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Thrust Augmentation 11th May 2022 12:29


Originally Posted by Beamr (Post 11228556)
Anyone got any idea whats that thing flying very fast across the FJ's flight path?

At 12 seconds, it looks to have wings & a tail - ALCM?

NutLoose 11th May 2022 13:07

I thought it was a bird disturbed by the noise or an insect closer to the camera?

langleybaston 11th May 2022 13:47


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11228585)
I thought it was a bird disturbed by the noise or an insect closer to the camera?

I took it to be an insect very close to lens.

ORAC 11th May 2022 14:11

Turret weighs about 12 tons and length ot barrel I’d about 25 feet - meaning it was thrown about 250ft into the air…

Abiut 2m 20s in…


Beamr 11th May 2022 14:21

BREAKING NEWS FROM UK
Prime Minister signs new assurances to bolster European security: 11 May 2022

This morning the Prime Minister signed mutual security assurances with Prime Minister Andersson in Sweden, and this afternoon he will travel to Finland to sign a similar security declaration with President Niinistö.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/p...ty-11-may-2022

Wokkafans 11th May 2022 14:23


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11228617)
Turret weighs about 12 tons and length of barrel I’d about 25 feet - meaning it was thrown about 250ft into the air…

About 2m 20s in…

https://youtu.be/ZsiHlmJ9myg


Looks like the turret off a BTR (or similar) or possibly a Gvozdika so considerably smaller and lighter.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c72793c7a5.jpg

Timmy Tomkins 11th May 2022 14:30

Howitzers in Ukraine , making difference

https://www.newsweek.com/how-america...russia-1705184

NutLoose 11th May 2022 14:51

That's one heck of a bang, shortened post of the same tank Wokkafans has posted, look how high the turret goes. another view of the tank in clip two but from above. The poor buggers wouldn't of had a chance, at least it was quick.


That's what I think too. 13km from Russia and 80km from Ukrainian forces (not including Mariupol)

dead_pan 11th May 2022 16:08


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11228585)
I thought it was a bird disturbed by the noise or an insect closer to the camera?

Either way it got a good start on the Fencer - overtook it before it went out of frame...

dead_pan 11th May 2022 16:11


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11228635)
That's one heck of a bang, shortened post of the same tank Wokkafans has posted, look how high the turret goes. another view of the tank in clip two but from above. The poor buggers wouldn't of had a chance, at least it was quick.

No indication as to what struck it. Arty maybe?

langleybaston 11th May 2022 16:34


Originally Posted by dead_pan (Post 11228675)
No indication as to what struck it. Arty maybe?

There was the drone above .............. my nomination for the cigar.

uxb99 11th May 2022 16:36


Originally Posted by dead_pan (Post 11228675)
No indication as to what struck it. Arty maybe?

What I don't get are all the cars and vehicles seemingly going about their normal day.
Is it just business as usual, don't bother me I won't bother you in Ukraine? Or was this tank just parked in a side street and not part of the battle.
Just got taken out by a UAV spy ?

uxb99 11th May 2022 16:37

I remember Sven Hassell. Great books.

Mr Mac 11th May 2022 16:53


Originally Posted by dead_pan (Post 11228675)
No indication as to what struck it. Arty maybe?

Deadpan
There seems to be a bit of dust of the road to the left on the view from the film crew, which could be either dust from traffic or artillery, but when you look at at the shot from a drone no dust visible so that must be out of shot, so I think my money would be on a drone strike. As Nutlose says they would not have known much about it luckily.

Cheers
Mr Mac

NutLoose 11th May 2022 17:49

That’s a heck of a lot taken out in one spot.


[email protected] 11th May 2022 18:11

I don't think the 2 tank explosions are the same from different angles - where are the vehicles, so obviously close on the street level view, in the top down one?

Wokkafans 11th May 2022 18:27


Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 11228736)
I don't think the 2 tank explosions are the same from different angles - where are the vehicles, so obviously close on the street level view, in the top down one?


They are not the same - the aerial view clip is from a while back.

NutLoose 11th May 2022 18:43

K thanks for the heads up.

larssnowpharter 11th May 2022 18:47

MQ 9?
 
Back on 13 April Forbes and Defence Post reported that Ukrainian officials were in discussion with General Atomics to purchase MQ 9s.

Certainly would be a useful addition for the Ukrainians.

However, everything seems to have gone quiet. Security or has the sale been blocked?

Does anyone know anything?

langleybaston 11th May 2022 18:57


Originally Posted by Wokkafans (Post 11228742)
They are not the same - the aerial view clip is from a while back.

So that is two flying turrets or fakery.


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