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Is Ukraine about to have a war?

Old 15th Feb 2023, 21:29
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Originally Posted by henra
??? You are trusting Russian claims more than US statements? Interesting....
The story includes an acknowledgement from the Ukrainians that they have a problem though unsurprisingly they deny there is a breakthrough. They are on the spot whereas the US are not.
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Old 15th Feb 2023, 21:46
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interesting to see him talking about a ‘limited nuclear war’. I thought it was illegal there to talk about a war
Only at Fawltsky Towerski.
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Old 15th Feb 2023, 22:51
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According the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) Russia lost around 50% of its pre-invasion fleet of modern T-72B3s and T-72B3M main battle tanks. The inventory of T-80BV/U tanks is estimated to have been reduced by even two-thirds.

https://www.iiss.org/blogs/analysis/...-event-remarks

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Old 15th Feb 2023, 23:45
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Originally Posted by ORAC
According the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) Russia lost around 50% of its pre-invasion fleet of modern T-72B3s and T-72B3M main battle tanks. The inventory of T-80BV/U tanks is estimated to have been reduced by even two-thirds.

https://www.iiss.org/blogs/analysis/...-event-remarks
And yet there still seems to be no shortage of Russian tanks.
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Old 16th Feb 2023, 09:03
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1/7 The situation in the Vuhledar area remains stable, however, the enemy doesn't seem to reduce the pressure despite losses. The tactics remain the same: advancing infantry groups covered by tank and artillery fire.….

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The Times:

“Russia is losing as many as 2,000 men for every 100 yards gained in human wave assaults in eastern Ukraine, according to Nato intelligence.”
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Old 16th Feb 2023, 09:42
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Originally Posted by Ninthace
And yet there still seems to be no shortage of Russian tanks.
Maybe not in Ukraine, but the rest of Russia is probably being bled dry to sustain operations.
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Old 16th Feb 2023, 09:55
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E4b USAF

First time I have seen an E4B doing loops over Estonia on FR24
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Somethings burning in Crimea

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Old 16th Feb 2023, 11:51
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I know it is a long read, but it is definitely a 'know thine enemy' piece.

https://ekspress.delfi.ee/artikkel/1...ussian-cruelty
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Originally Posted by Wokkafans
She cashed in her chips then.

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Ukrainian "tug boats" hit

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Old 16th Feb 2023, 16:47
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Originally Posted by Ninthace
And yet there still seems to be no shortage of Russian tanks.
The use of infantry to attack suggests otherwise.
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Originally Posted by peter we
The use of infantry to attack suggests otherwise.
The problem with that is you need to send them over in sufficient numbers to literally swamp the defence and I am talking thousands at once as they did during WW2, sending them over in lots of 50ish does nothing and is simply squandering your resources for nothing.
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Old 16th Feb 2023, 18:03
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Originally Posted by peter we
The use of infantry to attack suggests otherwise.
Attacks using tanks with no infantry support is not a real good idea.
Conversely attacks using infantry with no tank or other armoured support is not a good idea either.
Both are lose, lose scenarios.


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As an aside I think that with all the $$$$$++++++ NATO has spent on defence that when push comes to shove and we don’t have huge supplies of ammunition is blatant incompetence. 2 years to produce more? Good gawd what was the plan if NATO itself had been attacked? Go ugly (nuclear) early?
Some think that they just want to supply enough arms and munitions to let the war drag on.
Heavens forbid that they allow Ukraine to target stuff far inside Russia because “It may be seen as a provocation”. Talk about having to fight with one arm tied behind your back. Repelling a vicious attack by the local insane bully is not a boxing match with a referee and the Marquess of Queensberry Rules!
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Old 16th Feb 2023, 18:13
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Originally Posted by albatross
Good gawd what was the plan if NATO itself had been attacked? Go ugly (nuclear) early?
There was no plan?!
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Old 16th Feb 2023, 18:35
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Originally Posted by henra
There was no plan?!
Indeed, it has exposed our own failures. Let's hope we learn from this!

P.S. Don't have much hope!
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Old 16th Feb 2023, 18:37
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Originally Posted by albatross
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As an aside I think that with all the $$$$$++++++ NATO has spent on defence that when push comes to shove and we don’t have huge supplies of ammunition is blatant incompetence. 2 years to produce more? Good gawd what was the plan if NATO itself had been attacked? Go ugly (nuclear) early?
That's been a problem with military readiness for years. Ammo, spares/parts, maintenance, etc. are not 'sexy' - new kit is 'sexy', so new stuff gets the money while the readiness of the existing stuff gets neglected.
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Old 16th Feb 2023, 19:21
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Of course with the new financial year a few weeks away, nothing like a bit of extra stirring the defence dough to get a favourable slice of budget pie.
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