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Old 9th Nov 2016, 05:58
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I think someone updating ppjn has his numbers confused. There has been no discussion of 300 required in 2017 and the last we heard was that it was a slow year for recruitment. 2018 now that's a different story.
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Old 9th Nov 2016, 09:02
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Thanks overstress and RexBanner for the info.
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Old 10th Nov 2016, 17:54
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Been in the hold pool a while. Staring to get abit worried about what's going on. I believe I'm near the top of the list. Does anyone know what's happening/any info on what the intentions are on people in the hold pool?
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Old 11th Nov 2016, 14:18
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Ea300, hold your horses, keep treading water

The very latest news (today) is that there is no news. Any internal promotions/postings in 2017 will only be generated by part-time applications and retirements, the person processing this info has said this will not be finalised until December.
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Old 11th Nov 2016, 15:33
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Thanks for the info.

So what does that mean for guy like myself?
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Old 11th Nov 2016, 20:10
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There'll be A320 courses for sure, so if you're near the top of the pool then it is just a matter of time. However, reading between the lines from yammer, direct entry long haul may be close to non existent in 2017.
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Old 11th Nov 2016, 20:37
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How long are swimmers waiting before being offered A320 courses at the moment? And is route into the pool a factor? Answers might help to gauge whether I'm near the top too. Thanks
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Old 12th Nov 2016, 06:33
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Or alternatively why not just pick up the phone and ask them?
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Old 12th Nov 2016, 06:44
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They have specifically asked not to do that. Hence why I'm on here.
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Old 12th Nov 2016, 07:03
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Not wishing to contradict you - as obviously you are more aware than I of what you have been told - but I know of at least two people sat in the hold pool right now who have been directly told their status by the recruitment team.
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Old 12th Nov 2016, 07:14
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If you contact the recruitment team they will be able to tell you your number in the pool.
As to when you are are pulled out the pool they probably won't be able to answer or won't commit too.

Rex when you say 'almost non-exsistant long haul recruitment' can you elaborate on what was said at all?
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Old 12th Nov 2016, 07:19
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RexBanner,

Thanks for the info, I/we are expecting an update this month. I will see what they say in that communication first.
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Old 12th Nov 2016, 07:38
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Originally Posted by FlyingTinCans View Post

Rex when you say 'almost non-exsistant long haul recruitment' can you elaborate on what was said at all?
I suspect Rex is hinting at the fact that according to some sources there might be several long haul fleets which are not expecting to take internal transfers to the RHS this coming year. If that is indeed the case like Rex I also suspect there are going to be few if any opportunities for DEP recruitment to those fleets and probably, given internal demand, quite possibly only in house transfers to the few long haul fleets where there are projected vacancies.

FWIW it also looks like some form of normality has returned to the time scale for shorthaul commands.
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Old 12th Nov 2016, 08:06
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I was offered and accepted a short haul position mid last month. I was in the long haul pool but due to circumstances was happy to accept short haul. From what was mentioned it definitely seems as though there will be very few DEP LH offers made. I was swimming for just over 6 months! Good luck to everyone waiting, hopefully it won't be too long.
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Old 12th Nov 2016, 08:21
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Originally Posted by CXKA View Post
Hopefully the update that is expected this month will be a bit more positive re LH.
We'll see, there's always the overiding caveat of training capacity, and behind the scenes costs. OTOH given demand for Long Haul from internal candidates who either missed out last year or who have have exited their freeze periods in the twelve months even if the projected "closed" fleets suddenly have projected vacancies my guess is there will be much less demand/need for DEPs direct to Long Haul.

My best guess if you're in the pool I'd certainly be planning for Shorthaul.

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Old 12th Nov 2016, 09:09
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Short Haul is nowhere near as bad as some on here make out. That's also coming from a commuter.
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Old 12th Nov 2016, 09:38
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There will be no LH DEP recruitment next year.
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Old 12th Nov 2016, 10:00
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Originally Posted by chocolateracer View Post
There will be no LH DEP recruitment next year.
When you say "...no LH DEP recruitment...", do you mean those in the pool will not be offered long haul positions, or there will be no further advertisement for LH openings?

Such a shame if this is the case after all the hype with very large recruitment numbers being banded around the place.

Perhaps they should have advertised for one position as opposed to separate "LH and SH" vacancies.

There's sure to be a large number of disappointed LH swimmers (particularly swimmers hoping to commute) if this news is true.

Thanks for the updates though.

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Old 12th Nov 2016, 10:09
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Regarding timescales to SH commands. I presume this might be due in part to the lack of internal transfer of FO's from SH to LH in 2017. However with the recruitment and LH Airframes arriving from 2018, the sudden requirement for quick SH command upgrades could occur again?!
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Old 12th Nov 2016, 10:33
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It's amazing how quickly things change. It wasn't so long ago that BA were in DXB trying to tempt widebody guys.

Hopefully 2018 is a better year
for LH DE recruitment.
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