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Old 17th Oct 2017, 22:04
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Originally Posted by GOS View Post
I see the BAFPP has reopened... not feeling particularly optimistic right now.
Commencing training in 2018. Surely we will either have jobs or will have sunk and been consumed by bottom feeders well before this intake even get near to the line.

Clearly they're anticipating the need for further recruitment and with no other FPPs arriving after the planned courses in early 2018, maybe this could even be a positive sign for us (however small)?
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Old 17th Oct 2017, 22:08
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If they commence training in 2018 they’ll be out of the sausage factory at the end of 2019. Around the time some of us were expecting to be perhaps offered a start date. As it is there’s a huge backlog of BAFPP who have had their training pushed back so I’m struggling to see this as a good sign personally.
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Old 17th Oct 2017, 22:39
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Academic requirements lower this time with no requirement for a-levels and it seems the loan underwriting element has vanished.
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Old 17th Oct 2017, 23:09
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Surely those two facts aren't in anyway linked?!
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Old 18th Oct 2017, 02:37
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Don’t anyone in the Holdpool dare to suggest they may be willing to self fund a type rating to put them ahead of the L3 tide. You’d be undermining your future BA colleagues!
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Old 18th Oct 2017, 09:39
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Does this mean that the bid results are in, at a management level at least?
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Old 18th Oct 2017, 09:51
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I think this cadet scheme is evidently being run with a 2019 intake in mind, so how much the results for 2018 are relevant is debatable (perhaps with the exception of the number of part time bids received).

As much as the headline may be depressing for hold poolers, lets not forget that BA have pretty much always had some sort of cadet scheme so nothing much is changing in that respect.
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Old 18th Oct 2017, 10:04
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It isn't a cadet scheme. It's a self-sponsored scheme with the possibility of a BA job at the end.
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Old 18th Oct 2017, 10:32
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I doubt the company will give a hoot how many sign up for it because if they have too many it will not cost them anything. It's in their interest to have too many really. A continual supply of cheap labour, no cost to the company and profit for the FTO. Everyone's a winner.......except for the trainee.
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Old 18th Oct 2017, 11:41
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For what it's worth, that link is no longer valid, and I can find no reference on the L3 website to a live BA scheme of any description...
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Old 18th Oct 2017, 12:00
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If it is a L3 link or lack thereof that is causing doubts then there's another one here that goes to the BA "jobs" site rather than L3 or whatever they are these days.... :

https://jobs.ba.com/jobs/vacancy/bri...8/description/

Given discussion elsewhere there is an assumption it is definitely happening, but TBF I've just taken the plunge and checked and there's no mention of it on the appropriate section of Yammer.....then again it is Yammer....

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Old 18th Oct 2017, 12:20
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Hi wiggy. I would presume they would lease aircraft, just like Monarch's aircraft were leased. They will find a way to get aircraft otherwise why would they be bidding for slots? I am in no doubt that BA/IAG want to take the slots to stop not only further easyJet but also further Norwegian expansion from LGW.
Why would BA need to lease aircraft? I doubt it could get hold of all the Monarch slots but it could get hold of a dozen longhaul 777 hulls very quickly if required to fill the ones it wanted.
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Old 18th Oct 2017, 12:47
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there is an assumption it is definitely happening
Spoke with NS yesterday and it is definitely happening. Apparently AC is desperately keen to enable "disadvantaged" kids to have a chance, so my understanding is that here will be a form of means-tested bonded sponsorship.
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Old 18th Oct 2017, 13:10
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Thanks eckhard..and it just so happens this has just been officially announced on the company Yammer thingy by LS with the link I posted an hour or so ago attached..so that should resolve any lingering doubts about whether this was official or a spoof or not....( it was either check that darned site again or wash the car....).

I see they are still labelling a "Cadet" program, it's a shame about the funding, hope some form of sponsorship can be found....
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Old 18th Oct 2017, 13:21
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I would definitely rather wash the car!
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Old 19th Oct 2017, 09:07
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Latest update this morning. Sounds like we'll have a better idea in a week or two, fingers crossed.
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Old 19th Oct 2017, 09:08
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I'm given to understand that BA will extend applicants in the pool for another year.

Is that true? Can any hold poolers confirm it?
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Old 19th Oct 2017, 09:09
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ETOPS - yes, but whether this is in addition to the extra 6 months they gave us previously is still a mystery.
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Old 19th Oct 2017, 09:33
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While I'm here - I haven't seen the bid results, I really have no idea how things are going to end up for those of you in the pool, I am not trying to send a coded signal, but given the emphasis on the "new" L3 scheme I think we can see BA's long term strategy...

So...personally I'd like to apologise for the way you have been kept floating in the pool.. I don't think the individuals doing the comms with you at BA were at fault, I think they have become victims of the constant flux in planning (both airframe and financial) as much as you have.. but I don't think it should have been managed the way it has been, and I know many of my colleagues are of similar sentiment...

And above all I hope at least some of you get some good news in the near future..
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Old 19th Oct 2017, 10:08
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Originally Posted by ETOPS View Post
I'm given to understand that BA will extend applicants in the pool for another year.

Is that true? Can any hold poolers confirm it?
I have been extended until November 2018. Or do you mean beyond this?
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