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@flyingsailor93: Well then ask Gosia and Szymon (he is only an Instructor BTW) why you have not received your training. You have not sent the mail to the address on the frontpage of the flightlogger. Instructors and different people at the school can also book and cancel lessons. No where on your screenshots is a reply from the proper address where the availability should be sent.
I have no idea about your case but it sounds totally strange to me why they would skip ONE person on purpose and perform the training for everyone else. What would be the point? Like OH lets scam that one single guy its gonna be perfect and train the 200 other guys...... it does not make any sense and there have to be more to this story than only not sending the e-mail to the proper address.
I have no idea about your case but it sounds totally strange to me why they would skip ONE person on purpose and perform the training for everyone else. What would be the point? Like OH lets scam that one single guy its gonna be perfect and train the 200 other guys...... it does not make any sense and there have to be more to this story than only not sending the e-mail to the proper address.
look carefully on the screenshots AGAIN AND AGAIN FLIGHTS WERE BEING CANCELLED WE ARE BOT TALKING ABOUT AVAILABILITY HERE. FLIGHTS HAVE BEEN CANCELLED MORE THAN TEN TIMES with lot of excuses THATS WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT!
IM not an isolated guy who have been scammed if you go up in this thread there are others who have the same version.
So stop denying and putting the problem on the others.
Instead fix your organisation and put some discipline on it. Maybe if you need I can ask my colleagues from the military to show you how to be disciplined and how to talk to people!
By the way I’m waiting your reply in private message this week I’ll find you wherever you are
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@Flyingsailor93: I have already replied to your PM, I can prove you that you never sent the mail to the correct address and once again as I said people like Instructors can book and cancel lessons but if the mail is not sent to the correct address I have no possibility to know about it. The other guy in the thread is claiming he completed the training but was unhappy about Captain Jesionek being his instructor and that he had to wait (it was before October 2022) for the UPRT aircraft. After October no one else than you have waited for UPRT training at least no one who sent mail to the correct address and who I do know about.
The only previous real student was unhappy with the Instructor trying to learn her how to fly and got a reply from the Instructor. No one else for 1000s of trained students as you can see......
The only previous real student was unhappy with the Instructor trying to learn her how to fly and got a reply from the Instructor. No one else for 1000s of trained students as you can see......
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@Flyingsailor93: I have already replied to your PM, I can prove you that you never sent the mail to the correct address and once again as I said people like Instructors can book and cancel lessons but if the mail is not sent to the correct address I have no possibility to know about it. The other guy in the thread is claiming he completed the training but was unhappy about Captain Jesionek being his instructor and that he had to wait (it was before October 2022) for the UPRT aircraft. After October no one else than you have waited for UPRT training at least no one who sent mail to the correct address and who I do know about.
The only previous real student was unhappy with the Instructor trying to learn her how to fly and got a reply from the Instructor. No one else for 1000s of trained students as you can see......
The only previous real student was unhappy with the Instructor trying to learn her how to fly and got a reply from the Instructor. No one else for 1000s of trained students as you can see......
The UPRT training I have been charged 1600€ proof (by the way till the end of this day if you don’t give me back my money I’ll seize a prosecutor and the Polish Authorities).
Last, it’s not my problem the other guy you made pass as being a fake account and a “flight school” competing with goldwings.
im pointing out the way you are conducting you UPRT training! And as I told you I didn’t only use one email to communicate with the school.
it’s called redundancy. I called you too by the way should teach Bartek to listen and be polite on the phone. (Oh do you want a record wait I’ll provide you one yeah I’m a person of proof) Again in the military there is some drill to teach people how to behave with integrity and honesty. And TAKE RESPONSIBILITY instead of blaming a shadow enemy.
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@Flyingsailor93: I have no idea what the administration have done and why, but the only place I can monitor and where you should send your availability you have not sent it and information about it is in flightlogger. I will contact the other people to explain this stuff because its totally pointless to not schedule one person when everyone else is performing the training. The other guy did too perform it looks like just was unhappy with times BEFORE October 2022 and that his instructor was Captain Jesionek. Also that other person failed to send the mail to the proper address to get scheduled with the regular Instructors.
Just reminding that there are over 1000 students who completed the full training at Goldwings and 200 UPRT students who completed only the UPRT.... only one person did not get the training so there must be some reason to it and someone will for sure explain it.
PS. I just called the school and recieved the reply from the person you were dealing with. So 1. they say you got the theory course for UPRT and JOC. 2. The cancellations were due to weather. 3. You got your practical flight and it was supposed to be with Captain Jesionek. BUT before the flight with spin recovery lesson in it you were unable to answer the instructor how you are going to recover from the spin. So the instructor told you that you have to know this before you can fly since its pointless if you do not even know in theory how to recover from spin. Then they say that you felt offended with the feedback that you do not know your theory and refused to continue the training with the school.
So there you can see everyone it was a reason behind it I just had no idea about this students existence and why he did not get his training.
Just reminding that there are over 1000 students who completed the full training at Goldwings and 200 UPRT students who completed only the UPRT.... only one person did not get the training so there must be some reason to it and someone will for sure explain it.
PS. I just called the school and recieved the reply from the person you were dealing with. So 1. they say you got the theory course for UPRT and JOC. 2. The cancellations were due to weather. 3. You got your practical flight and it was supposed to be with Captain Jesionek. BUT before the flight with spin recovery lesson in it you were unable to answer the instructor how you are going to recover from the spin. So the instructor told you that you have to know this before you can fly since its pointless if you do not even know in theory how to recover from spin. Then they say that you felt offended with the feedback that you do not know your theory and refused to continue the training with the school.
So there you can see everyone it was a reason behind it I just had no idea about this students existence and why he did not get his training.
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@Flyingsailor93: I have no idea what the administration have done and why, but the only place I can monitor and where you should send your availability you have not sent it and information about it is in flightlogger. I will contact the other people to explain this stuff because its totally pointless to not schedule one person when everyone else is performing the training. The other guy did too perform it looks like just was unhappy with times BEFORE October 2022 and that his instructor was Captain Jesionek. Also that other person failed to send the mail to the proper address to get scheduled with the regular Instructors.
Just reminding that there are over 1000 students who completed the full training at Goldwings and 200 UPRT students who completed only the UPRT.... only one person did not get the training so there must be some reason to it and someone will for sure explain it.
PS. I just called the school and recieved the reply from the person you were dealing with. So 1. they say you got the theory course for UPRT and JOC. 2. The cancellations were due to weather. 3. You got your practical flight and it was supposed to be with Captain Jesionek. BUT before the flight with spin recovery lesson in it you were unable to answer the instructor how you are going to recover from the spin. So the instructor told you that you have to know this before you can fly since its pointless if you do not even know in theory how to recover from spin. Then they say that you felt offended with the feedback that you do not know your theory and refused to continue the training with the school.
So there you can see everyone it was a reason behind it I just had no idea about this students existence and why he did not get his training.
Just reminding that there are over 1000 students who completed the full training at Goldwings and 200 UPRT students who completed only the UPRT.... only one person did not get the training so there must be some reason to it and someone will for sure explain it.
PS. I just called the school and recieved the reply from the person you were dealing with. So 1. they say you got the theory course for UPRT and JOC. 2. The cancellations were due to weather. 3. You got your practical flight and it was supposed to be with Captain Jesionek. BUT before the flight with spin recovery lesson in it you were unable to answer the instructor how you are going to recover from the spin. So the instructor told you that you have to know this before you can fly since its pointless if you do not even know in theory how to recover from spin. Then they say that you felt offended with the feedback that you do not know your theory and refused to continue the training with the school.
So there you can see everyone it was a reason behind it I just had no idea about this students existence and why he did not get his training.
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@Flyingsailor93: I have no idea what the administration have done and why, but the only place I can monitor and where you should send your availability you have not sent it and information about it is in flightlogger. I will contact the other people to explain this stuff because its totally pointless to not schedule one person when everyone else is performing the training. The other guy did too perform it looks like just was unhappy with times BEFORE October 2022 and that his instructor was Captain Jesionek. Also that other person failed to send the mail to the proper address to get scheduled with the regular Instructors.
Just reminding that there are over 1000 students who completed the full training at Goldwings and 200 UPRT students who completed only the UPRT.... only one person did not get the training so there must be some reason to it and someone will for sure explain it.
PS. I just called the school and recieved the reply from the person you were dealing with. So 1. they say you got the theory course for UPRT and JOC. 2. The cancellations were due to weather. 3. You got your practical flight and it was supposed to be with Captain Jesionek. BUT before the flight with spin recovery lesson in it you were unable to answer the instructor how you are going to recover from the spin. So the instructor told you that you have to know this before you can fly since its pointless if you do not even know in theory how to recover from spin. Then they say that you felt offended with the feedback that you do not know your theory and refused to continue the training with the school.
So there you can see everyone it was a reason behind it I just had no idea about this students existence and why he did not get his training.
Just reminding that there are over 1000 students who completed the full training at Goldwings and 200 UPRT students who completed only the UPRT.... only one person did not get the training so there must be some reason to it and someone will for sure explain it.
PS. I just called the school and recieved the reply from the person you were dealing with. So 1. they say you got the theory course for UPRT and JOC. 2. The cancellations were due to weather. 3. You got your practical flight and it was supposed to be with Captain Jesionek. BUT before the flight with spin recovery lesson in it you were unable to answer the instructor how you are going to recover from the spin. So the instructor told you that you have to know this before you can fly since its pointless if you do not even know in theory how to recover from spin. Then they say that you felt offended with the feedback that you do not know your theory and refused to continue the training with the school.
So there you can see everyone it was a reason behind it I just had no idea about this students existence and why he did not get his training.
I remind you that there have been even week in Warsaw where it was CAVOK weather was ok you were flying. It’s really a pity o can’t upload a voice record here by the end of the day I’ll manage to and you will see that I did refuse to fly that day because I called you asking to cancel then you offered me a flight in precipitation without briefing.
You don’t do a briefing on a car on the way to the plane.
what I said was it was not professional to do it this way. I’m here for a training not a discovery flight once again this you unprofessional behaviour I’m pointing. But please patience I’ll manage to upload this record and it was not Jesionek it was Bartek for your information.
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Dont worry everybody will be served…
Proof of what I said since the beginning are here so now I’ll let the costumers judge.
Dont worry everybody will be served…
Proof of what I said since the beginning are here so now I’ll let the costumers judge.
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Goldwings Flight academy Unprofessionalism Proof
https://voca.ro/11uyhtRh4dMV
who in the world wants to do a UPRT training about spins and do a briefing IN A CAR??
Yes I’m a student not a top gun and I was here to LEARN ABOUT SPINS!!!
To precise this was the 17th of January when I called them to cancel my training with them due to 3 months cancellation and more and more excuses.
who in the world wants to do a UPRT training about spins and do a briefing IN A CAR??
Yes I’m a student not a top gun and I was here to LEARN ABOUT SPINS!!!
To precise this was the 17th of January when I called them to cancel my training with them due to 3 months cancellation and more and more excuses.
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Goldwings unprofessionalism proof record part 2
https://voca.ro/16TlHrbMIJDA
Here is one of the thousands of call I have maid to have a 2 day training! It was the last Calll since I asked for reimbursement and cancel the training with them. Once again Bartek is always on the phone but we’re silent because he knew they didn’t do their job.
This is again another proof that the costumer can judge by itself. Do you want more so we can continue underlining the bad treatment you do on your students? If the UPRT training a 2 day training is like this I can’t imagine doing the CPL IR ME with you guys.
For me this is the last message on this thread I have some things to do. But don’t worry I’ll be sure that these proof goes everywhere and up to date.By the way I’m waiting for my reimbursement otherwise I’ll seize a prosecutor as simple as is it.
Here is one of the thousands of call I have maid to have a 2 day training! It was the last Calll since I asked for reimbursement and cancel the training with them. Once again Bartek is always on the phone but we’re silent because he knew they didn’t do their job.
This is again another proof that the costumer can judge by itself. Do you want more so we can continue underlining the bad treatment you do on your students? If the UPRT training a 2 day training is like this I can’t imagine doing the CPL IR ME with you guys.
For me this is the last message on this thread I have some things to do. But don’t worry I’ll be sure that these proof goes everywhere and up to date.By the way I’m waiting for my reimbursement otherwise I’ll seize a prosecutor as simple as is it.
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Bad attitude there is no bad attitude here if you see I have been WAAAAY more calm than Bartek Shouting at people .
And recording are not showing bad attitude recording are proof of YOUR unprofessional behaviour. By the way Bartek did you got a new pseudo mate?
Again let me resume you have passed from “You are a school who wants to mud throwing “
to “I don’t have any idea of who you are” to “Oh you are a bad student who doesn’t know about spin” to “recording is showing bad attitude on other sides” be coherent please.
Since the beginning I did what I said and said what I did with proof. What did you bring here certainly a non constructive argument instead it’s denying denying and denying and denying.
let me give you a commercial advice: Acountability.
you have to take into account what costumers says. Not trying to discredit the costumer.
Even with proof in front of you you will continue denying.
.And recording are not showing bad attitude recording are proof of YOUR unprofessional behaviour. By the way Bartek did you got a new pseudo mate?
Again let me resume you have passed from “You are a school who wants to mud throwing “
to “I don’t have any idea of who you are” to “Oh you are a bad student who doesn’t know about spin” to “recording is showing bad attitude on other sides” be coherent please.
Since the beginning I did what I said and said what I did with proof. What did you bring here certainly a non constructive argument instead it’s denying denying and denying and denying.
let me give you a commercial advice: Acountability.
you have to take into account what costumers says. Not trying to discredit the costumer.
Even with proof in front of you you will continue denying.
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Goldwings unprofessional
At the end of the day you are the one who loses costumers. And I’m telling you I assure you that the behaviour at Goldwings will be known in the aviation sphere and I’m the military sphere in Spain and in France.
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Fair winds, and following seas
As we say in the Navy
Fair winds, and following seas
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Sure mate. Sounds like you're an integral part of the problem. goodluck
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The difference between you and me is I assume “my problems” and there is no problem here( The simple task is getting refunded and it’s all. ). The difference between you and me is I do take responsibility and integrity and honesty words that Goldwings don’t know in it’s vocabulary
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I’ll add you this.
https://www.verywellmind.com/is-someone-gaslighting-you-4147470
the only way to tackle people like you is stop replying. So I’m going to stop replying good luck with your scamming issues.
auf Wiedersehen as the German say