BA Direct Entry Pilot.
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From: The Winchester
That's worth emphasising... - the company can and occasionally do choose to ignore freezes when it suits them for manpower purposes, but it's not the norm and anyone joining BA or planning on joining BA should assume they will serve in full any appropriate seat/type freeze.
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From: Botswana
..however BA recruited huge numbers in 2014/15 and many of these will be unfrozen and will take the majority of the long haul positions. This has not been the case in previous years as recruitment was quieter between 2012-14. My guess is that DEP short haul is more likely going forward.
Joined: Oct 2019
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From: dubai
Update
New email received yesterday, still trying to figure out what the manpower demand is for 2020. Once they have the go ahead and a budget they’ll start, until then I guess we’ll keep swimming!
Does anyone have any more info for example; if the training train will leave the station in Q1 2020 still? or has that ship sailed?
Does anyone have any more info for example; if the training train will leave the station in Q1 2020 still? or has that ship sailed?
Joined: Jun 2019
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From: South East
Hi Ladies and Gents
I was wondering if anyone has heard any recent positive news in the hold pool or are having a similar experience?
Ive been in the pool since the start of March. During my assessment I was told if successful to expect a call very soon as the pool was very low. After a couple of months without hearing anything I contacted them as they said no training was scheduled till the end of summer. Towards the end of July I got a call to expect a start date in Q1 2020 and I would receive that date in September, possibly into October. It’s now end of November and still no date and to be honest the recent emails from them have start to make me wonder whether it will happen at all.
I appreciate all this is subject to change when your in the hold pool, and I’ve heard people were waiting 24 months plus in the pool a couple of years ago. I just feel on the basis of what I have been told from the start it all feels a bit disconcerting. Just wondering if anyone is going through the same?
I was wondering if anyone has heard any recent positive news in the hold pool or are having a similar experience?
Ive been in the pool since the start of March. During my assessment I was told if successful to expect a call very soon as the pool was very low. After a couple of months without hearing anything I contacted them as they said no training was scheduled till the end of summer. Towards the end of July I got a call to expect a start date in Q1 2020 and I would receive that date in September, possibly into October. It’s now end of November and still no date and to be honest the recent emails from them have start to make me wonder whether it will happen at all.
I appreciate all this is subject to change when your in the hold pool, and I’ve heard people were waiting 24 months plus in the pool a couple of years ago. I just feel on the basis of what I have been told from the start it all feels a bit disconcerting. Just wondering if anyone is going through the same?
Joined: May 2006
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From: Here and there
Anyone moved from an Orange airline to BA on short haul recently could give me an insight please.
feel free to DM
could anyone please send me some examples of their short haul rosters or how they feel lifestyle and working patterns are.
thanks
feel free to DM
could anyone please send me some examples of their short haul rosters or how they feel lifestyle and working patterns are.
thanks
Last edited by Serenity; 23rd November 2019 at 07:04.
Joined: Jan 2014
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From: UK
LGW & LHR are quite different. LGW is seasonal so very busy in summer, very quiet in the winter months. I’ve averaged about 650-700 hours a year at LGW since I joined. Mainly day trips. Seniority increases pretty quickly (assuming recruitment continues).
LHR is the better option for commuting due to the amount of tours. Work is spread more evenly throughout the year. Don’t underestimate the hassle of operating there day in day out.
About 50% of the FO’s I fly with are ex orange. The majority seem happy with the decision but they unanimously agree it’s not the holy grail they’d hoped for/expected.
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From: UK
This sounds promising as I’m waiting for a SH start date. Though last week I received an email saying manpower plan not yet sorted so unable to offer start dates for 2020 at the moment...Anybody else know of any movement?
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From: Botswana
doesnt help when you’re pushed 787 manuals on DocuNet by mistake, just to give a bit of false hope then exacerbate the pain of NV when it inevitably comes.
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From: UK
I know people who have been pleasantly surprised to be given 787 command on type courses in January Rex, so perhap P2 will also have gone more junior than expected. The results will be with us soon enough.
Joined: Feb 2019
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From: hong kong
Hi Ladies and Gents
I was wondering if anyone has heard any recent positive news in the hold pool or are having a similar experience?
Ive been in the pool since the start of March. During my assessment I was told if successful to expect a call very soon as the pool was very low. After a couple of months without hearing anything I contacted them as they said no training was scheduled till the end of summer. Towards the end of July I got a call to expect a start date in Q1 2020 and I would receive that date in September, possibly into October. It’s now end of November and still no date and to be honest the recent emails from them have start to make me wonder whether it will happen at all.
I appreciate all this is subject to change when your in the hold pool, and I’ve heard people were waiting 24 months plus in the pool a couple of years ago. I just feel on the basis of what I have been told from the start it all feels a bit disconcerting. Just wondering if anyone is going through the same?
I was wondering if anyone has heard any recent positive news in the hold pool or are having a similar experience?
Ive been in the pool since the start of March. During my assessment I was told if successful to expect a call very soon as the pool was very low. After a couple of months without hearing anything I contacted them as they said no training was scheduled till the end of summer. Towards the end of July I got a call to expect a start date in Q1 2020 and I would receive that date in September, possibly into October. It’s now end of November and still no date and to be honest the recent emails from them have start to make me wonder whether it will happen at all.
I appreciate all this is subject to change when your in the hold pool, and I’ve heard people were waiting 24 months plus in the pool a couple of years ago. I just feel on the basis of what I have been told from the start it all feels a bit disconcerting. Just wondering if anyone is going through the same?
I've heard rumours this is dependant upon the current negotiations being completed. Would be great if someone in the know could confirm whether this is likely true or not.
Tvm
Keep it coming! Us swimmers will hopefully be rescued soon Joined: Jun 2019
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From: UK
Joined: Jun 2019
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From: south pole
Does Anyone have the Paypoint 34 (PP34) Payscale that new joiners will join on?
What can you expect the starting salary to be on Short Haul and Long Haul?
I know theres a payrise negotiation going on but just interested in the numbers as they currently stand.
Cheers
What can you expect the starting salary to be on Short Haul and Long Haul?
I know theres a payrise negotiation going on but just interested in the numbers as they currently stand.
Cheers
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From: Germany
https://www.pilotjobsnetwork.com/jobs/British_Airways
i think the full full scale is on the Balpa website, airline documents > BA MOA (Salary Annexe). Oh, important point, pension is based upon the 24 point payscale, so your employer contributions go up quicker than salary. There are seperate scales for
LGW and LHR SH as well as LH.
Pay settlement is looking at 11.5% over 3 years; there are other odds and sods thrown in that will give you an extra (minor) boost in salary. Stuff like an extra quid per hour Flight Duty Pay. If it’s signed off of course!!!
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From: The Winchester
pilots job network fairly accurate for LH.
https://www.pilotjobsnetwork.com/jobs/British_Airways
i think the full full scale is on the Balpa website, airline documents > BA MOA (Salary Annexe).
