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Old 17th Feb 2023, 13:17
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The story of the boat

https://www.hertsad.co.uk/news/23320...nal-entrances/

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Old 17th Feb 2023, 16:35
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Originally Posted by gdiddy
CAA Figures for air travel in 2022.
What is interesting here is 2,013 of these were "business aviation" and the total number of "business aviation" flights across all London airports was 2,892, so Luton handled nearly 70% of all these flights!
Source - CAA
You have to include Air Taxi movements as well which give a total LON figure of 6,698. For example LCY declared 3,806 Air Taxi movements but nil Business Aviation, while LTN declares nil Air Taxi movements and 2.013 Business Aviation. Even so it does show LTN as having a very healthy proportion of the total.
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Originally Posted by LTNman
So how did the bloke from Bristol get to Luton Airport for his day out, walk?
Made me laugh they use a boat when cruise ships are by far massive polluters. Perhaps they should try the same at the Port of Barcelona- probably get beaten up by local traders!
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Old 20th Feb 2023, 16:17
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https://simpleflying.com/london-luto...ions-analysis/
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I take it the snow has returned to the Alps, on Saturday it looked like 50% of all flights were heading that way with the Netjets/Vista Jet/Air Hamburg/AirX etc. queued up for departures all day along with the Easyjets.
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Old 21st Feb 2023, 15:21
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I take it the snow has returned to the Alps, on Saturday it looked like 50% of all flights were heading that way with the Netjets/Vista Jet/Air Hamburg/AirX etc. queued up for departures all day along with the Easyjets.
Perhaps on the slopes but Innsbruck and Salzburg airports were similar to Malaga and Antalya - mid teens

The GA movements out of a good few UK airports was pretty decent Saturday.

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Old 22nd Feb 2023, 17:07
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AIUI there are further public DART test running dates needing guinea pigs :

> Wednesday 8th March 2023, 9am –1pm
> Monday 13th March 2023, 2pm –5pm
> Wednesday 15th March 2023, 9am –1pm
> Saturday 18th March 2023, 9am –1pm

I not myself cross checked this on the Razing Luton site though.

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Old 22nd Feb 2023, 19:04
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Well spotted. I thought they were finished after 2. Now there are 6. https://subscribepage.io/XL9GMZ
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Been looking into some numbers for summer in first week of July and typically around 150-160 departures a day for passenger traffic. How does this compare to 2019?

The based fleet to my knowledge looks identical (24x EZY, 11x WZZ, 6x RYR, 1x TOM) but thought movements in 2019 were nearer the 180 mark? Is there fewer non-based flights or are sector lengths increasing to result in fewer rotations per aircraft?
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Originally Posted by FRatSTN
Been looking into some numbers for summer in first week of July and typically around 150-160 departures a day for passenger traffic. How does this compare to 2019?

The based fleet to my knowledge looks identical (24x EZY, 11x WZZ, 6x RYR, 1x TOM) but thought movements in 2019 were nearer the 180 mark? Is there fewer non-based flights or are sector lengths increasing to result in fewer rotations per aircraft?
The comparison is 1,195 deps first week Jul 2019 vs 1,090 published so far for 2023 as per Cirium
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Remember EZY are likely to have more 320s vs 319s & WUK/WZZ more 321s vs 320s so pax potentially more with the same number of movements.
That's where the 18m pax could result in fewer actual movements. Might free up some space for Ad-hoc slots though so likely to be just a busy.
Time for EZY to consider again the A220 or E195-E2 for those domestic routes outside early morning & late evening ?
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When I did a couple of hours of trial for Eurostar I got a free return ticket to Paris. Definitely a good investment of a morning. I can't say I'm tempted by the DART trial.
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Time for EZY to consider again the A220 or E195-E2 for those domestic routes outside early morning & late evening
They would have to look very carefully at the costs of doing that vs potential income. Aren't they keeping more 319s than planned?
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Originally Posted by 22/04
They would have to look very carefully at the costs of doing that vs potential income. Aren't they keeping more 319s than planned?
Yes but that is only extended leases for S23 until more new metal arrives from the deferred order during covid.
The costs of running the old birds will start to rise and a CEO burns more fuel than a NEO.
I don't think so many will be around for S24.
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DART 4hrs a day from March 10th

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/l...-b1062683.html
Full commercial operations 24 hours a day are expected to begin at around the end of March.
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Noticed one of the impounded jets finally left on Wednesday- M-TINK was reregistered as N885X and finally got out- wonder what the story was there to negotiate its release.
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Noticed one of the impounded jets finally left on Wednesday- M-TINK was reregistered as N885X and finally got out- wonder what the story was there to negotiate its release.
I'm sure the FBO will be pleased to get rid of it, even if it does have outstanding fees, to make room for another paying customer.
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Originally Posted by pabely
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/l...-b1062683.html
Full commercial operations 24 hours a day are expected to begin at around the end of March.
Someone needs to tell Thameslink then as they are selling tickets between Parkway and the Airport for shuttle bus prices right into mid May to the point where tickets can’t be booked any further in advance.
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Would have thought the shuttle bus will run in parallel until end of May then, then just a standby service if anything goes wrong with the DART. Sounds like a good bus driver job, being on stand-by just in case!?
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The Times is running a story that the Dart is the UK’s costliest train link at nearly 4 per mile, overtaking the Heathrow Express that costs a mere 1.50 a mile, if the ticket was bought online.

Would have thought the shuttle bus will run in parallel until end of May then, then just a standby service if anything goes wrong with the DART. Sounds like a good bus driver job, being on stand-by just in case!?
More like they haven’t been able to fully integrate the new Dart fares into the railways booking engine.

The local bus company is contracted to provide a standby service at 30 minutes notice but the shuttle bus will operate a parallel service initially so passengers will have a choice.

How many regular passengers will just walk in the opposite direction and board a bus, as when they know the way they won’t be looking at new signage?

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