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Is Ukraine about to have a war?

Old 17th Feb 2023, 23:28
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Originally Posted by Wokkafans
Close quarters combat in the trenches. Warning contains graphic scenes.



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What graphic scenes , Wokka ? Troops firing lots of rounds ?
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Old 17th Feb 2023, 23:34
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Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan
What graphic scenes , Wokka ? Troops firing lots of rounds ?
Russian soldier hit at 1:09 and then finished off at 1:27
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Old 18th Feb 2023, 00:23
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Originally Posted by Wokkafans
Russian soldier hit at 1:09 and then finished off at 1:27
Well, I see someone fall over at 1:09 but nothing at 1:27. That apart, was it your decision to call "adult comment " on that ? Seeing someone fall over is not horrifying, or do you think the average viewer age here is 19 ?

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Old 18th Feb 2023, 01:35
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The Poles surely are seroius about their defence, $85bn worth of orders!
And I can"t blame them. However the numbers are just mind boggling. Eg. 1336 MBT"s, 648 units of self propelled howitzers, 96 Apaches, 18 HIMARS and much more, everything on top of their current inventory that isn't very modest either.

On their way to be the strongest army in Europe.


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Old 18th Feb 2023, 07:46
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Meduza news agency reports that Latvian government will confiscate cars from drunk drivers and hand the cars over to Ukrainian Armed Forces. Now theres an initiative to spread throughout the countries


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The authorities of Latvia decided to hand over to the army of Ukraine cars confiscated from drunk drivers

The Saeima (parliament) of Latvia approved in the final reading amendments to the law on support for the civilian population of Ukraine, which provide for the possibility of transferring state-owned vehicles to the ownership of the government of Ukraine free of charge. Delphi reports.

We can sell the vehicles confiscated from drunk drivers by selling them, handing them over for processing or dismantling them for spare parts, but we see that in the current conditions they would be useful support for the people of Ukraine, said Raimonds Bergmanis, Chairman of the Seimas Defense Commission.

The decision to transfer confiscated vehicles to the needs of the Ukrainian army in each case will be taken by the government of Latvia. Vehicles will be transferred by an organization that cooperates with the government of Ukraine and receives requests for assistance.

Earlier, Latvian Finance Minister Arvils Asheradens made a proposal to transfer cars confiscated from drunk drivers to Ukraine. He was supported by the ruling coalition in the Latvian Seimas, Prime Minister Krisjanis Karins said.

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Old 18th Feb 2023, 11:07
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Originally Posted by Wokkafans
Close quarters combat in the trenches.
What I want to know is what the fella hiding under the tarpaulin is doing? Has he given up??
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Old 18th Feb 2023, 11:12
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Bejesus, +1010 reported for yesterday.
Even if 50% would be propaganda it would still mean that a full strength russian infantry BTG was destroyed. Yesterday. In 24 hours.

Even though Russia is a big country with a lot of people, its limits are there. At some point they need to put all in or fold. Whatever either one means is anyones guess.


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Originally Posted by dead_pan
What I want to know is what the fella hiding under the tarpaulin is doing? Has he given up??
seems to be handing over ammunition for the RPG and the rifle. Fighting as a pair.
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Old 18th Feb 2023, 11:24
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Originally Posted by Beamr
Bejesus, +1010 reported for yesterday.
Even if 50% would be propaganda it would still mean that a full strength russian infantry BTG was destroyed. Yesterday. In 24 hours.

Even though Russia is a big country with a lot of people, its limits are there. At some point they need to put all in or fold. Whatever either one means is anyones guess.

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Tank and APC losses seem very low for that number of casualties. Are they fighting without support?
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Old 18th Feb 2023, 11:31
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Originally Posted by Ninthace
Tank and APC losses seem very low for that number of casualties. Are they fighting without support?
that has been reported recently. They drive their vehicles into minefields and send the infantry running towards defensive lines in waves. There are a few drone videos of such idiocy circling.

It's not that they do it entirely on purpose. Apparently they drive the vehicles into routes they believe have been cleared but have already been mined again by artillery. First one blows up, the rest panic. As they can't reverse fast enough they need to turn the vehicles around running into more mines. Eventually they all get blown up. Astonishing to look at. Not to mention driving too close to each other, driving in a row close to front line, not having the mine sweepers in the lead vehicles amd so forth.
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Old 18th Feb 2023, 11:31
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Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan
Well, I see someone fall over at 1:09 but nothing at 1:27. That apart, was it your decision to call "adult comment " on that ? Seeing someone fall over is not horrifying, or do you think the average viewer age here is 19 ?
Very clear to me at 1:27. Surprised you failed to see it.
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Old 18th Feb 2023, 11:47
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Tartfillet fan,

Seeing someone fall over is not horrifying
He falls over just as hes being shot at. Doubt hes tripped over his shoe lace. I also do see him being shot at again about 15 seconds later.

Think wokka was just giving people a heads up. Some people may find a video of somebody being shot, a little horrific. I dont see a problem with his/her heads up.
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Old 18th Feb 2023, 12:36
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Originally Posted by Beamr
that has been reported recently. They drive their vehicles into minefields and send the infantry running towards defensive lines in waves. There are a few drone videos of such idiocy circling.

It's not that they do it entirely on purpose. Apparently they drive the vehicles into routes they believe have been cleared but have already been mined again by artillery. First one blows up, the rest panic. As they can't reverse fast enough they need to turn the vehicles around running into more mines. Eventually they all get blown up. Astonishing to look at. Not to mention driving too close to each other, driving in a row close to front line, not having the mine sweepers in the lead vehicles amd so forth.
Every cloud has a silver lining.

This is almost aviation content, #583 was a competitor in the single stage to orbit turret toss. Reading the inscription, it turns out to have been attached to the group that was involved in the atrocities at Bucha in March 2022. That it gained donations to the defence of Ukraine from the criminals of the Kremlin is a fitting end to it.





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Old 18th Feb 2023, 21:39
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Old 18th Feb 2023, 22:19
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Originally Posted by FUMR
Very clear to me at 1:27. Surprised you failed to see it.
It's at 1:24. not 1:27, at least for me. There's only branches & sky (and mud) at 1:27.

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Old 19th Feb 2023, 01:25
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Originally Posted by Fly-by-Wife
It's at 1:24. not 1:27, at least for me. There's only branches & sky (and mud) at 1:27.
nope nothing at 1:24. But at 1:27 he fires a burst in the direction that the Russian was seen to fall down in, after being shot the first time. Sometimes I feel this site is being trolled!
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the demise of 35 wagner through a snipers night vision sight. This in 3 hours, on one field, in front of one sniper, in a front 1300km long. No wonder the russkies are losing a thousand troops daily.


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Old 19th Feb 2023, 09:06
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https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ukrai...different-wars

Kyiv and Moscow Are Fighting Two Different Wars

What the War in Ukraine Has Revealed About Contemporary Conflict

By Lawrence Freedman

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Old 19th Feb 2023, 09:12
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News: The US has recently begun seeing “disturbing” signs that Beijing wants to “creep up to the line” of providing lethal military aid to Russia without getting caught. US officials have been concerned enough that they have been sharing this intelligence w/allies at Munich.

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Originally Posted by ORAC
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ukrai...different-wars

Kyiv and Moscow Are Fighting Two Different Wars

What the War in Ukraine Has Revealed About Contemporary Conflict

By Lawrence Freedman
I hoped for better. It did not really add anything that has not been said before.
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