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Old 24th Apr 2023, 18:52
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SkyUp running the FlyOne Chisinau tonight, have they not been doing similar for Air Moldova at STN recently?
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Old 24th Apr 2023, 19:00
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If you look up UR-SQB and UR-SQO on FR24, it seems that both FlyOne and Air Moldova have each leased an airframe from SkyUp. It seems people aren't particularly fussed as to which of the 2 Skyup aircraft is used by each of the 2 airlines from Moldova. Worth remembering that in Moldova there are bigger issues of concern to Govt
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Old 26th Apr 2023, 18:38
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Originally Posted by davidjohnson6
If you look up UR-SQB and UR-SQO on FR24, it seems that both FlyOne and Air Moldova have each leased an airframe from SkyUp. It seems people aren't particularly fussed as to which of the 2 Skyup aircraft is used by each of the 2 airlines from Moldova. Worth remembering that in Moldova there are bigger issues of concern to Govt
See what you mean, UR-SQQ similar.
Lot's of arrivals from Manchester in the early hours, either very happy or sad pax!
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Old 27th Apr 2023, 10:22
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Ryanair Max

https://travelweekly.co.uk/news/air/...-luton-airport

Noise

https://www.huntspost.co.uk/news/234...-flight-paths/
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Old 27th Apr 2023, 12:30
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More pressure on 18M pax limit with these planes having more seats, just like with Wizz with 321s and EZY with 320s.
I note El Al is majority 737-9s now.

Is it up to the Airport about arrivals routing, these were signed off with NATS/CAA years ago? I don't think anything goes below 8,000 in Huntingdon area and Luton ATC does a good job avoiding the routing where it can subject to STN arrivals & departures, mix of LCY & NHT traffic and the occasional heavy out of LHR on full throttle but climbing slowly.
Wait until Cranfield gets busier......
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Old 28th Apr 2023, 13:01
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Things that busy again that BizJets are being parked on Delta taxiway or just that new stands work has reached near completion so that area can be used again like before?
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Old 28th Apr 2023, 18:54
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Construction update

The new apron is an odd shape with a missing section


The stands all line up though. Note the new floodlight.


The angled stand has strange markings.


Delta is still closed with Foxtrot taking the traffic.

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Old 28th Apr 2023, 19:30
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Thanks for the updates LTNman.
The strange markings on the angled stand will be the positioning of the nose wheel for various A/C types that will be using it.
I still wonder why this final shape design of the stands came about- there must be a reason why the delivery road exit from the undercroft was routed at such an angle.
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Old 28th Apr 2023, 19:32
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Thanks for the pichure update.
Angled stand should get different stop distance marks for 321, 320, 319, 738, 739 etc.
Delta is NOTAMed until 17th May 18:00 but I wonder if any of these new stands will be used for temporary BizJet parking via tugs?
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Old 28th Apr 2023, 19:33
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Looks like the apron will be ready by mid-May at this rate. The odd shape is as per the plan to accommodate the airside road plan and the height difference between this apron and the south stands.



Also the NATS AIS charts effective from 23rd May now show the apron will be called the Delta Apron and stands numbered 90 to 93


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Old 28th Apr 2023, 19:49
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Shows how tight those markings are for wingtip clearance of the airside road when the markings themselves are so close together. Miss the stop line by a half metre up, down, left or right and there could be an issue?
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Old 29th Apr 2023, 00:12
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Going to be a hell of a long walk to the south stands if that new pier gets built.
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Old 29th Apr 2023, 08:54
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Think the irony of it all will be if it does get built they will prob have to shut down a couple of stands to make a compound and access 😬
Best send the Airport a brochure on travelators.
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Old 29th Apr 2023, 13:14
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Originally Posted by Falcon666
Think the irony of it all will be if it does get built they will prob have to shut down a couple of stands to make a compound and access 😬
Best send the Airport a brochure on travelators.
Don't confuse them with travelators....They can't even keep the escalators after security up to departures working (both out of action again earlier in the week!)

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Old 30th Apr 2023, 09:36
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Today's second El Al flight comes in from...... .......Liverpool today.
What's that all about, dropping off their Eurovision contestants & crew?
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Old 30th Apr 2023, 09:59
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So with the new max8200 ac coming to LTN will these be in addition to or replacing current next gen B738ís?

how many a/c is FR basing at LTN now?
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Old 30th Apr 2023, 10:05
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Originally Posted by Habana2118
So with the new max8200 ac coming to LTN will these be in addition to or replacing current next gen B738ís?

how many a/c is FR basing at LTN now?
Swap 1 for 1 737-8 for a 737-8200.
Still the same number of based units, 5 in total I think. There are no overnight stands to base any more.
If the approval for pax limit to rise from 18m to 19m then that might change, maybe +1 by RYR, WUK & EZY. With 7 new stands coming online the limit will be terminal throughput once again.
As I have stated before everyone is using bigger aircraft now, I think EZY even do MXP with an away based 321NEO now.
Perhaps if 19m approved we will see a second based TOM again to give them better flexibility in bringing aircraft in for sheduled maintenance!

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Old 30th Apr 2023, 10:27
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The capacity increase from 18 to 19m will not be revolutionary. As alluded to this will likely be delivered by upgauging of aircract types. I doubt you'd see multiple operators adding in additional based aircraft, much as the demand may be there.
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Old 30th Apr 2023, 12:04
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18m > 19m = 6% increase.
RYR say 737-8200 is 4% larger capacity than their 737-8s.
WUK A320CEO to A321NEO is 21% increase in seat capacity but I think they only have 2 based now, others already are 321NEO.
So as you say, probably only room for 1 more overnighter. Bids for slots form an orderly queue.
If 19m gets approved, how quickly will a small jump to say 21m be asked on the grounds of encouraging quiter more full efficient planes which by design are larger?
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Old 30th Apr 2023, 12:26
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That 21m passenger figure will cost millions and would be reached under the existing concessionaire yet their concession ends in 2032. I can’t help but think a secret deal has been done to renew the concession without putting it out to tender or that the council will be secretly funding it, as how would it make financial sense with only 4 years to run from a 2028 completion date.
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