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Irresponsable and lost in their own administration
As far as I know the UPRT training started from October 2022 when the school received a brand new aircraft for UPRT (ZLIN Z 242 L). Everyone was also informed about when the aircraft arrives and it was announced on the schools facebook etc itd. Since October the UPRT training is done in 1 day (if weather permits remember its winter now) and already over 200 students completed it as far as I know.
So if you did not recieve UPRT traning I would recommend contacting the school not writing here and you will be flying tomorrow or first day with proper weather. If you are not flying its because 1. You did not contact the school or 2. You are not a student but some other flightschool who just want to complain since almost no school in Poland got a brand new UPRT aircraft and give JOC on A320 SIM as bonus to the UPRT. So if your school can not provide the training then dont pretend you are a student because as far as I can see from the flightlogger system everyone who want to fly UPRT get it the first day weather permits since October.
Also for people outside of school (no flightlogger) you can see people who finished UPRT on facebook or instagram with names and pictures and the amount of them. Real students finishing the course, not other schools who do not got the aircraft for it. You can also come to the school on a good weather day if you are lucky and come in the morning you will fly the same day.
So if you did not recieve UPRT traning I would recommend contacting the school not writing here and you will be flying tomorrow or first day with proper weather. If you are not flying its because 1. You did not contact the school or 2. You are not a student but some other flightschool who just want to complain since almost no school in Poland got a brand new UPRT aircraft and give JOC on A320 SIM as bonus to the UPRT. So if your school can not provide the training then dont pretend you are a student because as far as I can see from the flightlogger system everyone who want to fly UPRT get it the first day weather permits since October.
Also for people outside of school (no flightlogger) you can see people who finished UPRT on facebook or instagram with names and pictures and the amount of them. Real students finishing the course, not other schools who do not got the aircraft for it. You can also come to the school on a good weather day if you are lucky and come in the morning you will fly the same day.
This is again the proof of your own unprofessionalism you don’t even know who is your student which of course is normal the only thing you know is receiving the money.
First,I will be happy showing you all the email that have been sent since November (hey we are in the end of January ) contacting you to provide a 2 day training ( yes,I don’t only accuse, I prove it materially)
Second, since this person in this forum seems to always neglect the advices of the costumers and the feedbacks and what people say, I have a voice record of their behaviour and more proof (emails and sms…) of their unprofessionalism hit me in pm so I will more happy to share it and I’ll share it in all social medias available to orientate the people. (Yes i was preparing to sue them if They didn’t provide the training.(which have not been provided)
Third, I’ll be sure that all the CAA and all authorities involved will be aware of your behaviour which are faaaar from the standards professionally and aeronautically.
One of the RED FLAGS is providing a training without a contract (it is a big red flag that I should be aware of since the beginning)
Last but not least I assure you any student from my country and in the European Union will put a feet in your school.
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@Flyingsailor93 First of all I am not any employee of the school. I have a private company doing B2B stuff. But since cooperation I do actually have access to the flightlogger system so I do know that real students get their training done.
So if you are a real student where did you send the e-mail to what address since November? Because there is absolutely no e-mail with someone askin for UPRT training who did not get it and the aircraft is standing there not used a lot of the time, do you think its earning money standing still in periods with good weather ?
Its just another example of mudslinging from other schools, because I can literally see who is available for training and sent mail. The last person who asked for UPRT was a woman on 05.01.2023. So where did you send your mail?
So if you are a real student where did you send the e-mail to what address since November? Because there is absolutely no e-mail with someone askin for UPRT training who did not get it and the aircraft is standing there not used a lot of the time, do you think its earning money standing still in periods with good weather ?
Its just another example of mudslinging from other schools, because I can literally see who is available for training and sent mail. The last person who asked for UPRT was a woman on 05.01.2023. So where did you send your mail?
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@Flyingsailor93 First of all I am not any employee of the school. I have a private company doing B2B stuff. But since cooperation I do actually have access to the flightlogger system so I do know that real students get their training done.
So if you are a real student where did you send the e-mail to what address since November? Because there is absolutely no e-mail with someone askin for UPRT training who did not get it and the aircraft is standing there not used a lot of the time, do you think its earning money standing still in periods with good weather ?
It’s just another example of mudslinging from other schools, because I can literally see who is available for training and sent mail. The last person who asked for UPRT was a woman on 05.01.2023. So where did you send your mail?
So if you are a real student where did you send the e-mail to what address since November? Because there is absolutely no e-mail with someone askin for UPRT training who did not get it and the aircraft is standing there not used a lot of the time, do you think its earning money standing still in periods with good weather ?
It’s just another example of mudslinging from other schools, because I can literally see who is available for training and sent mail. The last person who asked for UPRT was a woman on 05.01.2023. So where did you send your mail?
But a commercial and an organisational advise: what You should do is fix your behaviour and attitude and customer service to not have a bad review on a forum (by the way why aren’t you on Google maps so we can see the general public reviews too?
The European Union is a very small place the reputation of your school or whatever school in the space will travel faster than light. People talk, costumers talk and I assure you the bad reputation of your school due to your behaviour (Bartek… yes everybody know you are behind this account) by the way you need some CRM classes and a class on “how you deal with people politely” and a class on “have some manner” and a class on “doing a briefing before going to fly” (are you sure you are a professional Pilot as you mention it? ).
Furthermore, “ato@goldwings” , do you want me to put you the phone number of all your flight instructors, yes I do have access on the flightlogger. Do you want me to forward you all the emails I have sent just to be programmed to do a 2 days training?
Yeah my request of UPRT was since November 2nd. Maybe if you get into your accounts you will see a bank transfers labelled UPRT training that day? Ah you won’t find it because you have scammed so many people you get lost in accounts…
Again, I do have integrity and respect to not lie (maybe Bartek needs a reminder about discipline,integrity and respect)
And I’m assuring you you will hear me when the time comes when you will have the visit of inspectors, and the seizure of respective CAA and finish on TV there you will understand the gravity of this matter.
it’s enough you keep scamming people and getting away with it.
Another reminder think about making training contracts when you provide a training every single flight school do that because they respect their engagement a non existence of a training make it blury).
For your information I’m not the random student you will scam and get away with it.
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@Flyingsailor93: First of all if you look at the Polish forum or even in this very forum every single Polish school from EPBC (Babice) got mud slinged at it. Its because its like 4 schools at same airport. BTW Goldwings also provide training in Kraków at EPKP (Pobiednik) airport and by some strange coincidence no one on any forum was ever unhappy with that ( no other school there).
If you look at my previous posts you will see that I am not the boss of the school, I believe he do not even watch or read the forum. Once did an Instructor reply to a real student in this topic because I informed the school that it looks like a real student with a name and because the student was unhappy with actually the best Instructor I was ever instructed by.
As for the e-mail adress, if you are another school then congratulations you found the old address to the office/reception guy who changed jobs in October. This address have never ever been used to send availability to. That is why no one (or possibly the new reception guy but missed it) ever saw your e-mail IF you are a real student.
I can not believe a real student would not check the main page of the flightlogger with big information: "Good day. I inform that from today I will be doing the schedule. We have created a special account to which information and requests ********atgoldwingsdotpl should be sent from today. All information about the schedule is only transmitted via the internet." This information is in flightlogger on the main page since 14.09.2019 and the ato address have never ever been used for scheduling. I can not believe a real student would keep sending the mail to the wrong address and never call the school or check the flightlogger system.
PS. If you are a real student (I can not believe it since then you would probably call the school or check if you are sending the mail to the proper address) then maybe log in the flightlogger read the address and send the e-mail so you can get your training immediately. No one is interested in the aircraft not being used by students because it does not earn money by standing there. If you are some other school then good luck with trying to rent UPRT aircraft and being able to provide the training
If you look at my previous posts you will see that I am not the boss of the school, I believe he do not even watch or read the forum. Once did an Instructor reply to a real student in this topic because I informed the school that it looks like a real student with a name and because the student was unhappy with actually the best Instructor I was ever instructed by.
As for the e-mail adress, if you are another school then congratulations you found the old address to the office/reception guy who changed jobs in October. This address have never ever been used to send availability to. That is why no one (or possibly the new reception guy but missed it) ever saw your e-mail IF you are a real student.
I can not believe a real student would not check the main page of the flightlogger with big information: "Good day. I inform that from today I will be doing the schedule. We have created a special account to which information and requests ********atgoldwingsdotpl should be sent from today. All information about the schedule is only transmitted via the internet." This information is in flightlogger on the main page since 14.09.2019 and the ato address have never ever been used for scheduling. I can not believe a real student would keep sending the mail to the wrong address and never call the school or check the flightlogger system.
PS. If you are a real student (I can not believe it since then you would probably call the school or check if you are sending the mail to the proper address) then maybe log in the flightlogger read the address and send the e-mail so you can get your training immediately. No one is interested in the aircraft not being used by students because it does not earn money by standing there. If you are some other school then good luck with trying to rent UPRT aircraft and being able to provide the training
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By all means and available ways I encourage everyone who ever hears about this crap, which is Goldwings Aviation Academy, to AVOID them and pass the message on. I was unlucky and not diligent enough to make a research before applying for a training with them. I really should have watched all those negative comments about goldwings since 2016 and make conclusions. All in all, I am another witness of their extremely disgusting approach and treating students. All mentioned above is 1000000% TRUE in terms of absolute disrespect and impolite attitude. I signed up for a module, which takes normally about 3-4 days to complete. And initially the head of training Jesionek told me the same. Eventually it took me weeks to complete, even though the weather conditions were favorable. During those days awaiting for my flight it seemed that nobody gave a f%ck of how and when the flight should be planned. You constantly have to show up and almost beg them to be so kind to assign a flight for you. Moreover, no pre-flight briefing when flying with that Bartek, which is a totally arrogant, impolite and disrespectful to people. Shouting at students and cursing them during the flight, trying to show them how miserable they are.
I repeat, no pre-flight briefing, is that a sign of professional???
And if you, Jesionek, reading this, keep in mind that if you don't undergo a special training on how to be polite and respectful to people that you don't know, then one day you will definitely meet a fist into your face, and probably that someone will change your vision of how the neutral attitude to peope should look like.
Congratulations, goldwings, you got one more negative feedback and obviously you should do something to change the image and reputation of your organisation. As someone mentioned above, EU is not that big, and flight community is even smaller. Once again mates, stay vigilant and avoid making my mistakes and mistakes of many who already left their comments about their experiences since 2016.
I repeat, no pre-flight briefing, is that a sign of professional???
And if you, Jesionek, reading this, keep in mind that if you don't undergo a special training on how to be polite and respectful to people that you don't know, then one day you will definitely meet a fist into your face, and probably that someone will change your vision of how the neutral attitude to peope should look like.
Congratulations, goldwings, you got one more negative feedback and obviously you should do something to change the image and reputation of your organisation. As someone mentioned above, EU is not that big, and flight community is even smaller. Once again mates, stay vigilant and avoid making my mistakes and mistakes of many who already left their comments about their experiences since 2016.
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@Enthusiast777: Did you change nickname because it was too "special" to believe a student never saw where to send the e-mail or never called why the e-mail is not received? So now you say you completed the training but it took a long time to complete and you had to show up to get a flight?
IF you were a real student did you not try sending the e-mail to the correct address being pasted on flightlogger frontpage? The scheduling e-mails are received on Thursday preceding the week when people want to fly (if there are free slots as most often also people who send their availability later are scheduled). And everyone is getting planned. But ofc if someone never send the mail, the week is fully planned and someone show up on Monday and say "I wanna fly please give me a flight now" then the school will not kick out people who sent the mail from their slots they will also not make the instructor be available when he is not. So probably they wanted to do you a favor and give you a flight when the aircraft was available, the only Instructor who might have time like randomly without pre planning and can do every kind of instructing is Captain Jesionek so that is why you probably got a flight with him.
And Captain Jesionek does usually only teach people for IR/ME, CPL(A) or UPRT that he select, in order to teach them something more because he know they will benefit from the lesson. For the students who hold a CPL(A) BUT are clueless about flying there are other instructors, but of course if someone who did not send their availability came to the school and insisted to fly then maybe he wanted to do a favor a went with a random not scheduled student I have no idea. Captain Jesionek is not an instructor who is normally instructing random students the school got a lot of other instructors that teach the very basics, who also understand why someone at the end of the training (previous training done at other school) does not know basics about flying and would crash if sent on PIC solo flight.
Once again IF there is any real student and not other flight school complaining then the only way to not get scheduled is 1. Not sending the e-mail to the correct address (99 % of cases) 2. Some very rare scenario where aircraft is in for maintenance that take more than a week (1% of cases) but then they get priority slot next week......
BTW the only time an instructor from Goldwings read this topic was when a real student with a real name complained about a real Instructor. And the case got an answer only because I informed the instructor about it.
IF you were a real student did you not try sending the e-mail to the correct address being pasted on flightlogger frontpage? The scheduling e-mails are received on Thursday preceding the week when people want to fly (if there are free slots as most often also people who send their availability later are scheduled). And everyone is getting planned. But ofc if someone never send the mail, the week is fully planned and someone show up on Monday and say "I wanna fly please give me a flight now" then the school will not kick out people who sent the mail from their slots they will also not make the instructor be available when he is not. So probably they wanted to do you a favor and give you a flight when the aircraft was available, the only Instructor who might have time like randomly without pre planning and can do every kind of instructing is Captain Jesionek so that is why you probably got a flight with him.
And Captain Jesionek does usually only teach people for IR/ME, CPL(A) or UPRT that he select, in order to teach them something more because he know they will benefit from the lesson. For the students who hold a CPL(A) BUT are clueless about flying there are other instructors, but of course if someone who did not send their availability came to the school and insisted to fly then maybe he wanted to do a favor a went with a random not scheduled student I have no idea. Captain Jesionek is not an instructor who is normally instructing random students the school got a lot of other instructors that teach the very basics, who also understand why someone at the end of the training (previous training done at other school) does not know basics about flying and would crash if sent on PIC solo flight.
Once again IF there is any real student and not other flight school complaining then the only way to not get scheduled is 1. Not sending the e-mail to the correct address (99 % of cases) 2. Some very rare scenario where aircraft is in for maintenance that take more than a week (1% of cases) but then they get priority slot next week......
BTW the only time an instructor from Goldwings read this topic was when a real student with a real name complained about a real Instructor. And the case got an answer only because I informed the instructor about it.
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For your reference, I was a real student in that crap school which you are advocating, and the only one whou should change the nickname is you, for sth. like "goldwingsProtector" or whatever of that kind.
I placed availability one week ahead and clearly mentioned that I am very flexible and available for a flight anytime.
Anyway, the only thing you can say to support goldwings is that everybody posting about their negative and ****ty experiences are guys from other flight schools. Nothing new in your techniques.
I am pretty sure that the number of people posting precautionary messages to avoid goldwings will only increase with time.
And also keep in mind that there is no any other school in Poland, who got as many negative feedbacks as goldwings. Btw, a good question above, why isn't goldwings listed on google maps?
Isn't it because you are concerned that the number of crap reviews will become even larger? All in all, as said before, I will try to do my best to let as many people as possible know that they should stay away from so-called "academy".
I placed availability one week ahead and clearly mentioned that I am very flexible and available for a flight anytime.
Anyway, the only thing you can say to support goldwings is that everybody posting about their negative and ****ty experiences are guys from other flight schools. Nothing new in your techniques.
I am pretty sure that the number of people posting precautionary messages to avoid goldwings will only increase with time.
And also keep in mind that there is no any other school in Poland, who got as many negative feedbacks as goldwings. Btw, a good question above, why isn't goldwings listed on google maps?
Isn't it because you are concerned that the number of crap reviews will become even larger? All in all, as said before, I will try to do my best to let as many people as possible know that they should stay away from so-called "academy".
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@Entusiast777: Well the amount of happy people are like 99,9 % so when suddenly some strange stuff appear its most likely a fired employee or another school from same airport. Only once there was someone who looked like real student and got an answer from the Instructor.
IF there are real people who are unhappy its 1. They can not accept they have to actually put effort into learning to fly or 2. They do not read messages and information (most often making them appear in point 1 and point 2 simultaneously) like that UPRT aircraft was available from October 2022 or about where to send the e-mail.
I just know how the school works and that everyone who for real want to learn to fly not only get the printed license is happy at the school. I do also know that people who send the mail with availability get their slots because I can see it and the aircraft only earn money if they fly so no one is interested in aircraft standing idle.
But if someone do only wish to get quickly their license paper printed without learning anything, and especially if someone dislike honesty and would like to be told they are great and gonna get immediate spot at the airlines etc itd. Then please apply to some other school at EPBC you will be so happy until you try to become instructor or go for the airlines. Only try Goldwings if you for real want to learn to fly and get honest feedback about how you are doing.
PS. Goldwings students and instructors (who complete the whole training or most of it at Goldwings) get airline jobs very many of them. Real people with pictures and names everywhere from Sprint Air, Enter Air, LOT Polish Airlines, Wizzair to Ryan Air. Some also get hired at business jet operators. You can check that they are all real with pictures and real names. Please ask at the other schools at EPBC, (they will tell you everyone gets to the airline ofc.) and ask them for some real people who you can see. From Goldwings you can see endless list on facebook page of real people with pictures and names. BUT it require effort and not everyone gets there, effortless training "everything is perfect" makes people unable to even get solo PIC flight without safety pilot not to mention becoming Instructor or getting an airline job. So if you need the license only without any effort please do not even consider Goldwings you will be unhappy. But if you really want to do an effort and learn to fly plus can accept feedback about what is wrong not only positive feedback then its the place you should consider.
IF there are real people who are unhappy its 1. They can not accept they have to actually put effort into learning to fly or 2. They do not read messages and information (most often making them appear in point 1 and point 2 simultaneously) like that UPRT aircraft was available from October 2022 or about where to send the e-mail.
I just know how the school works and that everyone who for real want to learn to fly not only get the printed license is happy at the school. I do also know that people who send the mail with availability get their slots because I can see it and the aircraft only earn money if they fly so no one is interested in aircraft standing idle.
But if someone do only wish to get quickly their license paper printed without learning anything, and especially if someone dislike honesty and would like to be told they are great and gonna get immediate spot at the airlines etc itd. Then please apply to some other school at EPBC you will be so happy until you try to become instructor or go for the airlines. Only try Goldwings if you for real want to learn to fly and get honest feedback about how you are doing.
PS. Goldwings students and instructors (who complete the whole training or most of it at Goldwings) get airline jobs very many of them. Real people with pictures and names everywhere from Sprint Air, Enter Air, LOT Polish Airlines, Wizzair to Ryan Air. Some also get hired at business jet operators. You can check that they are all real with pictures and real names. Please ask at the other schools at EPBC, (they will tell you everyone gets to the airline ofc.) and ask them for some real people who you can see. From Goldwings you can see endless list on facebook page of real people with pictures and names. BUT it require effort and not everyone gets there, effortless training "everything is perfect" makes people unable to even get solo PIC flight without safety pilot not to mention becoming Instructor or getting an airline job. So if you need the license only without any effort please do not even consider Goldwings you will be unhappy. But if you really want to do an effort and learn to fly plus can accept feedback about what is wrong not only positive feedback then its the place you should consider.
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For your reference, I was a real student in that crap school which you are advocating, and the only one whou should change the nickname is you, for sth. like "goldwingsProtector" or whatever of that kind.
I placed availability one week ahead and clearly mentioned that I am very flexible and available for a flight anytime.
Anyway, the only thing you can say to support goldwings is that everybody posting about their negative and ****ty experiences are guys from other flight schools. Nothing new in your techniques.
I am pretty sure that the number of people posting precautionary messages to avoid goldwings will only increase with time.
And also keep in mind that there is no any other school in Poland, who got as many negative feedbacks as goldwings. Btw, a good question above, why isn't goldwings listed on google maps?
Isn't it because you are concerned that the number of crap reviews will become even larger? All in all, as said before, I will try to do my best to let as many people as possible know that they should stay away from so-called "academy".
I placed availability one week ahead and clearly mentioned that I am very flexible and available for a flight anytime.
Anyway, the only thing you can say to support goldwings is that everybody posting about their negative and ****ty experiences are guys from other flight schools. Nothing new in your techniques.
I am pretty sure that the number of people posting precautionary messages to avoid goldwings will only increase with time.
And also keep in mind that there is no any other school in Poland, who got as many negative feedbacks as goldwings. Btw, a good question above, why isn't goldwings listed on google maps?
Isn't it because you are concerned that the number of crap reviews will become even larger? All in all, as said before, I will try to do my best to let as many people as possible know that they should stay away from so-called "academy".
called “Loty widokowe Warszawa”
https://maps.app.goo.gl/2cFVaeRPEvuBBnq36?g_st=ic
and apparently even people who wanted to do discovery flight have the same feeling…
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@Flyingsailor93: One review of someone unhappy..... but wait a moment in other comment they write that the flights are performed by the local Aeroclub and/or by some other flight school. So no one does even know who the person was unhappy with. Also once upon a time there was a person with a voucher from other flight school at EPBC who had to be explained that she bought it from the other school because she claimed that she was supposed to have a flight.
There are 4 flight schools at EPBC + aeroclub, and for sightseeing flights there are often people who come to the entrance to the airport and claim they gonna fly and paid for it, but the problem is that they paid to some other school that does not have their office right at the entrance..... Once again no one is interested in aircraft standing idle and Goldwings sightseeing aircraft fly as often as possible when there are people who wish to fly and who have booked the flight with Goldwings not with some other school.
Oh and in EPKP in Kraków there are also sightseeing flights + training for students. By some miracle no one have ever been unhappy with it..... might it have something to do with no other flightschool operating from there (just the aeroclub) I just wonder.... once again the only real students who might be unhappy with Goldwings are people who only wish to get the license without any effort and who also wish to only get positive feedback.... later on such people wonder why no airline wish to have them and no one want to hire them as instructor or even send on a solo PIC flight..... Please if someone only wish to get the license without any effort pick some other school.
There are 4 flight schools at EPBC + aeroclub, and for sightseeing flights there are often people who come to the entrance to the airport and claim they gonna fly and paid for it, but the problem is that they paid to some other school that does not have their office right at the entrance..... Once again no one is interested in aircraft standing idle and Goldwings sightseeing aircraft fly as often as possible when there are people who wish to fly and who have booked the flight with Goldwings not with some other school.
Oh and in EPKP in Kraków there are also sightseeing flights + training for students. By some miracle no one have ever been unhappy with it..... might it have something to do with no other flightschool operating from there (just the aeroclub) I just wonder.... once again the only real students who might be unhappy with Goldwings are people who only wish to get the license without any effort and who also wish to only get positive feedback.... later on such people wonder why no airline wish to have them and no one want to hire them as instructor or even send on a solo PIC flight..... Please if someone only wish to get the license without any effort pick some other school.
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@Flyingsailor93: One review of someone unhappy..... but wait a moment in other comment they write that the flights are performed by the local Aeroclub and/or by some other flight school. So no one does even know who the person was unhappy with. Also once upon a time there was a person with a voucher from other flight school at EPBC who had to be explained that she bought it from the other school because she claimed that she was supposed to have a flight.
There are 4 flight schools at EPBC + aeroclub, and for sightseeing flights there are often people who come to the entrance to the airport and claim they gonna fly and paid for it, but the problem is that they paid to some other school that does not have their office right at the entrance..... Once again no one is interested in aircraft standing idle and Goldwings sightseeing aircraft fly as often as possible when there are people who wish to fly and who have booked the flight with Goldwings not with some other school.
Oh and in EPKP in Kraków there are also sightseeing flights + training for students. By some miracle no one have ever been unhappy with it..... might it have something to do with no other flightschool operating from there (just the aeroclub) I just wonder.... once again the only real students who might be unhappy with Goldwings are people who only wish to get the license without any effort and who also wish to only get positive feedback.... later on such people wonder why no airline wish to have them and no one want to hire them as instructor or even send on a solo PIC flight..... Please if someone only wish to get the license without any effort pick some other school.
There are 4 flight schools at EPBC + aeroclub, and for sightseeing flights there are often people who come to the entrance to the airport and claim they gonna fly and paid for it, but the problem is that they paid to some other school that does not have their office right at the entrance..... Once again no one is interested in aircraft standing idle and Goldwings sightseeing aircraft fly as often as possible when there are people who wish to fly and who have booked the flight with Goldwings not with some other school.
Oh and in EPKP in Kraków there are also sightseeing flights + training for students. By some miracle no one have ever been unhappy with it..... might it have something to do with no other flightschool operating from there (just the aeroclub) I just wonder.... once again the only real students who might be unhappy with Goldwings are people who only wish to get the license without any effort and who also wish to only get positive feedback.... later on such people wonder why no airline wish to have them and no one want to hire them as instructor or even send on a solo PIC flight..... Please if someone only wish to get the license without any effort pick some other school.
) in addition have been accepted to wizzair too and definitely not your student for the CPL IR ME thank god! I wanted to do only UPRT because you were selling a fast training argument and at that time I was in Warsaw. Lie over lie! Ain’t you ashamed? By the way why in some forums in PPRUNE you are saying that you are a STUDENT?
Don’t worry here in Spain and in France too you are a celebrity but sadly known.
You almost ****** up my entrance for type rating with your delays on UPRT because it was needed
But maybe you can give advice to some of your flight Instructors who are lack CRM. With the pig faced Bartek who is the piece of **** of humanity so unprofessional the way to have commercial experience is flying in your own planes… and scamming people.
and people GENERAL ADVICE (mes Français y Mis amigos españoles) : Flight schools in Poland are great I did my CPL IR ME in a different school here my wife is from here too
. AVOID THIS SCHOOL LIKE PLAGUE. There are better school out there extremely professional. This school unfortunately will give a very bad image of the country…kisses and hugs from Madrid.
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Its a shame that this guy is defending them since 2019 😂 man they made you finish you CPL/IR on your last day before you ATPL expires and you made a good job in your ATPL as I remember done from second attempt, but its so sad looking at you licking bartek’s ass just for the sake of that FI job. I was a student there too and I can’t express how bad the quality of training is. The ****ty treatment. The un qualified instructors with very poor English to explain. The poor management. The un mannered discipline .The racism. And there is many many more
Maybe two or three instructors are the good ones they are airlines pilots and they come to goldwings just for the sake of money otherwise they talk **** about bartek and his way of treatment. He terrorize everyone at school his instructors , his students , his office guys. Which is a very healthy environment for a flight school 😂
He thinks so much of himself and in reality he is just a dumb pig born to an abusive drunk parents which reflects on his behavior.
please guys for your sake and the hardworking money that you gathered to become pilots avoid this school at any cost! He is a lovely guy before you sign the contract but once you sign he owns you and you are his slave not his student! If you do a mistake he makes sure he break your confidence and treat you like **** and even makes fun of you infront of his instructors (slaves for money). No creativity in teaching and correcting students only shouting and offending them. Its just demand no effort is given in teaching at this school , cause when you are working for such a guy you hate your life and show zero interest in your profession.
one more fun thing he makes his FI students teach PPL students as the theory part for their FI course 😂😂 full slavery!! He is Not paying the FI student for the classes and taking money from the PPL student for their theory part! And not providing the FI student the theory part that he needs to become an FI.
A very professional flight school! Wow! just wow!
kt1988 you’re saying you need to give effort and have quality to join goldwings huh? If the PPL students are being tought this way then i guess we all agree that that goldwings is the one that needs to put effort and seek quality!
If i want to talk about them I won’t be able to stop its one of the worst schools in poland if not the worst!
ps. My account is new cause i never had an account on pprune and made it just after reading this thread cause i felt like people should actually know about this scamwings of yours. Polish people already know because he is famous for “fat pig” with ****ty personality across poland. This is just for the foreigners to not fall for this trap!
so don’t attack me with your bull**** line that you always are saying that we are from other schools and want goldwings to have a bad image cause they are competing with them! Goldwings doesn’t have **** to compete, if it wasn’t for that uni program and nordica that he landed. they would be bankrupt by now!
When there is plenty of bad reviews from different people all saying same **** and non positive other then you, that must explain everything so please have some dignity and stop bending over for bartek! And let the people know the real image
regards and wishes to the pilot from spain happy landings! Only that guy so don’t include yourself please 😂
Maybe two or three instructors are the good ones they are airlines pilots and they come to goldwings just for the sake of money otherwise they talk **** about bartek and his way of treatment. He terrorize everyone at school his instructors , his students , his office guys. Which is a very healthy environment for a flight school 😂
He thinks so much of himself and in reality he is just a dumb pig born to an abusive drunk parents which reflects on his behavior.
please guys for your sake and the hardworking money that you gathered to become pilots avoid this school at any cost! He is a lovely guy before you sign the contract but once you sign he owns you and you are his slave not his student! If you do a mistake he makes sure he break your confidence and treat you like **** and even makes fun of you infront of his instructors (slaves for money). No creativity in teaching and correcting students only shouting and offending them. Its just demand no effort is given in teaching at this school , cause when you are working for such a guy you hate your life and show zero interest in your profession.
one more fun thing he makes his FI students teach PPL students as the theory part for their FI course 😂😂 full slavery!! He is Not paying the FI student for the classes and taking money from the PPL student for their theory part! And not providing the FI student the theory part that he needs to become an FI.
A very professional flight school! Wow! just wow!
kt1988 you’re saying you need to give effort and have quality to join goldwings huh? If the PPL students are being tought this way then i guess we all agree that that goldwings is the one that needs to put effort and seek quality!
If i want to talk about them I won’t be able to stop its one of the worst schools in poland if not the worst!
ps. My account is new cause i never had an account on pprune and made it just after reading this thread cause i felt like people should actually know about this scamwings of yours. Polish people already know because he is famous for “fat pig” with ****ty personality across poland. This is just for the foreigners to not fall for this trap!
so don’t attack me with your bull**** line that you always are saying that we are from other schools and want goldwings to have a bad image cause they are competing with them! Goldwings doesn’t have **** to compete, if it wasn’t for that uni program and nordica that he landed. they would be bankrupt by now!
When there is plenty of bad reviews from different people all saying same **** and non positive other then you, that must explain everything so please have some dignity and stop bending over for bartek! And let the people know the real image
regards and wishes to the pilot from spain happy landings! Only that guy so don’t include yourself please 😂
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@Flyingsailor93 I was a student you can even see my posts about choosing the school and it was only random luck that I chose Goldwings (some office guy did not bother to do effort (no longer works there) and told me the course 0 to FI(A) rating is more expensive not cause of the FI(A) rating but because Cessna use more fuel than PS-28) so I called some other school and it was like talking with a telemarketer "everyone get to the airlines, everything is superfast and everyone pass etc itd." so I called another one but they did not have time to talk then I called Goldwings again but happily Captain Jesionek answered me then and explained everything super honestly about getting to the airlines about the training and everything. If someone do not understand negative feedback on their flying its not lack of CRM on the side of Instructors, also most of the Instructors are super patient and understand people do extremely strange and dangerous stuff, Captain Jesionek do not fly with everyone as I said only people who he believe will learn something from his training. If he flew with you then it was probably because you did not send the e-mail to the correct address and showed up at the school wanting to fly and the school could not just conjure another instructor who was not expecting someone to be available.
That I chose to cooperate with the school is because it was so professional and I believed in the project not being some "telemarketer just get the license stuff" but a real school that also now provide integrated training and is developing all the time. No one would invest in something they did not believe in....
Oh and BTW look at the previous posts people it looks 100 % like some other flight school making them first the guy says he did not get his training, then he changes nicks claims he did the training and now back to the original nick also claim to have done the training and to be from France/Spain. So he did claim he was not finished in January but sadly for this claim in flightlogger there are atm only Polish students active in UPRT there is no discontinued French/Spanish student and there is no French/Spanish student who finished UPRT in January. So kind of looks something is wrong with this story.
Finally the guy claimed to not have finished his training in mid January, now he did in like 1 week manage to get through the assessment at Wizzair and at Iberia choosing the Iberia before Wizzair. Does this not sound a little bit strange? Like kind of some other school posting? There is literally no french/spanish guy active or finished or discontinued in January + the guy pass 2 assessments in 1 week and is starting the typerating. Either its a story of someone who did the training loooong ago and did not read the aircraft will be at the school in October 2022 so he decided to spice up and make up a better story OR its a story from some other flightschool that struggle to rent UPRT aircraft since they do not have their own.
Once again if someone just want the license please choose some other school, if someone want to do some effort and for real wish to learn to fly and also can accept not only positive feedback then check out Goldwings.
That I chose to cooperate with the school is because it was so professional and I believed in the project not being some "telemarketer just get the license stuff" but a real school that also now provide integrated training and is developing all the time. No one would invest in something they did not believe in....
Oh and BTW look at the previous posts people it looks 100 % like some other flight school making them first the guy says he did not get his training, then he changes nicks claims he did the training and now back to the original nick also claim to have done the training and to be from France/Spain. So he did claim he was not finished in January but sadly for this claim in flightlogger there are atm only Polish students active in UPRT there is no discontinued French/Spanish student and there is no French/Spanish student who finished UPRT in January. So kind of looks something is wrong with this story.
Finally the guy claimed to not have finished his training in mid January, now he did in like 1 week manage to get through the assessment at Wizzair and at Iberia choosing the Iberia before Wizzair. Does this not sound a little bit strange? Like kind of some other school posting? There is literally no french/spanish guy active or finished or discontinued in January + the guy pass 2 assessments in 1 week and is starting the typerating. Either its a story of someone who did the training loooong ago and did not read the aircraft will be at the school in October 2022 so he decided to spice up and make up a better story OR its a story from some other flightschool that struggle to rent UPRT aircraft since they do not have their own.
Once again if someone just want the license please choose some other school, if someone want to do some effort and for real wish to learn to fly and also can accept not only positive feedback then check out Goldwings.
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@Flyingsailor93 I was a student you can even see my posts about choosing the school and it was only random luck that I chose Goldwings (some office guy did not bother to do effort (no longer works there) and told me the course 0 to FI(A) rating is more expensive not cause of the FI(A) rating but because Cessna use more fuel than PS-28) so I called some other school and it was like talking with a telemarketer "everyone get to the airlines, everything is superfast and everyone pass etc itd." so I called another one but they did not have time to talk then I called Goldwings again but happily Captain Jesionek answered me then and explained everything super honestly about getting to the airlines about the training and everything. If someone do not understand negative feedback on their flying its not lack of CRM on the side of Instructors, also most of the Instructors are super patient and understand people do extremely strange and dangerous stuff, Captain Jesionek do not fly with everyone as I said only people who he believe will learn something from his training. If he flew with you then it was probably because you did not send the e-mail to the correct address and showed up at the school wanting to fly and the school could not just conjure another instructor who was not expecting someone to be available.
That I chose to cooperate with the school is because it was so professional and I believed in the project not being some "telemarketer just get the license stuff" but a real school that also now provide integrated training and is developing all the time. No one would invest in something they did not believe in....
Oh and BTW look at the previous posts people it looks 100 % like some other flight school making them first the guy says he did not get his training, then he changes nicks claims he did the training and now back to the original nick also claim to have done the training and to be from France/Spain. So he did claim he was not finished in January but sadly for this claim in flightlogger there are atm only Polish students active in UPRT there is no discontinued French/Spanish student and there is no French/Spanish student who finished UPRT in January. So kind of looks something is wrong with this story.
Finally the guy claimed to not have finished his training in mid January, now he did in like 1 week manage to get through the assessment at Wizzair and at Iberia choosing the Iberia before Wizzair. Does this not sound a little bit strange? Like kind of some other school posting? There is literally no french/spanish guy active or finished or discontinued in January + the guy pass 2 assessments in 1 week and is starting the typerating. Either its a story of someone who did the training loooong ago and did not read the aircraft will be at the school in October 2022 so he decided to spice up and make up a better story OR its a story from some other flightschool that struggle to rent UPRT aircraft since they do not have their own.
Once again if someone just want the license please choose some other school, if someone want to do some effort and for real wish to learn to fly and also can accept not only positive feedback then check out Goldwings.
That I chose to cooperate with the school is because it was so professional and I believed in the project not being some "telemarketer just get the license stuff" but a real school that also now provide integrated training and is developing all the time. No one would invest in something they did not believe in....
Oh and BTW look at the previous posts people it looks 100 % like some other flight school making them first the guy says he did not get his training, then he changes nicks claims he did the training and now back to the original nick also claim to have done the training and to be from France/Spain. So he did claim he was not finished in January but sadly for this claim in flightlogger there are atm only Polish students active in UPRT there is no discontinued French/Spanish student and there is no French/Spanish student who finished UPRT in January. So kind of looks something is wrong with this story.
Finally the guy claimed to not have finished his training in mid January, now he did in like 1 week manage to get through the assessment at Wizzair and at Iberia choosing the Iberia before Wizzair. Does this not sound a little bit strange? Like kind of some other school posting? There is literally no french/spanish guy active or finished or discontinued in January + the guy pass 2 assessments in 1 week and is starting the typerating. Either its a story of someone who did the training loooong ago and did not read the aircraft will be at the school in October 2022 so he decided to spice up and make up a better story OR its a story from some other flightschool that struggle to rent UPRT aircraft since they do not have their own.
Once again if someone just want the license please choose some other school, if someone want to do some effort and for real wish to learn to fly and also can accept not only positive feedback then check out Goldwings.
First, you said the email address ato@goldwings is not working maybe I was receiving replies from ghosts maybe szymon is a ghost maybe Gosha is a host maybe your pig faced Bartek is a ghost? All these person i was trying to deal JUST JUST TO GET A ******* 2 day training.
Second,you said I’m not a student? Why do I have each time I should do the UPRT (2 days training) it was cancelled let me remind you that’s the reason I wrote in this thread to warn people that you guys take 3 months to do a 2 days training (I’m not inventing it look on the screenshots WITH YOUR RESPECTIVE EMAILS and the flightlogger cancellations) Even programming an UPRT training on an ALSIM you guys are bad at programming too.
Your called captain Jesionek Je ne sais quoi de mes couilles can’t know me because bitch we have NEVER flown due to your cancellation and lot of excuses.
Third, bitch not everybody is a lying **** like you. People have integrity and respect to not lie on them asses. Yes that’s the proof you are again scammers and lying bitches you don’t even know if you have had a french/ Spanish student that’s so sad…
Fourth, when you said your zlin was at the hangar waiting for students you are lying you zlin is at the hangar because it had a technical issue (hit at the door)
as stated in your emails.Last, since you are a lying bitch next week I’m in Warsaw to see my wife. I propose you to meet in person so we will take a video of our meeting everybody will know who you are deal? It’s a PITY I can’t upload voice recording I have all the calls recorded with your stupid ass saying bull**** !
3months of cancelling 3 ******* months
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DONT GET FOOLED
You have been warned After all the proof of interminable cancelling of a 2 day training you will lost your energy and time with these persons.
Les gars si vous etes Français et Que vous lisez ceci ne vous faites pas arnaquer vous allez perdre votre temps et votre argent. Ces gens sont des menteurs pire que Binochon vous savez de qui je parle en France…c’est la Elle reputation de fils de pute.
Chicos si sois españoles no os dejáis engañar esta escuela es peor que Rajoy y su gobierno si debéis hacer vuestro UPRT quedaos en España! Ganarías tiempo y energía. Estos son chingadas de su Puta madre. Viejos de la cama.
Les gars si vous etes Français et Que vous lisez ceci ne vous faites pas arnaquer vous allez perdre votre temps et votre argent. Ces gens sont des menteurs pire que Binochon vous savez de qui je parle en France…c’est la Elle reputation de fils de pute.
Chicos si sois españoles no os dejáis engañar esta escuela es peor que Rajoy y su gobierno si debéis hacer vuestro UPRT quedaos en España! Ganarías tiempo y energía. Estos son chingadas de su Puta madre. Viejos de la cama.
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@flyingsailor93: I do not have access to the ato address and IT IS NOT THE ADDRESS where you are supposed to send your availability. Its written on the front page of flightlogger where you should send your availability but none was sent or it would have been solved long ago since aircraft do not earn money if its not flying. There is like 200 completed advanced UPRT students so instead of going one by one I looked at bookings in January and there is literally no one Spanish/French who completed it in January. Or wait I found now one going person by person but strangely there is no training included just information that medical was uploaded in January.
So there is literally no trace in the system about any training, still you claim it was completed in January and in 1 week you managed to get invited and pass assessments at Iberia + Wizzair and even started the type rating.
I have no idea about your possible training or delays since it was all done with the wrong address that I have no access to and no training is filled in the system. What I do know is that 200 people completed the course sent proper mails and got their training on time. Please contact the people who you claim to have talked with on the wrong address. There is literally NO reason if you registered 7th November that the training was not completed long ago unless there is something I do not know about the case other than sending the mail not to the proper address.
There are students from Spain, Portugal and France on full training 0-ATPL(A) and they are happy sending the e-mail to proper address and receiving the training, there is even an Instructor from Portugal who completed the training and is training new students who have their course in English. I can not say anything more about your case since 1. never received the mail on proper address 2. there is no information about anything in flightlogger other than date of start and date of uploading the medical and for some strange reason its marked completed without anything taking place and not discontinued.
PS. I am not in Warszawa at the moment but in Norway visiting my parents, I was only in Warszawa in the summer for my training. I will be there first in May probably to do the IR/SE over to IR/ME and then do some training for instructor rating maybe if I find out its a point (airlines again needing people for real like before COVID (its why your story of passing 2 assessments in 1 week sounds very strange to say the least). I am an investor and I have my own business so I do not need to earn money on my flying but if I see there is demand then I will prepare properly so I am 100 % sure I can answer any technical question and fly every possible task in the SIM (just like before ATPL(A) exams that I passed with 1st time pass and over 90 % average) IF I find out I wish to fly in an airline for the experience not because I have to. The only thing I do is oversee digitally that people get their training but if they skip reading flightlogger and skip sending the availability to the proper address then its nothing I can do because then I have no idea they do even exist..........
So there is literally no trace in the system about any training, still you claim it was completed in January and in 1 week you managed to get invited and pass assessments at Iberia + Wizzair and even started the type rating.
I have no idea about your possible training or delays since it was all done with the wrong address that I have no access to and no training is filled in the system. What I do know is that 200 people completed the course sent proper mails and got their training on time. Please contact the people who you claim to have talked with on the wrong address. There is literally NO reason if you registered 7th November that the training was not completed long ago unless there is something I do not know about the case other than sending the mail not to the proper address.
There are students from Spain, Portugal and France on full training 0-ATPL(A) and they are happy sending the e-mail to proper address and receiving the training, there is even an Instructor from Portugal who completed the training and is training new students who have their course in English. I can not say anything more about your case since 1. never received the mail on proper address 2. there is no information about anything in flightlogger other than date of start and date of uploading the medical and for some strange reason its marked completed without anything taking place and not discontinued.
PS. I am not in Warszawa at the moment but in Norway visiting my parents, I was only in Warszawa in the summer for my training. I will be there first in May probably to do the IR/SE over to IR/ME and then do some training for instructor rating maybe if I find out its a point (airlines again needing people for real like before COVID (its why your story of passing 2 assessments in 1 week sounds very strange to say the least). I am an investor and I have my own business so I do not need to earn money on my flying but if I see there is demand then I will prepare properly so I am 100 % sure I can answer any technical question and fly every possible task in the SIM (just like before ATPL(A) exams that I passed with 1st time pass and over 90 % average) IF I find out I wish to fly in an airline for the experience not because I have to. The only thing I do is oversee digitally that people get their training but if they skip reading flightlogger and skip sending the availability to the proper address then its nothing I can do because then I have no idea they do even exist..........
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@flyingsailor93: I do not have access to the ato address and IT IS NOT THE ADDRESS where you are supposed to send your availability. Its written on the front page of flightlogger where you should send your availability but none was sent or it would have been solved long ago since aircraft do not earn money if its not flying. There is like 200 completed advanced UPRT students so instead of going one by one I looked at bookings in January and there is literally no one Spanish/French who completed it in January. Or wait I found now one going person by person but strangely there is no training included just information that medical was uploaded in January.
So there is literally no trace in the system about any training, still you claim it was completed in January and in 1 week you managed to get invited and pass assessments at Iberia + Wizzair and even started the type rating.
I have no idea about your possible training or delays since it was all done with the wrong address that I have no access to and no training is filled in the system. What I do know is that 200 people completed the course sent proper mails and got their training on time. Please contact the people who you claim to have talked with on the wrong address. There is literally NO reason if you registered 7th November that the training was not completed long ago unless there is something I do not know about the case other than sending the mail not to the proper address.
There are students from Spain, Portugal and France on full training 0-ATPL(A) and they are happy sending the e-mail to proper address and receiving the training, there is even an Instructor from Portugal who completed the training and is training new students who have their course in English. I can not say anything more about your case since 1. never received the mail on proper address 2. there is no information about anything in flightlogger other than date of start and date of uploading the medical and for some strange reason its marked completed without anything taking place and not discontinued.
PS. I am not in Warszawa at the moment but in Norway visiting my parents, I was only in Warszawa in the summer for my training. I will be there first in May probably to do the IR/SE over to IR/ME and then do some training for instructor rating maybe if I find out its a point (airlines again needing people for real like before COVID (its why your story of passing 2 assessments in 1 week sounds very strange to say the least). I am an investor and I have my own business so I do not need to earn money on my flying but if I see there is demand then I will prepare properly so I am 100 % sure I can answer any technical question and fly every possible task in the SIM (just like before ATPL(A) exams that I passed with 1st time pass and over 90 % average) IF I find out I wish to fly in an airline for the experience not because I have to. The only thing I do is oversee digitally that people get their training but if they skip reading flightlogger and skip sending the availability to the proper address then its nothing I can do because then I have no idea they do even exist..........
So there is literally no trace in the system about any training, still you claim it was completed in January and in 1 week you managed to get invited and pass assessments at Iberia + Wizzair and even started the type rating.
I have no idea about your possible training or delays since it was all done with the wrong address that I have no access to and no training is filled in the system. What I do know is that 200 people completed the course sent proper mails and got their training on time. Please contact the people who you claim to have talked with on the wrong address. There is literally NO reason if you registered 7th November that the training was not completed long ago unless there is something I do not know about the case other than sending the mail not to the proper address.
There are students from Spain, Portugal and France on full training 0-ATPL(A) and they are happy sending the e-mail to proper address and receiving the training, there is even an Instructor from Portugal who completed the training and is training new students who have their course in English. I can not say anything more about your case since 1. never received the mail on proper address 2. there is no information about anything in flightlogger other than date of start and date of uploading the medical and for some strange reason its marked completed without anything taking place and not discontinued.
PS. I am not in Warszawa at the moment but in Norway visiting my parents, I was only in Warszawa in the summer for my training. I will be there first in May probably to do the IR/SE over to IR/ME and then do some training for instructor rating maybe if I find out its a point (airlines again needing people for real like before COVID (its why your story of passing 2 assessments in 1 week sounds very strange to say the least). I am an investor and I have my own business so I do not need to earn money on my flying but if I see there is demand then I will prepare properly so I am 100 % sure I can answer any technical question and fly every possible task in the SIM (just like before ATPL(A) exams that I passed with 1st time pass and over 90 % average) IF I find out I wish to fly in an airline for the experience not because I have to. The only thing I do is oversee digitally that people get their training but if they skip reading flightlogger and skip sending the availability to the proper address then its nothing I can do because then I have no idea they do even exist..........
. I’m telling you that the training HAD TO BE DONE IN NOVEMBER . AND IT HAVE NEVER BEEN DONE because you guys were cancelling it during 3 months.Remind a UPRT training have to be done before type rating so yes bitch I have been taken but the type rating started in January! So I had to do it anywhere else and cancel your lying asses.
And I’m telling you all the email possible GOAHA, BARTEK, SZYMON, ALL THOSE EMAIL AND WITHOUT COUNTING THE PHONECALLS!( recorded of course) so if my availability have not been seized why the **** I have cancelled flight?? Are you dumb?
I can find you in Norway wherever you are don’t worry I have plenty of time. Any time you want anywhere you want in the world !
last I’m going to upload the records on YouTube so I’ll be able to put it here.
So deal we meet this week where ever you want and whenever you want it’s up to you honey
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@Flyingsailor93: Well imagine the people with access to ato address also can book people? But strangely all trace of it is no longer there. IF you sent the e-mail to the proper address that I have access too then the training would be completed in November, I have no idea people who do not send it to the proper address do even exist since HOW?
If you wish to travel to Norway then it will be closest for you from TORP airport and then 55 km to Skien so I can show you I literally had no idea you existed and you never sent an e-mail to the proper address. I do not know anything else about your case so please contact the people who possibly "failed" to book your training. Maybe there is something else about your case I have no idea about. But what I do know 100 % is that you did never send the e-mail to the proper address and I did never even know you existed or wanted any training. I do also know there are students from Portugal/Spain/France on 0-ATPL(A) training who care to read where to send their mail and receive their slots and are very happy about the training. There is also an Instructor from Portugal who completed the FI(A) training put effort into it and is now training other students who have their course in English and is also very happy with the training.
I have no idea about your case and there is literally NO reason why you would not get the training when people who sent mail to the correct address were getting their training all the time. What would be the point to not give training to ONE person? There have to be some other story to the case and its what you should take with the persons you talked with since you obviously skipped the place where you should send your availability so I had no chance to know you do even exist.
If you wish to travel to Norway then it will be closest for you from TORP airport and then 55 km to Skien so I can show you I literally had no idea you existed and you never sent an e-mail to the proper address. I do not know anything else about your case so please contact the people who possibly "failed" to book your training. Maybe there is something else about your case I have no idea about. But what I do know 100 % is that you did never send the e-mail to the proper address and I did never even know you existed or wanted any training. I do also know there are students from Portugal/Spain/France on 0-ATPL(A) training who care to read where to send their mail and receive their slots and are very happy about the training. There is also an Instructor from Portugal who completed the FI(A) training put effort into it and is now training other students who have their course in English and is also very happy with the training.
I have no idea about your case and there is literally NO reason why you would not get the training when people who sent mail to the correct address were getting their training all the time. What would be the point to not give training to ONE person? There have to be some other story to the case and its what you should take with the persons you talked with since you obviously skipped the place where you should send your availability so I had no chance to know you do even exist.
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@Flyingsailor93: Well imagine the people with access to ato address also can book people? But strangely all trace of it is no longer there. IF you sent the e-mail to the proper address that I have access too then the training would be completed in November, I have no idea people who do not send it to the proper address do even exist since HOW?
If you wish to travel to Norway then it will be closest for you from TORP airport and then 55 km to Skien so I can show you I literally had no idea you existed and you never sent an e-mail to the proper address. I do not know anything else about your case so please contact the people who possibly "failed" to book your training. Maybe there is something else about your case I have no idea about. But what I do know 100 % is that you did never send the e-mail to the proper address and I did never even know you existed or wanted any training. I do also know there are students from Portugal/Spain/France on 0-ATPL(A) training who care to read where to send their mail and receive their slots and are very happy about the training. There is also an Instructor from Portugal who completed the FI(A) training put effort into it and is now training other students who have their course in English and is also very happy with the training.
I have no idea about your case and there is literally NO reason why you would not get the training when people who sent mail to the correct address were getting their training all the time. What would be the point to not give training to ONE person? There have to be some other story to the case and its what you should take with the persons you talked with since you obviously skipped the place where you should send your availability so I had no chance to know you do even exist.
If you wish to travel to Norway then it will be closest for you from TORP airport and then 55 km to Skien so I can show you I literally had no idea you existed and you never sent an e-mail to the proper address. I do not know anything else about your case so please contact the people who possibly "failed" to book your training. Maybe there is something else about your case I have no idea about. But what I do know 100 % is that you did never send the e-mail to the proper address and I did never even know you existed or wanted any training. I do also know there are students from Portugal/Spain/France on 0-ATPL(A) training who care to read where to send their mail and receive their slots and are very happy about the training. There is also an Instructor from Portugal who completed the FI(A) training put effort into it and is now training other students who have their course in English and is also very happy with the training.
I have no idea about your case and there is literally NO reason why you would not get the training when people who sent mail to the correct address were getting their training all the time. What would be the point to not give training to ONE person? There have to be some other story to the case and its what you should take with the persons you talked with since you obviously skipped the place where you should send your availability so I had no chance to know you do even exist.
I wanted a UPRT training in November and made the same day a payment of 1600€. Your school told me oh it can be done in 2 days.
then one week I didn’t heard of you. I called and your board said « you have to send your availability » I sent it and I receive as the screenshots shows a reply’s of schedule. And then every damn time you were cancelling the training. I didn’t receive any training. Till January I came to the school and told you guys I can’t continue like that for three months I have a type rating coming ! That’s the beginning of allll of this. Instead of listening what the hell people say you automatically denied the problem. Since you don’t want to collaborate we will do it in the violent way.
AGAIN, I repeat ato@goldwings were NOT THE ONLY EMAIL they told me to send email I have called talked with szymon ,GOSHA, your desk office and none of them were able to make a proper programming FOR 3 MONTHS.The limits of the patience here are attained
And if you failed to receive my email WHY there were cancellation of the flights I said I was available on that same email???
Or you don’t understand maybe I should say it in Portuguese or you behave like you don’t understand ****. In both cases it’s a stupid behaviour.
And I assure you, your gaslighting won’t work I do assure you as a former Navy Officer I’ll NOT LET THAT SINK. Integrity and honesty are a religion for me! You can scam who ever you want, lie to whoever you want but me no. I’ll deploy all the means necessary to make you pay your dishonesty!
And that’s great hit me on private I’ll take your phone number and let you know band clarify this situation.
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@flyingsailor93: Well then ask Gosia and Szymon (he is only an Instructor BTW) why you have not received your training. You have not sent the mail to the address on the frontpage of the flightlogger. Instructors and different people at the school can also book and cancel lessons. No where on your screenshots is a reply from the proper address where the availability should be sent.
I have no idea about your case but it sounds totally strange to me why they would skip ONE person on purpose and perform the training for everyone else. What would be the point? Like OH lets scam that one single guy its gonna be perfect and train the 200 other guys...... it does not make any sense and there have to be more to this story than only not sending the e-mail to the proper address.
I have no idea about your case but it sounds totally strange to me why they would skip ONE person on purpose and perform the training for everyone else. What would be the point? Like OH lets scam that one single guy its gonna be perfect and train the 200 other guys...... it does not make any sense and there have to be more to this story than only not sending the e-mail to the proper address.