EMA could have been an option but Jet2 have it now.

Price always wins. easyJet do have a fairly low cost base. Time to reduce prices, get people onboard, treat them well & ensure customers for life once things pick back up in years to follow.

I'd say investment in the product is needed but nothing happens in the big easy unless it is 'cost neutral' (practically a company slogan) or safety related.

[1sky]

The fact that MOL is virtually giving away seats to keep up his load factor suggests that everyone is finding the market very soft. Last month's Easyjet data showed that they were prepared to let their LF drop, by over 3%, rather than go down that road. After all a route is only viable if enough PAX are paying real fares.


I am not sure sure about that looking at the latest set of results from Easyjet, Ryanair and Wizz Air.

Both Ryanair and Wizz are managing are managing continued growth in profit, passengers numbers, load factors, and control of costs. Easyjet numbers show a small decrease of numbers/loads, and a slight upward trend in costs (with no immediate positive trend expected).

Easyjet has struggled to to properly establish itself outside of the UK (with the exception of Switzerland and to some degree France) and never managed proper inroads into Central and Eastern Europe. Yields on their med flights now seem to be heavily impacted by the growth of Vueling, Ryanair and Norwegian. And of course Ryanair are now growing at major airports…

The never ending battle of ideality between management and investors cannot be helping.

[Mr A Tis]

treat them well & ensure customers for life once things pick back up in years to follow.
"customer services" have ensured that I will never fly with them again.
A previous regular flyer with the airline, I'm one of many that have sought successful legal resolution to a dispute with them.
The onboard product maybe acceptable, but for me the failure to deal fairly as per their own customer services charter leaves alot to be desired.
Hopefully these shortcomings will be addressed in the future, but somebody has taken their eye off the ball.

[FRatSTN]

EasyJet need to wake up and smell the coffee. Even now they still see BA, AF/KL etc. as their main competition when in fact they should be far more worried about the likes of Ryanair, Vueling, Norwegian and even Jet2 to some extent here in the UK.

If EZY were serious about competing with FSCs (that requires high frequencies on core business routes) then closing such routes probably isn't the wisest move, and it certainly wasn't the wisest move to have closed both their bases at MAD and FCO in recent years.

Fact of the matter is, EZY constantly re-allocate their aircraft to where they believe will get the best returns - which usually seems to be somewhere with relatively little competition from other LCCs and/or in airports/markets where EZY is already well established (providing there is the capacity to do so).

By all means, it's a logical strategy however going forward you have other LCCs growing at a much faster rate than EZY and more importantly, in primary airports on EZY's territory. EZY have long benefited by being the only LCC with a significant network in primary airports alongside the FSCs. That is no longer the case and they now seem to react by reducing capacity and running away from their actual competition.

FR since around 2013/14 time have overtaken EZY by a vast extent in the likes of ATH, BRU, CPH, FCO, LIS, SOF not to mention also their foray into BFS, GLA, HAM, MXP, PRG to name a few where in many cases FR are well on course to overtake EZY. Already, FR have overtaken EZY in SXF which has long been one of EZY's largest bases. That's just FR, never mind VY, DY etc.

[toledoashley]

Certainly EZY has been risk adverse compared to the competition. Maybe having a smaller fleet has forced them to be more brutal on routes which don't perform?

EZY needs a differentiation, not just the belief they have the strongest pan-European network as that isn't useful for the majority of passengers - great customer service is...

[True Blue]

I am starting to think that EasyJet are starting to lose the plot a bit. As a very regular user from Belfast, I look at the timings on some routes out of Belfast, especially next summer and I wonder what they are thinking. Especially for an airline that claims that they are after the business passenger.

[inOban]

Reading these posts, it seems clear that there is something wrong with the culture in Easyjet. Some employees seem to have forgotten that the customer pays their wages. Also that one of the best adverts for a company can be a fully-satisfied complainant. Not only will they come back, so will their friends.

Even if their complaint is not fully justified, it is better to keep them happy. After all, if they misunderstood the T&C, that's the company's fault: it's their job to ensure that the customer has understood them.

It's also clear that the continual sniping from Stelios is leading to short-term planning.

[HeartyMeatballs]

I'm not going to say anything about the culture other than the are extremely safety concious. On the front line that's what we are all concerned about. The product & company direction are all down to the office staff.

Over the years they have achieved a lot & should have been proud of what they did. Unfortunately they've taken so much cheese off of the pizza that it's no longer a pizza operationally & also the product is stale. Try opening a pizza shop selling only bare & stale pizza bases and your wont get far.

The product needs more toppings and maybe even a stuffed crust. Unfortunately it comes back to what I said about cost neutrality. Only when safety is compromised will they splash the cash. Otherwise they'll only invest to save money further down the line.

They also focused only on share price and little else. It was great as a shareholder but now it's all about the future.

They no longer have a significant low cost base and operate in to big airports so prices can only reduce so far. The product is cheap and bare bones. Norwegian do it better. Even Ryanair do it better. The easyJet boarding experience is grim & now only X amount of bags go onboard leading to queues at the gate tagging bags. The baggage system needs a refresh but it would be unfair to single easyJet out.

[gopaisleygo]

HeartyMeatballs - reading Gordon Bethune then?:O

[HeartyMeatballs]

I have no idea what that means!

[gopaisleygo]

google "worst to first"

[HeartyMeatballs]

Ryanair apparently growing to 585 by 2024. easyJet flexible but can grow significant. That's the equivalent of a whole new easyJet (at its current size) taking to the skies before we factor in growth from WIZZ, Jet2, Vueling, Eurowings. That's a lot of extra capacity.

[HeartyMeatballs]

Oh I get it now!

[tubby linton]

All of the above probably explains where the 500m Euro bond is going to be spent

[EK77WNCL]

Can anybody provide information on how many aircraft (and of which type if possible) easyJet had based at UK airports for S16, and any changes for S17?

I know LGW is the largest with about 55-ish? and NCL is the smallest with 3 (2 A319, 1 A320) and Bristol has about 15/16 but apart from that I'm clueless, but would quite like to know

Also, is Malpensa still #2, and how many aircraft are based there?

[Sholto Douglas]

Manchester currently has 11 based and will increase to 12 next summer.

[BFS BHD]

Belfast International is 4 A319s & 1 A320.

[FRatSTN]

EasyJet I think have 21 in MXP but not sure on the A319 v A320 split.

Some debate as to how many LTN has for S17 but around 20ish, again not sure on the split.

STN is 6x A319s and 1x A320.

SEN is the smallest with 3x A319

GLA has 4x based and LPL 7x based but again not sure on the breakdown of A319s v A320s but both definitely have a mixture.

[MKY661]

LPL is normally 5x A319 & 2x A320, I'd imagine it will be the same.

[inOban]

Last summer EDI had 4of each. Don't know about S17.

[Callum Paterson]

GLA was 3x A319 and an A320. S17 will see a capacity increase to 2x A319 and 2x A320.

[JamesC2001]

During the winter season, there are 2x 319 and 1x 320 based at SEN

[Severn]

BRS in S16 was 7x A319 and 6x A320, totalling 13 aircraft.
S17 will see 14 aircraft needed, potentially a 15th for the height of summer.

[alasdair1]

Hi
Does anyone know the date of the december release I was sure it was tomorrow the 1st but no update on easyjets site date wise

Alasdair

[sinbad73]

Website only refers to 'December' Flight schedule release dates | easyJet (http://www.easyjet.com/en/schedule-release)

[RAT 5]

Ryanair apparently growing to 585 by 2024. easyJet flexible but can grow significant. That's the equivalent of a whole new easyJet (at its current size) taking to the skies before we factor in growth from WIZZ, Jet2, Vueling, Eurowings. That's a lot of extra capacity.

Has the sky been told about this and expanded too? :rolleyes:

[alasdair1]

thanks I was trying to book my flights for end of sept as booked my accomodation
i always book my flights on release day so was hping they had set a date

[BFS BHD]

Next release is due 8th December.

[alasdair1]

Thanks as all it said on easyjet was. December

[planedrive]

Lots of new routes released today. Feel free to add any that i've missed off!

Basel to: Biarritz 28th June, Dubrovnik 28th June
Belfast to: Dubrovnik 14th May.
Berlin to: Bastia 26th June, Pula 27th June, Zadar.
Bristol to: Kefalonia 22nd April, Pula 27th May
Hamburg to: Bordeaux 4th June, Rhodes 5th June, Valencia 28th June
London Gatwick to: Varna 6th June
London Luton to: Stockholm Arlanda 26th March, Biarritz 27th June, Rhodes 27th May
London Southend to: Murcia 27th April
Manchester to: Dubrovnik 22nd July, Granada 21st July, Preveza 21st May
Milan to: Granada 26th March, Santiago 28th March, Stockholm 27th March, Zadar 27th June
Naples to: Cagliari 26th June, Dubrovnik 26th June, Lille 11th June, Mahon 27th June, Zurich 13th May
Nice to: Faro 9th June, Zurich 10th June
Paris CDG to: Bilbao 26th March
Toulouse to: Malaga 9th June, Menorca 28th June, Olbia 27th June, Valenica 29th June, Venice 10th June
Venice to: Lille 10th June, Majorca 27th June, Marseille 12th May, Toulouse 10th June, Zurich 12th May
Geneva to: Tivat 1st July

[compton3bravo]

London Stansted to Mahon one weekly from 24 June to 2 September.

[inOban]

This keeps quiet about the services being cut back from the end of June, eg at least 6 from EDI.

[ib26uk]

Is the easyJet route from Luton to Stockholm in responses to Monarchs route launch to Stockholm starting a month later ?...

[1sky]

Also Berlin SXF - Varna.

[planedrive]

inOban,

Which routes are being cut from edi? all still seem to be on sale.

[inOban]

Not cut, just reduced frequency. The most extreme is SXF, which is cut from 6 to 3/wk from the end of June. Also CPH, NCE, Hamburg, Prague, Alicante - may have missed others. Hamburg is restored for the autumn, but none of the others. I think.

[gilesdavies]

Was hopping for more new routes from Luton...

Considering easyJet has completely cut Copenhagen which was 4x a day. A few weekly services to Rhodes, Stockholm and Biarritz, hardly makes a dent, on the aircraft utilisation that was required to operate Copenhagen.

Good however to see these routes added however.

[compton3bravo]

Come on Giles keep up at the back - what about Nantes, Marseilles and increases on Venice, Naples etc as well as the routes you mentioned will more than make up for the Copenhagen route.

[Powerjet1]

Valencia from Luton also.

[Seljuk22]

SXF to get a 12th based aircraft next summer.

New routes next summer:
http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/airlineroute/270379/easyjet-s17-new-routes-as-of-13dec16/?highlight=easyjet

[RAT 5]

What happened about the 2 strikes? 1 = against fatiguing rosters. 2 = AMS base?

[Welshtraveller]

When are EasyJet's winter flights (November 17) released from Bristol?


The website provides little information.


Thanks.

[Phalconphixer]

Granada - Manchester? Why?
Granada - Gatwick instead? Yes please and long overdue to replace the former very successful Monarch route.
For a while GRX lost all its International routes until BA introduced its LCY-GRX route but unless one lives in Essex or London itself LCY to anywhere is a joke...
GRX... smashing little airport, Granada voted most beautiful Spanish City 2016...

[chaps1954]

Why not Manchester? Manchester too is a great city why should London be the only place in UK and Manchester has a big catchment area that will make the route a success.

[AerRyan]

And sure, the area around Prestwick is lovely. (Hurts to say)

Doesn't make a market though does it?

Economies of scale, London is much much bigger than Manchester.

[compton3bravo]

My understanding was that the Monarch service was not a success that is why it was dropped.

[chaps1954]

Manchester is now delivering massive increases with 25M plus so can support many of the routes London can and is proving it with upto 40 new routes starting next year

Ian

[DomyDom]

Granada - Manchester? Why?
Granada - Gatwick instead? Yes please and long overdue to replace the former very successful Monarch route.
For a while GRX lost all its International routes until BA introduced its LCY-GRX route but unless one lives in Essex or London itself LCY to anywhere is a joke...
GRX... smashing little airport, Granada voted most beautiful Spanish City 2016...
The Manchester catchment area is huge covering the Midlands right up to The Lakes and as far as Edinburgh and across to and including Yorkshire. That coupled with the very well-healed areas of Cheshire and North Yorkshire make Granada an ideal market for UK city breaks. MAN has grown considerably in recent years with 'niche' routes such as OPO, VRN etc. being an important part of that market. Perhaps take a trip to the North West when you are back in the UK - you might be pleasantly surprised.

[DomyDom]

And sure, the area around Prestwick is lovely. (Hurts to say)

Doesn't make a market though does it?

Economies of scale, London is much much bigger than Manchester.
AerRyan, yes you are right London is bigger than Manchester. For the reasons given above there is every reason to believe that GRX has the potential to be a very successful route form MAN based on the demographic of MAN catchment area. EasyJet's track record of growth from MAN demonstrates clearly that they know what they are doing with only a couple of routes having been pulled since they started operating from there. EZY do their homework, they wouldn't have started the route unless they had the evidence to know that it will be supported.

[DomyDom]

Delighted with the new EZY MAN-GRX announcement and I'm looking forward to using it. Its great to see passengers having the choice to travel to the wonderful city of Granada from either the north or south of England. EasyJet know what they are doing and based on their track record from MAN I'm sure it will be a success.:D

[Navpi]

AerRyan I would stick to your local patch!