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Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11248276)
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Originally Posted by goofer3
(Post 11248288)
Not the same vessel as posted by Sepp.
Pic for comparison: https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e08d85d515.jpg 651 has often been photographed without a masthead radar, even when in good order. Note the number is further aft on the stbd side of the hull. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....50fd360b0a.jpg |
I feel that as this is the Military Forum, I should declare that I'm not mil, not even ex-... pure civvy. My interest in the discussion here - apart from the faint possibility that we might all be treated to an in depth tanning session - is that this place offers some of the best information and analysis I've seen. I promise to behave.
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Purely. a WAG but could the radome and mast be stowed on deck in order to be towed / pushed under some low bridges?
Speculation on my part.
Originally Posted by Sepp
(Post 11248294)
Interesting pic - because the Velikiy Ustyug (651) as shown in that pic is indeed being touted at the vessel in the pic I posted (and I believe it to be so, because other ships of the type either [a] have names that do not fit the blanked out characters in my (or Twitter post) pics, or the ship's number does not occupy the blanked out space in same (most other ships, the number appears further aft), or [c] both.
Pic for comparison: https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e08d85d515.jpg 651 has often been photographed without a masthead radar, even when in good order. Note the number is further aft on the stbd side of the hull. https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....50fd360b0a.jpg |
Originally Posted by albatross
(Post 11248393)
Purely. a WAG but could the radome and mast be stowed on deck in order to be towed / pushed under some low bridges?
Speculation on my part. Would have to be whats the point of having a radar that 270 degrees is blocked by the superstructure of the ship. |
An excellent thread - but in the context of the Cold War the drawdown in production capability and bases started much earlier with the concept of the 3 day war as the Russians advanced before we went nuclear.
Meaning no additional manpower was needed beyond that point. To the point Admin sections and kitchens were closed to provide guards for 72 hours with their work ceasing. The shock when prolonged operations were required in the preparation for GW I was palpable, with UK stations being gutted to provide these essential services to the few deployed squadrons. I was at SOC Boulmer and had to give weekly briefings to the families of the cooks, drivers, admin clerks etc who had suddenly been sent to Saudi whilst we the “combat forces” of the Operations Wing we left at home watching it on TV… https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...860118528.html It is now 115 days since Russia invaded #Ukraine. Today, an examination of how the war has re-emphasised industrial capacity to sustain military operations in the 21st century. …. This week, an article by Alex Vershinin at @RUSI_org explored the consumption rates of ammunition in the Russo-Ukraine War and how industry capacity to manufacture the large quantities of ammunition needed for modern war is limited. You can read the full article here: https://t.co/gRAGrrcr0f The article argues that “war between peer or near-peer adversaries demands the existence of a technically advanced, mass scale, industrial-age production capability.” This is true. But it is also an old lesson re-learned. In the wake of the Cold War, and the draw down on military spending, military forces were downsized (reducing demand), and militaries engaged in operations that only had short periods of high intensity combat.… |
https://wartranslated.com/what-might...ans-worldview/
What might be the average Russian’s worldview? |
Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 11248428)
https://wartranslated.com/what-might...ans-worldview/
What might be the average Russian’s worldview? What’s an “average Russian”? |
Thanks for that link , ORAC. Well worth reading.
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Originally Posted by GlobalNav
(Post 11248470)
Isn’t that hard to say?
What’s an “average Russian”? https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....2e7c15fd49.jpg :) [No political slant intended.] |
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They are in need of a couple of Saxon starter motors.
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GN :-
Isn’t that hard to say? What’s an “average Russian”? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christabel_Bielenberg Most people of course keep their heads down and try not to give cause to informers to betray them. That doesn't mean they approve of the regime, let alone support it. You can be a proud German, Russian, whatever, without necessarily being proud of what is being done in your name by those in power. The very brave ones go around causing electrical fires. The great majority just get by. |
Originally Posted by rattman
(Post 11248401)
Would have to be whats the point of having a radar that 270 degrees is blocked by the superstructure of the ship.
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Originally Posted by GlobalNav
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Isn’t that hard to say?
What’s an “average Russian”? |
Originally Posted by peter we
(Post 11248570)
The Random is taken down for river transport to allow it to pass under bridges.
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The man on the Omsk omnibus?
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Things getting interesting around Kherson.
Clashes going on in Znamenka, 11 km away from Kherson City, the last stronghold of Russians on the road to Kherson City. |
Another General along with his entire staff bites the dust.
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I presume this means air policing, German and other SAM already having been deployed..
It is being suggested that reason is that, once an agreement is signed, the Slovakian Mig-29s can then, finally, be transferred to Ukraine….. Slovak Minister of Defence Jaroslav Naď has asked the Czech Republic for assistance in temporarily defending the country's airspace He said this during a visit to his Czech counterpart Jana Černochová. According to Naď, in addition to the Czechs, Polish forces will also be involved in the defence. Chernokhova replied that negotiations on the terms of this assistance were underway. |
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