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Old 11th Sep 2017, 13:55
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Originally Posted by Enzo999 View Post
It sure is. Considering most of the BALPA reps will be affected I am sure they will fight tooth and nail to minimise any loss to themselves. They are already floating the idea of "improving" the DC scheme, funnily enough over the last 15 years they have never considered fighting for an improved DC scheme untill now, go figure!
Apart from increasing the pensionable pay from 80%to 95 % of pay FOR All, back in 2006. Perhaps distracted by your continual moaning on here about life in BA, you conveniently forgot that Enzo.?
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Old 11th Sep 2017, 14:40
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What heros, increasing something from 80% to 95% that should have been 100% to begin with, and that was 11 years ago. What have they done since other than reducing pay and conditions for all new joiners? What you call moaning is unfortunately the truth as I see it, you are of course welcome to disagree but this is an open forum and people are entilited to voice their opinions no matter how negative.
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Old 11th Sep 2017, 16:29
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Yes, but this is also an anonymous forum, and whilst you are entitled to an opinion; why not pop over to the BALPA forum and put your moaning into a more constructive form, where your name and status isn't hidden behind the keyboard. Or is it just easier to snipe from the sidelines without your opinions being "challenged" ?
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Old 11th Sep 2017, 18:30
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I am more than happy to be "challenged" by anyone on my opinions. In fact I gave BALPA a chance to challenge me just last month when I wrote to them rescinding my 17 year old membership whilst highlighting all the reasons for such a decision. Needless to say their response was not overly challenging, as such my access to said forum is limited (a great loss to my life I am sure).

I am not quite sure I follow your logic regarding the anonymous nature of this forum, is an opinion only valid if it's from an identifiable source? I don't believe any of my comments, feelings or opinions are anything to be ashamed or embarrassed by and I would freely express such views to anyone in person.

Just to be clear not all my posts are negative regarding BA, there are some good points about working there and I have highlighted them as well. But for some people trying to make difficult decisions regarding a possible future career at BA my experiences might well be considered "constructive", if not they are welcome to ignore them.
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Old 14th Sep 2017, 14:20
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I've been having a bit of trouble with my emails - inbound emails either being moved straight to junk (despite being from recognised sources) or not delivered at all. While I'm pretty sure someone would have mentioned it on here, I don't suppose there's been any notice of this web - chat session happening any time soon?

Cheers.
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Old 14th Sep 2017, 14:28
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Just after Corbyn becomes PM
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Old 18th Sep 2017, 13:51
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My guess is that they are waiting for bid results so they then know exactly what they are up against in terms of manpower?

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Old 26th Sep 2017, 09:30
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When should these bid results be out again?
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Old 26th Sep 2017, 09:47
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Usually start of Oct if i'm not mistaken.
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Old 26th Sep 2017, 10:03
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I suspect that's a bit optimistic (by about 3-4 weeks).

Last news on yammer from the person responsible for processing all this was results due out (for internal consumption) in November, but they will try for late October publication date if it is possible.
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Old 26th Sep 2017, 11:15
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Well not too long then. Staying optimistic then!
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Old 29th Sep 2017, 17:40
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I'm still assuming nobody has heard anything more on this online presentation we were promised back in July?
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Old 29th Sep 2017, 19:17
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Because I have to put a certain number of characters into my reply, this is a long winded way of saying...

...no.
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Old 29th Sep 2017, 19:38
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Flight ops have literally just been presented with the operational plan. The manpower plan is is in its infancy as a result. The training managers literally have no idea what next year holds yet.

The 747 that was going next year now isn't, which may create unexpected demand I guess.
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Old 29th Sep 2017, 21:14
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While thatís all good to know, why am I hearing this stuff on an online rumour network, from someone (with greatest respect) who could be anyone saying anything?

The presentation was supposed to make it easier to answer our questions on things like hold pool time (is it an extra year from our original expiry date, the extra 6 months, what?) the additional interview we have to have before joining (is it just a chat & cv update, or pass / fail interrogation like the initial?) and so on.

Our last contact with BA was July. Before that, May. Iím not expecting hour - by - hour bulletins, but some idea of what to expect and most importantly when might have been nice.
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Old 29th Sep 2017, 22:10
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The only explanation I can think of is that BA do not appreciate the time and effort that people put in to the selection process and the emotional investment involved. Probably because they know that if and when they open up the process again to new applications they will be overwhelmed.
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Old 30th Sep 2017, 15:16
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The only explanation I can think of is that BA do not appreciate the time and effort that people put in to the selection process
Umm, TBH that's pretty unfair on some of the individuals involved at the BA end. I'd guess the likes of the former recruitment manager (pilot) who used to pop up here and many of those involved in the recruitment process, many of them pilots, really do appreciate the time and effort involved.

However (as always) at a company level it's all (and I mean everything) governed by the bean counters and I suspect you are right about the level of future applications.
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Old 30th Sep 2017, 23:06
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Sorry I should have worded my post better. I of course refer to corporate BA and not the individuals involved in selection and especially not the pilot recruiters, many of whom I have flown with and whom I have great respect for - and were it up to them I suspect the comms would be better.

However the evidence remains that there seems to be a lack of communication which does suggest an indifference towards the holdpool coming from somewhere.
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Old 30th Sep 2017, 23:48
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However the evidence remains that there seems to be a lack of communication which does suggest an indifference towards the holdpool coming from somewhere.
No argument with that and it shouldn't be like that.

I don't know how the comms side of the DEP recruitment process is/was established. Given ACs attitude to spending a penny on anything deemed none essential I wonder if the job of communicating with the hold pool has simply slipped through the cracks during some establishment change that happened this year.
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Old 2nd Oct 2017, 22:14
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So, in light of the news at Monarch, do we think that anything will be done to help the Monarch guys in the holdpool at BA? Maybe bring them in a tad earlier to keep them in pay?
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