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Old 2nd Nov 2016, 09:30
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Swapping and sector swapping is the way ahead. Can completely re-write the roster and extend or reduce trip length. All subject to FTLs. The beauty is that if its legal then it can be done, via computer and not at the whim of a person.
Just out of interest, is there an issue with overtime or is there no overtime payment with BA? We have serious limits on my outfit on swapping because of course some try to maximise overtime while others try to maximise leasure time.
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Old 2nd Nov 2016, 13:51
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O/T is paid at a rate of 1.25 so isn't particularly appealing to many! Certainly when they are desperate the offer of Clash and Protect is there which basically means you go on a trip earlier than the one you were rostered often over a weekend but you keep the credit for the trip that you've been clashed off so essentially you are paid twice which is lucrative if you can get it.! (Hope that makes sense)
It has all but dried up on the 744 in the RHS this year it could well be there on other fleets though but its best not to count on it as its not consistent generally.
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Old 2nd Nov 2016, 14:30
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O/T is paid at a rate of 1.25 so isn't particularly appealing to many!
That may be. However, I recently met a 747 captain who earned 100k IN OVERTIME last year. I believe he is full time??

I don't think he bothers too much with emaestro, but his name is well known to those who 'matter'!

Clash and Protect is the secret!
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Old 2nd Nov 2016, 14:41
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Yep they are not over crewed with Capt's like they are FO's (currently on the 744 sure this could change) so plenty in the LHS are still able to Clash, as someone joining in the RHS i wouldn't count on it. Last year i did 300hrs this year I've done 45hrs!!!
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Old 2nd Nov 2016, 19:32
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Thanks for the answers. Guess our overtimes rates are quite different.
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Old 2nd Nov 2016, 19:40
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Overtime is paid at 1.25 x NCP however NCP is considerably less than your normal hourly rate. Overtime is incredibly cheap for the company unless you start getting into the realms of clash and protect which is what has enabled the above Captain to do so well. However, the days of clash and protect are pretty much over. The company obtains incredibly cheap forced overtime through bank withdrawal with immediate pickup of the withdrawn trip, and also through the roster assign process as previously discussed.
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Old 5th Nov 2016, 19:42
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Any other guys/girls in the pool heard anything recently for 320?
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Old 8th Nov 2016, 11:11
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I recently checked the website PPJN for pay scales and information on British Airways. Someone has updated the information stating that BA will require 300 DEPs for 2017. Does anybody know if there is any truth in that figure? I saw the figure of 170 DEPs quoted on this website.
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Old 8th Nov 2016, 20:11
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Alanrobins01, the investor day dust is still settling and we are waiting for the publication of the internal bid results which are over a week late. Some more info may come out then.
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Old 9th Nov 2016, 06:58
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I think someone updating ppjn has his numbers confused. There has been no discussion of 300 required in 2017 and the last we heard was that it was a slow year for recruitment. 2018 now that's a different story.
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Old 9th Nov 2016, 10:02
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Thanks overstress and RexBanner for the info.
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Old 10th Nov 2016, 18:54
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Been in the hold pool a while. Staring to get abit worried about what's going on. I believe I'm near the top of the list. Does anyone know what's happening/any info on what the intentions are on people in the hold pool?
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Old 11th Nov 2016, 15:18
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Ea300, hold your horses, keep treading water

The very latest news (today) is that there is no news. Any internal promotions/postings in 2017 will only be generated by part-time applications and retirements, the person processing this info has said this will not be finalised until December.
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Old 11th Nov 2016, 16:33
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Thanks for the info.

So what does that mean for guy like myself?
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Old 11th Nov 2016, 21:10
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There'll be A320 courses for sure, so if you're near the top of the pool then it is just a matter of time. However, reading between the lines from yammer, direct entry long haul may be close to non existent in 2017.
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Old 11th Nov 2016, 21:37
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How long are swimmers waiting before being offered A320 courses at the moment? And is route into the pool a factor? Answers might help to gauge whether I'm near the top too. Thanks
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Old 12th Nov 2016, 07:33
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Or alternatively why not just pick up the phone and ask them?
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Old 12th Nov 2016, 07:44
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They have specifically asked not to do that. Hence why I'm on here.
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Old 12th Nov 2016, 08:03
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Not wishing to contradict you - as obviously you are more aware than I of what you have been told - but I know of at least two people sat in the hold pool right now who have been directly told their status by the recruitment team.
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Old 12th Nov 2016, 08:14
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If you contact the recruitment team they will be able to tell you your number in the pool.
As to when you are are pulled out the pool they probably won't be able to answer or won't commit too.

Rex when you say 'almost non-exsistant long haul recruitment' can you elaborate on what was said at all?
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