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From: Botswana
Except it will Jumbo2 because you’re ignoring the fact that most of the lines in bidline are preconstructed lines which are basically a mixture of daytrips and tours. There’s only a handful of commuter lines (you don’t just need to be in the top 25% to get those, you need to be in the top 5% to have a sniff of those unless there’s other preassignments that make it unviable credit wise or unattractive to bid for those lines) but there are loads of tours available amongst the rest of the lines, it stands to reason that anyone in the top 50% could very well construct a line basically consisting of tours. Yes they might not be 4 five day tours every time but certainly the ability to build a more commutable work pattern will be far greater than it is right now and that is the one saving grace of JSS.
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From: London
I'm pretty convinced all the 4 day and 5 day trips will still end up in the top 25%, there are less then 75 4-5 day trips total and just like high credit day trips they will go senior. also at 50% you are still within reach of the optimisation process.
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From: England
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From: England
There's comfortably in excess of double that number available in Jan.
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I'm in the same position. Positive feedback from sim a few weeks ago. No further contact since that point. Waiting patiently for a phone call.
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From: home
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Not sure why one of Rex's funnier posts was deleted, but I like him now; can we keep him?
If y'all had any idea how much effort is being pumped into JSS on our end...
If you have multiple offers, please evaluate them objectively. I absolutely LOVE my job, but you ain't gonna join where I'm at.
If you want to talk privately, PM me.
Cheers
Buter
If y'all had any idea how much effort is being pumped into JSS on our end...
If you have multiple offers, please evaluate them objectively. I absolutely LOVE my job, but you ain't gonna join where I'm at.
If you want to talk privately, PM me.
Cheers
Buter
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From: Botswana
Post self deleted Buter as it wasn’t necessary to keep bickering about the amount of five day trips available on a BA recruitment forum.
January JSS dry run however has (as hoped for) thrown up a far more commutable SH roster than currently is the case with Bidline pre swaps which was more or less my point. Should only get better too with increasing seniority. However it’s a moot point for me as I’m off to sample the delights of Carmen!
January JSS dry run however has (as hoped for) thrown up a far more commutable SH roster than currently is the case with Bidline pre swaps which was more or less my point. Should only get better too with increasing seniority. However it’s a moot point for me as I’m off to sample the delights of Carmen!
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From: UK
Hello everyone,
Just looking for some advice, if anyone is ‘in the know!’
I recently attended (and passed) the second stage interview and group assessment and wanted to get some info regarding A320 command opportunities. It was claimed that with over the applicable command hours requirement, one could expect a short haul command, if so desired, at LGW (or even LHR!) within 6 -12 months of joining. Is this a real possibility? Are the command slots really going to those that junior?
Many thanks in advance.
Just looking for some advice, if anyone is ‘in the know!’
I recently attended (and passed) the second stage interview and group assessment and wanted to get some info regarding A320 command opportunities. It was claimed that with over the applicable command hours requirement, one could expect a short haul command, if so desired, at LGW (or even LHR!) within 6 -12 months of joining. Is this a real possibility? Are the command slots really going to those that junior?
Many thanks in advance.
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From: London
The bigger question by far should be, what will you be paid and what will your lifestyle be as a junior captain? I suspect the answer on both counts all be extremely disappointing. Think extremely carefully before deciding anything would be my advice
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Would you have got a command in that time frame if you had joined in time to bid for the following training year? 2016 = yes but not LHR, 2017 = no, 2018 = no for LHR, yes LGW. 2019 training year, rumour is yes for LGW but I believe it’s no for LHR but they have gone very junior. Hopefully that helps.
Now the truth about a junior command. Really really bad rosters. You will work at least 9 in 10 weekends if not more. Generally 2 day 6 again and again. The bonus was TASS which could mean a few extra days off per month over more senior guys who choose their work. Under the new JSS rosters that will have gone. You can expect to work 18 days a month or more all year on low credit trips with long turns at LHR. Add to that 3 reserve periods each year. It’s ok for a bit but for years and years you will sit stuck at the bottom as more senior guys parachute in above you. Essentially it destroys your life. It’s ok though because you will be rewarded with a captain pay check........except you will be paid 30-35k less than at EZY or RYR. Colleagues of mine have not had a clear weekend in a year! (Excluding leave)
LGW is probably a better option due to the rostering system.
BA is a good company to work for but the seniority driven rostering is terrible.
Now the truth about a junior command. Really really bad rosters. You will work at least 9 in 10 weekends if not more. Generally 2 day 6 again and again. The bonus was TASS which could mean a few extra days off per month over more senior guys who choose their work. Under the new JSS rosters that will have gone. You can expect to work 18 days a month or more all year on low credit trips with long turns at LHR. Add to that 3 reserve periods each year. It’s ok for a bit but for years and years you will sit stuck at the bottom as more senior guys parachute in above you. Essentially it destroys your life. It’s ok though because you will be rewarded with a captain pay check........except you will be paid 30-35k less than at EZY or RYR. Colleagues of mine have not had a clear weekend in a year! (Excluding leave)
LGW is probably a better option due to the rostering system.
BA is a good company to work for but the seniority driven rostering is terrible.
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From: Hung Kong
Hi all.
I'm off to stage 1 in a few weeks.
When I went the first time (18 months ago) I seem to remember being tripped up by the rate of climb/descent part of the computer test. I can't now remember what exactly the problem was but I do recall that it wasn't presented in the normal ft/min way that we're used to in real flying.
Is anyone able to post a few examples of how this part of the test works ?
Thank you
I'm off to stage 1 in a few weeks.
When I went the first time (18 months ago) I seem to remember being tripped up by the rate of climb/descent part of the computer test. I can't now remember what exactly the problem was but I do recall that it wasn't presented in the normal ft/min way that we're used to in real flying.
Is anyone able to post a few examples of how this part of the test works ?
Thank you
rgds
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From: Room 506
Hello everyone,
Just looking for some advice, if anyone is ‘in the know!’
I recently attended (and passed) the second stage interview and group assessment and wanted to get some info regarding A320 command opportunities. It was claimed that with over the applicable command hours requirement, one could expect a short haul command, if so desired, at LGW (or even LHR!) within 6 -12 months of joining. Is this a real possibility? Are the command slots really going to those that junior?
Many thanks in advance.
Just looking for some advice, if anyone is ‘in the know!’
I recently attended (and passed) the second stage interview and group assessment and wanted to get some info regarding A320 command opportunities. It was claimed that with over the applicable command hours requirement, one could expect a short haul command, if so desired, at LGW (or even LHR!) within 6 -12 months of joining. Is this a real possibility? Are the command slots really going to those that junior?
Many thanks in advance.
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From: Botswana
(And before we use the term “directed” in the same breath as DEP Long Haul I’m sure there were plenty of these people attempting to turn down Long Haul for RHS on the Airbus
)Last edited by RexBanner; 20th November 2018 at 12:25.
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If you want to make BA your career the only smart move is taking the earliest start date on whatever fleet you are offered. I was only offered long haul as at the time they didn’t have enough internal bidders who met the hour and insurance requirements.
Don’t join BA if your sole reason is expecting a very early command would be my view as you are likely to be disappointed, if only because those who are now getting very junior commands will be in those seats for a long time with very little movement. The only reason Gatwick particularly is going so junior is the need to man up and fly the slots acquired from Monafch internally.
Don’t join BA if your sole reason is expecting a very early command would be my view as you are likely to be disappointed, if only because those who are now getting very junior commands will be in those seats for a long time with very little movement. The only reason Gatwick particularly is going so junior is the need to man up and fly the slots acquired from Monafch internally.
