BA Direct Entry Pilot.
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? This chap/chap-ess is discussing the pros and cons of BA Direct Entry from their background and experience. And in the vacuum of new developments in the recruitment department, only punctuated by meager speculation here, I can't see it being a bad thing. Meanwhile, feel free to add some useful info of your own instead of using "good luck" as a placeholder for some other less pleasant sentiment.
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The window for the internal bidding process only closed a couple of weeks back, the collated bids are available to those in house so they can make sure their preferences have been correctly recorded.. Once that's been done (end of this month) it will then be down to the long suffering/hard working lady who organisies all this to crunch the numbers, no doubt after umpteen inputs from network planning, etc
Last time I looked the results weren't due to be published until November...sorry if that wasn't the timescale you were hoping for.
Last time I looked the results weren't due to be published until November...sorry if that wasn't the timescale you were hoping for.
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feel free to add some useful info of your own instead of using "good luck" as a placeholder for some other less pleasant sentiment.
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So less chance of BA recruiting direct entry next year.
https://www.l3cts.com/news/2017/l3-a...-upgrade-.html
https://www.l3cts.com/news/2017/l3-a...-upgrade-.html
The bottleneck will be the training department, it may get to a point where they can't cope with getting 150+ newbies onto the line, which is where rated guys & gals near the top of the pool list may be in luck.
I think things are looking bleak for our non-rated friends though...
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Things change very quickly at BA. The latest flying programme snapshot will be published at the end of September. Already 2018 is being talked of as a "busy time" for pilot recruitment, so I would be cautiously optimistic. Good luck all...
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There are so many unknowns at the moment I'm not sure there is any way anybody can offer meaningful predictions...
Yes there's the fleet plan coming up, but there's also the result of the internal move bid, and yes there are a significant number of FPPs waiting in the wings...
On one extreme if in November we find out all the existing Airbus pilots have opted to remain on the short haul fleet then the company might well be visiting the hold pool to find experienced pilots to fill long haul positions.....odds on that extreme event happening is, I suspect , between zero and nil....
If OTOH the long haul slots can be filled by internal movement and there is training capacity to backfill those short haul vacancies with the FPPs then many hold poolers are going to be dissapointed because the company will use the FPPs for the reasons previously mentioned.
The picture might be clearer after the results of the internal bid are known, which AFAIK is not until November...
All I can say is good luck.
Yes there's the fleet plan coming up, but there's also the result of the internal move bid, and yes there are a significant number of FPPs waiting in the wings...
On one extreme if in November we find out all the existing Airbus pilots have opted to remain on the short haul fleet then the company might well be visiting the hold pool to find experienced pilots to fill long haul positions.....odds on that extreme event happening is, I suspect , between zero and nil....
If OTOH the long haul slots can be filled by internal movement and there is training capacity to backfill those short haul vacancies with the FPPs then many hold poolers are going to be dissapointed because the company will use the FPPs for the reasons previously mentioned.
The picture might be clearer after the results of the internal bid are known, which AFAIK is not until November...
All I can say is good luck.
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Busy year for recruitment, no DEP next year, lots of DEP next year, FPP only, SSP cadets, huge amounts of training next year for LH expansion, not enough SH pilots who are unfrozen to fill LH roles, commands gone senior on SH, commands gone junior on SH, A350 not coming, A350s are coming.......777X. I think I have heard all of that in the last few weeks. I don't think anyone knows really and those that do really don't share the information with people in dark corners of the crew room........saying that dark corners of the crew room are full of surprises 😎
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Its impossible to predict anything in aviation, just be ready to take advantage of any opportunities that interest you. In my time I've seen people predict zero recruitment only to have the busiest year ever or commands are 20 years away then suddenly pilots with 2 years in the airline are on command courses. It could happen that the pilots over 55 suddenly decide to retire and enjoy their health and wealth, or a Korean war could end recruitment for years and throw everything in to chaos.
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Here you go
our plan is to carry a small surplus into 2018 predominantly to ease the transition to JSS. Given the complexities of our agreements and the long timescales for pilot recruitment, after a hiatus in recruitment over the summer period, we are looking forward to welcoming the final tranche of FPP graduates over the next few months before recommending external recruitment in earnest in the New Year. We have enjoyed a recuperative year in 2017 and, though we will not complete the detailed work on our 2018 financial plan until October, we can be confident that the next 12 months will be a busy time both within the operation and for pilot recruitment.
our plan is to carry a small surplus into 2018 predominantly to ease the transition to JSS. Given the complexities of our agreements and the long timescales for pilot recruitment, after a hiatus in recruitment over the summer period, we are looking forward to welcoming the final tranche of FPP graduates over the next few months before recommending external recruitment in earnest in the New Year. We have enjoyed a recuperative year in 2017 and, though we will not complete the detailed work on our 2018 financial plan until October, we can be confident that the next 12 months will be a busy time both within the operation and for pilot recruitment.
