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Old 19th Feb 2019, 20:58
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Amsterdam
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Hi!
I have my stage 1 and 2 assessment the 27th of FEB. I was hoping maybe someone can help me out by telling me some more about the assessments or push me in the right diretion to find more information.
So far i have seen that i need to brush up my math skills and that the group assessment can be anything out of a 100 different scenario's. So perhaps someone could tell me something more about the interview? like what was their focus on? what kind of questions can i expect? or pretty much anyting you like to share.
Would be very much appreciated! please feel free to pm me.
Cheers,

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Old 20th Feb 2019, 07:20
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Join Date: Apr 2013
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In my not particularly recent (roughly 5 years ago) experience, the information here is accurate. Although, as I understand it, they've reduced the amount of aptitude/PILAPT testing.
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Old 20th Feb 2019, 16:06
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Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: United Kingdom
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Does anyone know how long it takes for them to reply after the Stage 1/2 stage? I did this recently and haven't heard anything... i heard rumour some time ago that a selection team meet each Friday?
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 10:32
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Join Date: Feb 2019
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Originally Posted by Percula View Post
Has anyone heard back from yesterdays stage 2 assessment?
I did a stage 2 a few weeks ago and am still in the dark

Does anyone know if the rejection is an email or a lettter?
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 13:02
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Originally Posted by Percula View Post
Has anyone heard back from yesterdays stage 2 assessment?
hello, not yet for me.
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Old 22nd Feb 2019, 13:35
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Join Date: Jan 2014
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I have accepted an offer on to SH, moving from my current employer means that with flying pay and allowances, I'll more than double my salary overnight.

As I'll be bottom of the seniority pile, I am under no illusions that I will take what is given to me and ask no questions. Surely this is the attitude that all new joiners to any job, in any industry should take? Keep your head down and get settled in.

I'll also be commuting which many have said to me will be difficult/frustrating/impossible. Again, I'm aware of the implications of this however the benefits/drawbacks of commuting versus the move and facing the M4/M25 I believe are offset (some may beg to differ here). There are a number of people who commute on SH who I have spoken to and they seem happy with the lifestyle they have.

Would anyone care to shoot me down on the above?
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Old 22nd Feb 2019, 13:44
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Originally Posted by rossbaku View Post
I have accepted an offer on to SH, moving from my current employer means that with flying pay and allowances, I'll more than double my salary overnight.

As I'll be bottom of the seniority pile, I am under no illusions that I will take what is given to me and ask no questions. Surely this is the attitude that all new joiners to any job, in any industry should take? Keep your head down and get settled in.

I'll also be commuting which many have said to me will be difficult/frustrating/impossible. Again, I'm aware of the implications of this however the benefits/drawbacks of commuting versus the move and facing the M4/M25 I believe are offset (some may beg to differ here). There are a number of people who commute on SH who I have spoken to and they seem happy with the lifestyle they have.

Would anyone care to shoot me down on the above?
may I ask your previous employer?
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Old 22nd Feb 2019, 13:47
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Originally Posted by Riskybis View Post


may I ask your previous employer?
Not until I've left, although I will say that I don't have to commute for my current job.
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Old 22nd Feb 2019, 19:59
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I think you’ll enjoy the first 12 months no matter what. After that will depend on a positive attitude until you get through your freeze period .
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Old 23rd Feb 2019, 03:01
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Has anyone been fortunate enough to have been offered both long and short haul when called? For example 320 LGW or 777. Both would have advantages in terms of career and lifestyle so would be a toss up between the two. Been on longhaul in current job which I enjoy however have a young family and the fatigue can get pretty bad. At BA Itís a discussion regarding 20 years to command on longhaul, being away a lot over most wknds compared to shorthaul out of LGW which as I understand it is not as hectic as LHR and offers more potential time at home whilst career wise getting really competent on the aircraft and a possible early command. Thoughts?!
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Old 23rd Feb 2019, 06:26
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Has anyone been fortunate enough to have been offered both long and short haul when called? For example 320 LGW or 777
Not sure if that happens, be interesting to know.

Anyhow while we wait for an answer - I assume you realise that by accepting the 777 position you are not locking yourself out of shorthaul and/or LGW forever?

As it stands at the moment you could join on Longhaul, learn about the reality of the “BA way” from the inside, and then at the end of you engagement freeze if you still really desire a LGW 320 position you could bid to move, probably direct into the Left seat by way of a command conversion.

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Old 23rd Feb 2019, 06:33
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Good point Wiggy, thanks.
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Old 23rd Feb 2019, 11:01
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My Recommendation? Don't go to BA period; LH or SH they are both equally crappy compared to just about any other semi reputable airline out there. BA at this point is nothing more than a Legacy Low Cost Airline with worse TC's than the actual Low Cost Airlines...
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Old 23rd Feb 2019, 12:09
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Originally Posted by Doppio View Post
My Recommendation? Don't go to BA period; LH or SH they are both equally crappy compared to just about any other semi reputable airline out there. BA at this point is nothing more than a Legacy Low Cost Airline with worse TC's than the actual Low Cost Airlines...
Which are these low cost airlines with better Ts&Cs exactly? I see some merit to the EZY arguement but I can't think of a single other one with comparable terms. Have you ever worked for a LOCO - the headline figures re money tend to be misleading. I'm not saying things couldnt be better at BA but I think its unfair to put off prospective joiners with false information.
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Old 23rd Feb 2019, 12:55
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: UK
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Jet2? Time to Command quick with the right experience, basic of £106k as opposed to the £75k at BA as a year 2 or 3 Captain. Jet2 annual around 600-700 hours, BA 850+

BA have fallen behind I'm afraid, and I see recruitment being difficult for them without some changes...
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Old 23rd Feb 2019, 14:29
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even Ryanair, dare i say it.

20k command upgrade bonus.

125k for 800 hours.

Plus many downsides too
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Old 23rd Feb 2019, 15:48
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No LoCo (or any other airline for that matter) has 21 days of consecutive SBY periods several times a year, instead they do offer a fixed roster pattern.
Pensions are the same pretty much all over ever since BARP became the norm, but yet LoCo's offer so much more money from day 1 that BA pilots on a 34(!) year payscale will NEVER catch up on career earnings.
So I guess the only thing BA does have in it's favour is Staff Travel; if you still have the energy left to want to take advantage of that after doing 90+ hour months...

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Old 23rd Feb 2019, 15:50
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Join Date: May 2016
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Ryanair have been public enemy number 1 on this forum for a decade or more. Many view them as the instigators of the rot in the industry.

It's amazing that in 2019 one has to consider Ryanair as an alternative to a career at BA; that's the real choice those of us outside BA are faced with!

The optimists will say things are finally improving at Ryanair, the pessimists will say that BA dropped the ball. I'm not sure who is right, but it is what it is as they say.

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Old 23rd Feb 2019, 15:56
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Join Date: Apr 2017
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Originally Posted by clvf88 View Post
Which are these low cost airlines with better Ts&Cs exactly? I see some merit to the EZY arguement but I can't think of a single other one with comparable terms. Have you ever worked for a LOCO - the headline figures re money tend to be misleading. I'm not saying things couldnt be better at BA but I think its unfair to put off prospective joiners with false information.
In answer to your first question; All of them in terms of salary, schedule and total hours flown.

In answer to your second; I've left BA for Ryanair, literally doubling my salary and getting my health and family life back in the process.
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Old 23rd Feb 2019, 16:06
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Originally Posted by GE115b View Post
Ryanair have been public enemy number 1 on this forum for a decade or more. Many view them as the instigators of the rot in the industry,

It's amazing that in 2019 one has to consider Ryanair as an alternative to a career at BA; that's the real choice those of outside BA are faced with!

The optimists will say things are finally improving at Ryanair, the pessimists will say that BA dropped the ball. I'm not sure who is right, but it is what it is as they say.
The rot in the industry was not instigated by any one Company but by the bonus driven Management of all Airlines. And if it hadn't been for the active cooperation of Unions in combination with the silent approval of most senior pilots (who by the way are still showing up to their SIM checks in Aston Martin's) none of this would have come to pass.
BA didn't drop the ball; they ran with it after our senior colleagues did...
The only reason Ryanair is now a better deal than BA is because of concerted strike action by the guys that were here before I came along.

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