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AFAIK it will be an interline with EI ex LHR T2. Belfast is also listed. Would be very surprised if they launched both routes. The NOC was largely tour operator so it effectively couldn't fail so moving to SNN wouldn't make much difference as a tour operator is not going to pay more for the same seats to a different airport.
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Yes, Knock will not continue next year.
Any news on the Stobart Air base closure? I understand its almost 99% certainty that it will.
Could flybe or ryanair take up these cancelled routes?
Any news on the Stobart Air base closure? I understand its almost 99% certainty that it will.
Could flybe or ryanair take up these cancelled routes?
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Yes, the Knock-Cologne is being replaced with Shannon-Cologne next summer.
No surprise if landing rates are cheaper. They are still supplying the same market,-Galway. Knock and shannon would have very simular inbound markets, but shannon would have a stronger outbound market.
No surprise if landing rates are cheaper. They are still supplying the same market,-Galway. Knock and shannon would have very simular inbound markets, but shannon would have a stronger outbound market.
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Are we beginning to see Shannon airport flexing their newly found financial muscle? its clear that the moving of routes from Cork and Knock to shannon now has gathered pace - cant see how either airport respond given the precarious financial positions of both airports??
They are still supplying the same market,-Galway
If either Shannon or Knock is relying on that target market then they are both finished.
Are we beginning to see Shannon airport flexing their newly found financial muscle
its clear that the moving of routes from Cork and Knock to shannon now has gathered pace
Ryanair are doing their usual and moving Aircraft to where they reckon they will get a better return.
If Shannon was so brilliant why the rumors of Stobart closing the base?
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Neither are true.
Ryanair are doing their usual and moving Aircraft to where they reckon they will get a better return.
If Shannon was so brilliant why the rumors of Stobart closing the base?
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Stobart are closing their base I would assume due to performance but they clearly are expecting increased pressure from Ryanair - why did they pull their manchester service? Ryanair launched Manchester which is expected as they cant compete with Ryanair on routes
I agree with you to a point on ryanair moving aircraft to yield better return but they are clearly punishing cork in particular by blatantly moving successful routes such as the Polish and Lithuanian routes to Shannon to force the DAA to either signficantly reduce the charges in Cork or to force Govt to give them independance - you would imagine they have a fairly good deal in Knock also but its clear from looking at the numbers on the new Ryanair services in Shannon that some of them have not performed yet are operating through the winter - hard to explain this?
Ryanair are doing their usual and moving Aircraft to where they reckon they will get a better return.
If Shannon was so brilliant why the rumors of Stobart closing the base?
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Stobart are closing their base I would assume due to performance but they clearly are expecting increased pressure from Ryanair - why did they pull their manchester service? Ryanair launched Manchester which is expected as they cant compete with Ryanair on routes
I agree with you to a point on ryanair moving aircraft to yield better return but they are clearly punishing cork in particular by blatantly moving successful routes such as the Polish and Lithuanian routes to Shannon to force the DAA to either signficantly reduce the charges in Cork or to force Govt to give them independance - you would imagine they have a fairly good deal in Knock also but its clear from looking at the numbers on the new Ryanair services in Shannon that some of them have not performed yet are operating through the winter - hard to explain this?
Stobart are closing their base I would assume due to performance but they clearly are expecting increased pressure from Ryanair - why did they pull their manchester service? Ryanair launched Manchester which is expected as they cant compete with Ryanair on routes
So why pull the others?
Airline business logic and referenced in the Irish Examiner article would seem they can get better use elsewhere.
A Stobart Air spokeswoman said last night: “We are currently finalising our 2015 schedule, which will include further positive developments in our route network. As part of this, we are reviewing our operations at Shannon. Full details of our 2015 schedule will be outlined in the coming weeks.”
but its clear from looking at the numbers on the new Ryanair services in Shannon that some of them have not performed yet are operating through the winter - hard to explain this?
I agree with you to a point on ryanair moving aircraft to yield better return but they are clearly punishing cork in particular by blatantly moving successful routes such as the Polish and Lithuanian routes to Shannon to force the DAA to either signficantly reduce the charges in Cork or to force Govt to give them independance - you would imagine they have a fairly good deal in Knock also
It was not true then.
So why do you think that RYANAIR care so much about Cork independence that they will try force the Governments hand by reducing services?
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Traffic figures for all airports available on CSO website, free for all to view and evaluate loads etc ryanair want the best deal at every airport they operate to which is exactly as you would expect and it's clear they are reducing capacity at cork until they get a deal like they did at shannon etc my own thoughts on stobart air is that given ryanairs move in on Manchester that it's inevitable given their bases in the likes of Bristol , Edinburgh , Birmingham that there is a high possibility they will move in on these routes over time especially given they operated them a few years back ?? That's my opinion for what it's worth and could be completely wrong!
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Stobart Base Closure!!
"Stobart base is closing definitely and crew are to begin relocating in the next week
No indication flights will end before the start of next summers schedule at least"
Not Sure where your info from five juillet but NOT true!!
No SNN base staff have been relocated yet as there is NO firm
Closure date from management!
No indication flights will end before the start of next summers schedule at least"
Not Sure where your info from five juillet but NOT true!!
No SNN base staff have been relocated yet as there is NO firm
Closure date from management!
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I understand Galway is not the main market for Shannon, but it is the biggest market that Shannon/Knock share and I would imagine that most of the Germans on the Cologne to knock flight last year went to Galway. Many now will probably venture Clare and Kerry now too.
The Stobart base, where is this information being sourced from?
Imo, they are dropping the base because they fear Ryanair will add flights to Birmingham and destroy their market. They may continue flights from their bases in Cork and Dublin, but will not even try to challenge Ryanair.
The Stobart base, where is this information being sourced from?
Imo, they are dropping the base because they fear Ryanair will add flights to Birmingham and destroy their market. They may continue flights from their bases in Cork and Dublin, but will not even try to challenge Ryanair.
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Think it was a mix between an A319 and a CRJ during the summer, was an A319 for the peak. I udnerstand though the CRJ's are being handed back in 2016/17 so not sure if they have availability - interesting to see how it works - an A319 is a big enough aircraft for a new market such as this with little brand awareness
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Just saw this on Shannon Airport's Faceache page. This is an interesting one.
Shannon Airport is hoping for an additional flight boost from Turkish Airlines.
Representatives of the company have been meeting with local Airport officials and also addressed members of Shannon Chamber of Commerce at their President's lunch which was attended by the Taoiseach yesterday.
The CEO of Turkish Airlines told those gathered that they're actively looking at the possibility of passenger or cargo flights to Shannon in the future.
Representatives of the company have been meeting with local Airport officials and also addressed members of Shannon Chamber of Commerce at their President's lunch which was attended by the Taoiseach yesterday.
The CEO of Turkish Airlines told those gathered that they're actively looking at the possibility of passenger or cargo flights to Shannon in the future.
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Tasoieach Suggests Further Jobs Boost For MidWest | clare.fm
There is the article.
Would their be much of a turkey market?
There is the article.
Would their be much of a turkey market?