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It's on their website and agree they shouldn't have published a few weeks ago that the route was operating unless this was based on fact as they look a bit stupid now!
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Ah yes, they did publish that.
They stated Shannon to cologne would take over knock to cologne for 2015
They stated Shannon to cologne would take over knock to cologne for 2015
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It appeared in their e newsletter which is sent out a few weeks ago clearly stating germanwings were operating a new cologne service in 2015 and that it was moving from knock will go back and find and list original article
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Anyone confirm when Aer Lingus suspended the SNN-JFK run and when it's coming back? I thought the selling point of the B757 deal was right sized aircraft to allow a year round service?
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Suspended aroind 10 days ago and returns around 9 March. EI had no intention to operate JFK year round, it was the airport who suggested it and then blamed EI for missleading them!
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SNN-JFK returns march 15th.
The point of the 757's were daily, year round services. When Aer Lingus put in the 757's last year they told everyone they will now have a year round transatlantic presence at Shannon. Everyone rightly presumed for months that SNN-BOS and SNN-JFK were both year round. But that assumption was stopped by Aer Lingus once 7 months had passed and they felt they had got away with their PR stunt.
EI-A330-300, If it had been the airports fault, then why did Aer Lingus wait until September to confirm this?
The point of the 757's were daily, year round services. When Aer Lingus put in the 757's last year they told everyone they will now have a year round transatlantic presence at Shannon. Everyone rightly presumed for months that SNN-BOS and SNN-JFK were both year round. But that assumption was stopped by Aer Lingus once 7 months had passed and they felt they had got away with their PR stunt.
EI-A330-300, If it had been the airports fault, then why did Aer Lingus wait until September to confirm this?
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Maybe the so called 'PR' stunt you mention was the plan - brought back to reality by the people of Shannon not flying.
It's as if Aer Lingus owes Shannon a living. The beal bocht is as strong as ever.
It's as if Aer Lingus owes Shannon a living. The beal bocht is as strong as ever.
Nonsense. EI said a year and a half ago now that they would be "expanding existing services". They never said NY would be year round
http://www.aslaviationgroup.com/imag..._July_2013.pdf
Wouldn't be like Shannon to artificially inflate it's figures now would it
http://www.aslaviationgroup.com/imag..._July_2013.pdf
Wouldn't be like Shannon to artificially inflate it's figures now would it
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If you read it, it states " Year-round connections from Shannon to the east-coast will be introduced." All media, politicians and even the airport interperated this as both JFK and BOS, but it was just BOS.
Its easy to see the confusion was deliberate here. It is very clear that Aer Lingus wanted people to think that JFK and BOS were year round for a marketing stunt.
(Also, Ive never heard such whining about a small inflation of 8,000 passengers. Get over it, it doesn't affect anyone!)
Its easy to see the confusion was deliberate here. It is very clear that Aer Lingus wanted people to think that JFK and BOS were year round for a marketing stunt.
(Also, Ive never heard such whining about a small inflation of 8,000 passengers. Get over it, it doesn't affect anyone!)
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Again, maybe the intention was both, but the still soft economy doesn't permit.
The more the Shannon catchment flies from Shannon, the more airlines will provide sustainable routes. Stobart have chosen not to provide capacity from Shannon anymore showing how wafer thin margins are from the west coast.
So when the airport stops believing their doing a good job and actually starts finding ways to improve the attractiveness of airlines to the airport we may soon see sustainable growth over and above what Dublin is seeing.
The more the Shannon catchment flies from Shannon, the more airlines will provide sustainable routes. Stobart have chosen not to provide capacity from Shannon anymore showing how wafer thin margins are from the west coast.
So when the airport stops believing their doing a good job and actually starts finding ways to improve the attractiveness of airlines to the airport we may soon see sustainable growth over and above what Dublin is seeing.
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I disagree with the stobart remark. They were effectively forced out by Ryanair. One aircraft bases are not cost effective so it was shut completely.
Shannon defaintly has a strong year round market for New york, it already has United doing 12 months a year of flights, maybe Aer Lingus didn't see promising margins so it never tried it.
But I do agree, this new management are a bit naive. Pulling in 8 new services from Ryanair is something any airport can do, keeping them is another thing. The chair-person of the SAA, Rosa Hynes, is also a chair-person of the corrupt Irish water. Not good to hear. Neil Palkley has good talk, but I haven't seen him do much. He seems the only realistic person in the airport and realises that the airport needs to maintain services as well as getting them.
The greatest shambles is not having any Scottish access and little access to anywhere in the UK outside london.
Shannon defaintly has a strong year round market for New york, it already has United doing 12 months a year of flights, maybe Aer Lingus didn't see promising margins so it never tried it.
But I do agree, this new management are a bit naive. Pulling in 8 new services from Ryanair is something any airport can do, keeping them is another thing. The chair-person of the SAA, Rosa Hynes, is also a chair-person of the corrupt Irish water. Not good to hear. Neil Palkley has good talk, but I haven't seen him do much. He seems the only realistic person in the airport and realises that the airport needs to maintain services as well as getting them.
The greatest shambles is not having any Scottish access and little access to anywhere in the UK outside london.
If it was profitable for 2 airlines to operate from SNN to NY year round (I'm not including BAW1/3 for obvious reasons) you can bet someone would be doing it.
Airlines only have a finite number of aircraft. SNN needs to make a new route more profitable than the alternative (e.g. DUB) for airlines. That's a big ask when so many people in it's catchment are willing to fly from elsewhere.
There is no anti-Shannon conspiracy here, it's a free market now (thank God!). SNN needs to stand on it's own 2 feet and can't point the finger at airlines and cry foul when they only operate seasonally, it's up to SNN to make them want to increase services further.
Airlines only have a finite number of aircraft. SNN needs to make a new route more profitable than the alternative (e.g. DUB) for airlines. That's a big ask when so many people in it's catchment are willing to fly from elsewhere.
There is no anti-Shannon conspiracy here, it's a free market now (thank God!). SNN needs to stand on it's own 2 feet and can't point the finger at airlines and cry foul when they only operate seasonally, it's up to SNN to make them want to increase services further.
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United serve all of North America and Latin America from Newark, whilst EI just serve Shannon and some jet blue interline traffic.
If it was profitable, EI would fly it. It's not as if the aircraft is doing anything more productive.
If it was profitable, EI would fly it. It's not as if the aircraft is doing anything more productive.