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Old 10th Apr 2023, 11:46
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Not quite as simple as that. WizzAir Holdings is Jersey registered with it shares traded on the London stock exchange but is Swiss based while Wizz Air U.K. is Luton registered. During lockdown Wizz qualified for money from the U.K. government so how Hungarian is it?
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Old 10th Apr 2023, 13:07
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None of those are financials. Quite easy to find the loss they reported for the first 9 months of their fiscal year (-351 million). I guess the Q4 (finished 31MAR) won't turn it into a profit whatever load factor they had.
Their stable program in LTN today: TIA an hour, CLJ an hour, PRG two hours, OTP an hour, TLV 90 mins, BUD five hours and a bit, BEG 90 mins, KUN an hour, evening PRG two hrs, PMI estimated three hrs, evening BUD an hour.
What is interesting is the all first wave inbounds were all early. Is the problem the handling agent or airport congestion itself? My point is they do not seem to be cancelling flights like they did before so have resolved crewing issues. With the extra stands coming in should they consider basing a spare aircraft?
A look at Gatwick today aircraft arrive on-time yet depart late.
As I type an EZY from LTN to BFS was off chocks on time then sits at the run-up by for 35mins.
Oh, Sunwing from last night didn't depart until this morning, 11 hour delay. It will be interesting to see anyone offer pax were put up in a hotel, offered food & beverage and kept up to date? I think the plane was night stopped on Cargo so obviously broken and stand needed for usual nightstoppers.

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Old 10th Apr 2023, 14:09
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Originally Posted by LTNman
Not quite as simple as that. WizzAir Holdings is Jersey registered with it shares traded on the London stock exchange but is Swiss based while Wizz Air U.K. is Luton registered. During lockdown Wizz qualified for money from the U.K. government so how Hungarian is it?
Didn't Ryanair get a much bigger loans, Gatwick Airport & Stagecoach did also, all have parent companies abroad. BA is owned by IAG which is registered in Madrid. Ownership was not the criteria of Covid loans.
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Old 10th Apr 2023, 14:42
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Originally Posted by LTNman
Not quite as simple as that. WizzAir Holdings is Jersey registered with it shares traded on the London stock exchange but is Swiss based while Wizz Air U.K. is Luton registered. During lockdown Wizz qualified for money from the U.K. government so how Hungarian is it?
None of this makes a difference to the simple English public. British Airways are British despite actually being Spanish, easyJet are British despite arguably now being Austrian and founded by a Greek, Wizz Air are "from some poor east European country" and Ryanair are Irish, which many English unbelievably still think is British.
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Old 10th Apr 2023, 16:04
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Maybe U.K. flagged G-WUKE should be registered G-WOKE to match Republican’s indignation.

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Old 10th Apr 2023, 16:14
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One thing is for sure and that is despite what the British State Media state, Wizz Air has a brighter future than that of the United Kingdom.

Forget that England's beloved Union is dead, forget that England's economy is in the pan, forget that the average family from "poor East European counties" will very soon be more wealthy than the average English family, forget the English cost of greed crisis. An airline from some East European country had a delayed flight into Luton, get the Brit state media to report it. East European airlines, coming over here stealing business from British (Spanish) Airlines. How dare they.

I hope you've got your little Union flags at the ready to celebrate with the family of a Peado next month? All the aforementioned but an unlimited budget for Charlie and his dysfunctional family. Weird, weird little island.
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Old 10th Apr 2023, 16:17
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Originally Posted by Republican
None of this makes a difference to the simple English public. British Airways are British despite actually being Spanish, easyJet are British despite arguably now being Austrian and founded by a Greek, Wizz Air are "from some poor east European country" and Ryanair are Irish, which many English unbelievably still think is British.
Simple mistake. Ryanair are an airline of the British Isles after all.
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Old 10th Apr 2023, 16:22
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Travelodge

Just noticed that Travelodge plan to open a Hotel at the Airport in their expansion plans
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Old 10th Apr 2023, 16:30
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Grrr

Originally Posted by Republican
One thing is for sure and that is despite what the British State Media state, Wizz Air has a brighter future than that of the United Kingdom.

Forget that England's beloved Union is dead, forget that England's economy is in the pan, forget that the average family from "poor East European counties" will very soon be more wealthy than the average English family, forget the English cost of greed crisis. An airline from some East European country had a delayed flight into Luton, get the Brit state media to report it. East European airlines, coming over here stealing business from British (Spanish) Airlines. How dare they.

I hope you've got your little Union flags at the ready to celebrate with the family of a Peado next month? All the aforementioned but an unlimited budget for Charlie and his dysfunctional family. Weird, weird little island.
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Old 10th Apr 2023, 16:37
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Originally Posted by DC3 Dave
Simple mistake. Ryanair are an airline of the British Isles after all.
Simple mistake if you're a simpleton.
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Old 10th Apr 2023, 16:55
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One thing is for sure and that is despite what the British State Media state, Wizz Air has a brighter future than that of the United Kingdom.
Maybe not in the UK but then the airline has said U.K. law does not apply to it, as it tries to wriggle out of paying CCJ’s and cancels routes with almost no notice.


https://paliparan.com/2023/02/05/wiz...unreliable-uk/

Forget that England's beloved Union is dead, forget that England's economy is in the pan, forget that the average family from "poor East European counties" will very soon be more wealthy than the average English family,
With the U.K. down the pan according to Republican, what is the point in expanding Luton or building new hotels? Maybe rich Romanians will keep Luton going while the Brits end up taking their holidays in Clacton? Maybe Brits will start crossing the Channel in dinghies as they claim economic asylum in Latvia?

Bad new for Luton?

Shhh it’s from the Hungarian press

https://dailynewshungary.com/hungari...-be-cancelled/

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Old 10th Apr 2023, 20:48
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I wouldn't take much notice of Hungarian press, MOL is not happy in Hungary after they imposed a windfall tax on Ryanair and he wanted to pass onto customers and reduce routes. It is not the happiest member of the EU on a lot of issues.
With so many HA- aircraft of Wizzair appearing on the 9H- register are they shifting away from their roots (Ok RYR have done similar and Eurowings as well).
Wizzair itself is a network of 1,000 routes in 55 countries in Europe, Middle East, Asia, and Africa, UK is not such a big part of the overall scheme, they are forecasting 67M pax this financial year which has just started.
If they did up sticks and abandon Luton & Gatwick (W6) bases, do you think the slack will be missed for even a couple of days, others will be in like a shot and you would still have the waves of W9 (or W4) aircraft just someone else overnighting.
How many markets do they really need with G- based aircraft, Iceland, Morocco, I don't think they do Gibraltar any more ?
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Old 10th Apr 2023, 21:33
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The claim is that Wizz suffers from brand awareness issues on non Eastern European routes. I would say that Wizz has been getting plenty of free publicity in the past few months and all for the wrong reasons. Time will tell how this impacts on their Luton operations but I suspect there will be some negative impact.

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Old 10th Apr 2023, 23:25
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My questions are always (in no particular order):
  • Are they safe?
  • Good reputation in both the travel and airline worlds?
  • Timeliness and reputation for cancellations?
  • Customer service when something goes wrong
As Consumers Association have listed them as terrible and the only time I used them LTN-VNO-LTN, we had very poor customer service and cabin attitude - I do not expect to use them again. Being Eastern European does not, of itself, come into it. I use the Spanish BA because they (usually) do OK and have a good safety record. The same for some other carriers on my list.
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Old 11th Apr 2023, 06:42
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Would the state-backed British propaganda network the BBC, have ran this story if easyJet or British Airways were the worst airline? I suspect not.
​​​​​​​get the Brit state media to report it
One thing is for sure and that is despite what the British State Media state,
I've stopped at the first five that Google chucked up, but I would imagine every major news outlet has covered it, and I would imagine it would have been the same story who ever was top of the list (never heard of 'tall poppy syndrome'?). Cheap and easy to write. Facts eh, always getting in the way...

ITV - Wizz Air ranked the worst airline for flight delays from UK airports

The Mirror - Wizz Air named worst airline for flight delays - as Ryanair & EasyJet miss the Top 10

Sky News - Which short-haul airline was ranked UK's worst for delays last year?

Daily Mail - Wizz Air revealed as worst major airline for flight delays from UK airports for second year running - with its passengers left an average of 46 minutes behind schedule

Daily Express - The UK's worst airlines for flight delays have been named - Full list
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Old 11th Apr 2023, 07:50
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So let me think. Do I book a holiday flight with separate accommodation with Wizz with its higher risk of delays, cancellations or route abandonment in full knowledge that it will be hard work if not impossible to get compensation or do I consider using another airline and possibly using another airport rather than Luton?

Random dates picked in August for 2 people flying Luton to Cyprus return, seats only with 20kg of luggage each. £1655.96.


No thanks.
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Old 11th Apr 2023, 08:05
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Sometimes people have to learn the hard way... and that includes Wizz. I'm sure they will realise soon enough if they are not getting the yield per seat that their competitors are seeing
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Old 11th Apr 2023, 20:12
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Would the state-backed British propaganda network the BBC, have ran this story if easyJet or British Airways were the worst airline? I suspect not.
The BBC "Watchdog" (consumer affairs) team did a rather negative article on Wizz Air on the BBC1 "One Show" last week.
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Old 12th Apr 2023, 06:39
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Iceland is, or very shortly will be no longer served by Wizz from LTN.
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Old 12th Apr 2023, 08:03
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Originally Posted by Alloy
Iceland is, or very shortly will be no longer served by Wizz from LTN.
Starts back up end of Oct so going seasonal it seems.
One of many changes, the strangest being Malaga stopping in June before the peak season and then starting back up for Winter23/24.

Cant believe Luton doesn’t have a link to Rome now, routes just seem to be getting further away.

Noticed recently the big increase in Flights scheduled to land after midnight (13 last night , not including Cargo) way up from last year, going to blow the limit in summer.
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