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Old 14th Aug 2017, 18:36
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Think of all that extra flight pay at Qatar as you have to fly round the ME region just to get in and out ;-)
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Old 14th Aug 2017, 20:45
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Originally Posted by anson harris View Post
As my Mother used to say "don't come crying to me". No whining when you get to Qatar, ok?!
Maybe your mother should have taught you to come across as a bit less of a ? This chap/chap-ess is discussing the pros and cons of BA Direct Entry from their background and experience. And in the vacuum of new developments in the recruitment department, only punctuated by meager speculation here, I can't see it being a bad thing. Meanwhile, feel free to add some useful info of your own instead of using "good luck" as a placeholder for some other less pleasant sentiment.
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Old 16th Aug 2017, 13:21
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Anyone heard anymore about internal bids?
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Old 16th Aug 2017, 13:27
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The window for the internal bidding process only closed a couple of weeks back, the collated bids are available to those in house so they can make sure their preferences have been correctly recorded.. Once that's been done (end of this month) it will then be down to the long suffering/hard working lady who organisies all this to crunch the numbers, no doubt after umpteen inputs from network planning, etc

Last time I looked the results weren't due to be published until November...sorry if that wasn't the timescale you were hoping for.

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Old 16th Aug 2017, 14:24
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feel free to add some useful info of your own instead of using "good luck" as a placeholder for some other less pleasant sentiment.
You can feel free to be less pessimistic about what people mean when expressing sentiments on an online forum. FWIW, I actually meant it... But then again, this is PPRuNe, perhaps I should add "for real" after I say anything nice. The point I am making is that PPRuNe is full of people who seek advice/validation/whatever about going to the ME. They never listen (I am guilty as charged) and are invariably back to complain about it. I would say that was something useful to consider.
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Old 16th Aug 2017, 16:29
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Anyone in the pool has recevid details for this online presentation we should be given soon...
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Old 17th Aug 2017, 18:59
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Nope nothing yet
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Old 18th Aug 2017, 14:54
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I get the feeling we aren't at the top of the priorities list
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Old 18th Aug 2017, 17:27
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Are we on any list?!
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Old 18th Aug 2017, 19:30
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The one in the bin?
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Old 23rd Aug 2017, 11:07
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Has anyone managed to ascertain what our actual time in the pool is now? I.e - the original year + 6 months + extra year = 2.5 years?
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Old 23rd Aug 2017, 11:24
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I emailed that question the day we got the email with no reply.
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Old 1st Sep 2017, 11:57
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I wonder how many in the hold pool will just see this as a non starter now and either look at other airlines or stay for upgrades at current one.
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Old 1st Sep 2017, 12:11
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No DEP for the longhaul side or internal moves only?
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Old 1st Sep 2017, 15:12
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Originally Posted by AIMINGHIGH123 View Post
So less chance of BA recruiting direct entry next year.

Clearly why they are forecasting no DEP recruitment next year. Cadets are cheaper - they come without experience!

The bottleneck will be the training department, it may get to a point where they can't cope with getting 150+ newbies onto the line, which is where rated guys & gals near the top of the pool list may be in luck.

I think things are looking bleak for our non-rated friends though...
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Old 1st Sep 2017, 16:48
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Things change very quickly at BA. The latest flying programme snapshot will be published at the end of September. Already 2018 is being talked of as a "busy time" for pilot recruitment, so I would be cautiously optimistic. Good luck all...
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Old 1st Sep 2017, 17:35
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"A busy time for recruitment..,"

Yep, they've got 150-odd fATPL cadets to administer.
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Old 1st Sep 2017, 18:18
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There are so many unknowns at the moment I'm not sure there is any way anybody can offer meaningful predictions...

Yes there's the fleet plan coming up, but there's also the result of the internal move bid, and yes there are a significant number of FPPs waiting in the wings...

On one extreme if in November we find out all the existing Airbus pilots have opted to remain on the short haul fleet then the company might well be visiting the hold pool to find experienced pilots to fill long haul positions.....odds on that extreme event happening is, I suspect , between zero and nil....

If OTOH the long haul slots can be filled by internal movement and there is training capacity to backfill those short haul vacancies with the FPPs then many hold poolers are going to be dissapointed because the company will use the FPPs for the reasons previously mentioned.

The picture might be clearer after the results of the internal bid are known, which AFAIK is not until November...

All I can say is good luck.

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Old 1st Sep 2017, 18:32
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Busy year for recruitment, no DEP next year, lots of DEP next year, FPP only, SSP cadets, huge amounts of training next year for LH expansion, not enough SH pilots who are unfrozen to fill LH roles, commands gone senior on SH, commands gone junior on SH, A350 not coming, A350s are coming.......777X. I think I have heard all of that in the last few weeks. I don't think anyone knows really and those that do really don't share the information with people in dark corners of the crew room........saying that dark corners of the crew room are full of surprises 😎
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Old 2nd Sep 2017, 09:55
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Its impossible to predict anything in aviation, just be ready to take advantage of any opportunities that interest you. In my time I've seen people predict zero recruitment only to have the busiest year ever or commands are 20 years away then suddenly pilots with 2 years in the airline are on command courses. It could happen that the pilots over 55 suddenly decide to retire and enjoy their health and wealth, or a Korean war could end recruitment for years and throw everything in to chaos.
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