Don't worry langleybaston, there will be another 'splash' clip along soon of poor sods losing their lives....
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Whilst Russia is a country-mile from doing a Yugoslavia IMO, it does beg the question what would the likes of NATO, the EU and China do if it were to descend into civil war, with its various bits vying for control over its natural resources and nukes? If it came to some sort of sphere-of-influence carve-up, China could do quite well with the resource-rich eastern territories, Europe being left with all the lunatic-fringe territories west of the Urals...
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Originally Posted by [email protected]
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Don't worry langleybaston, there will be another 'splash' clip along soon of poor sods losing their lives....
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Pretty good report from ITN, showing Uke plus some Rus fast air in action. The cameraman obviously wasn't briefed about standing in the blast zone of gun when it lets rip...
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Bugger this for a game of soldiers.
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Originally Posted by Usertim
(Post 11227808)
Interesting listen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmEmdFIltNw Oryx has only one Su35 downed , and the date\location matches this https://postlmg.cc/nMQgTND7 The pilot says he was targeting air defense radars, acknowledges that radar operators may have been killed, that such installations are not in populated areas where civilians are likely collateral casualties. The interviewer isn’t seeking truth, he’s accusing the pilot in a very one-sided manner. As a former aircrew member I find this interview dishonorable. I certainly support Ukraine and believe what Russia is doing there is wrong, but based on what I see and hear in this “interview”, I don’t see this pilot as morally responsible for war crimes. He was doing his duty for the country he serves. |
Originally Posted by GlobalNav
(Post 11228170)
The interview sounds more like a prosecutorial interrogation. Whether Russia abides by the Geneva Convention or not this was not compliant.
The pilot says he was targeting air defense radars, acknowledges that radar operators may have been killed, that such installations are not in populated areas where civilians are likely collateral casualties. The interviewer isn’t seeking truth, he’s accusing the pilot in a very one-sided manner. As a former aircrew member I find this interview dishonorable. I certainly support Ukraine and believe what Russia is doing there is wrong, but based on what I see and hear in this “interview”, I don’t see this pilot as morally responsible for war crimes. He was doing his duty for the country he serves. It will take many generations on all sides to elevate their society to one more approaching that of the Free World. War is evil, evil begets evil. Eventually humanity may rise above such a blunt instrument but you or I will not see it. IG |
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11228139)
Bugger this for a game of soldiers.
I have to say though, once one considers compounding (of errors), I'd rather be at the front of that queue than the back of it! And to bring it down to the level of JetBlast ... what if that tank was on a conveyor belt? |
Originally Posted by [email protected]
(Post 11228130)
Don't worry langleybaston, there will be another 'splash' clip along soon of poor sods losing their lives....
Such is not available on mainstream media unless it is flavour of the hour to a news editor. |
Originally Posted by langleybaston
Such is not available on mainstream media unless it is flavour of the hour to a news editor
Originally Posted by Sue Vêtements
(Post 11228186)
That was standard practice in all the Sven Hassel books I read in my younger years -
Spoiler
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Originally Posted by Beamr
(Post 11227994)
As the latest evolution version of their 20th century kits aren't as good as advertised do the Russians dare to move the Armata in to the battlefield? I'd really love to know how it'll do in the battle, however a loss of one of those would really be a blow for the Russians.
Civil Servant: Ukraine Ministry of Agriculture. Poultry and Battlefield Recovery Department. How may I help you? Caller: Hello. I need to have a tank moved. CS: Oh. Not chickens then? OK, err, we have a really long waiting list. There is a war on you know. Caller: A war? First I've heard of it. Anyway, my Commander says it has to go today. He has direct orders from the President. CS: Wow! Gosh. OK then. Where is it? Caller: Tomsk CS: Eh? Tomsk in Russia? Caller: Yes. CS: Can't do that. Caller: Oh I get it. This is exactly the sort of prejudice against Russian-speakers I've been warned about. CS: But we're both speaking Russian now! Language isn't the problem. The problem is that is that we only do battlefield moves and poultry. Tomsk isn't a battlefield. It's not due to be one until next wee err, we ah, we can't help. Not a battlefield. Understand? Caller: Listen mate, it's not on a battlefield but it needs towing to the battlefield. Now. Actually they all do." CS: They all do what? Caller: Need towing. There's this one 'ere but thinking about it the other fifteen won't be any better. How about it? Tanks. Battlefield. Towing. That's your department isn't it? CS: And poultry. Caller: Sorry. And poultry. Anyway, can you do it? CS: So, you want me to get a organise a load of farmers to drive their tractors past basically the whole Russian Army, well the bit that's still Russian anyway, across thousands of km of Russia, hitch up a load of, err, what are they exactly? Caller: Armata MTBs. Every one of them. Leave the cardboard models though. CS: Hitch up all 16 of your Armatas and tow them to, to, err, where exactly? Caller: Sevastopol. CS: That's not a battlefield either! You're a couple of days earl, err, err, never mind. Really? Sevastopol? Caller: The Navy needs them. CS: Navy?! But they don't even float! Caller: Exactly. Saves a lot of time and effort all round. Genuis eh? CS: Alright. Fair enough. Leave the keys on top of the tracks. Someone will be round this afternoon. Goodbye. Caller. Goodbye.[/QUOTE] |
Belarus moving troops to the Ukrainian border. I am surprised with the Russian military tied up, the populace hasn’t got rid of Lukashenko.
US Abrams moving to the Polish border too. https://twitter.com/hashtag/Belarusi...g_click&f=live The man’s a village idiot, watch this |
Originally Posted by NutLoose
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Dig deeper!
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The man’s a village idiot, watch this |
He even makes Boris look intelligent.....
You do wonder why the Belarusians haven't made a bit to oust him in the current situation, they might not get a better chance with Pootin's resources being used up in Ukraine, he's not going to be in a great position to come running to Belarus to help out his idiot cousin......given he's now already seemingly having to pull out a lot of his forces from Syria as well. |
Spinal Tap.
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11228264)
Belarus moving troops to the Ukrainian border. I am surprised with the Russian military tied up, the populace hasn’t got rid of Lukashenko.
The man’s a village idiot, watch this https://youtu.be/1JNtiO7nhmo |
TURKISH DRONES MARKETING
Just wondering if the Turkish Air Force Citation currently landing at Northolt (11:35Z, 11/05/22) is here to flog a few Bayraktor droneas to the UK MoD. Interesting in the light of the Commons Public Accounts Committee statement earlier today.
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Ukranian SU 24 operating at low level.
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Anyone got any idea whats that thing flying very fast across the FJ's flight path?
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b587e167a6.jpg |
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