Is Ukraine about to have a war?
There was a plan.
The plan was based on never going to war, so we only require what we need to cover minimum training needs and a few yearly exercises......and therefore we can use that wonderful civilian method of JIT direct from the suppliers
and we can save a fortune by getting rids of all those expensive storage facilities and personnel to look after it all.
Job done, box ticked, where's my tea and medals?
The plan was based on never going to war, so we only require what we need to cover minimum training needs and a few yearly exercises......and therefore we can use that wonderful civilian method of JIT direct from the suppliers

Job done, box ticked, where's my tea and medals?

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There was a plan.
The plan was based on never going to war, so we only require what we need to cover minimum training needs and a few yearly exercises......and therefore we can use that wonderful civilian method of JIT direct from the suppliers
and we can save a fortune by getting rids of all those expensive storage facilities and personnel to look after it all.
Job done, box ticked, where's my tea and medals?
The plan was based on never going to war, so we only require what we need to cover minimum training needs and a few yearly exercises......and therefore we can use that wonderful civilian method of JIT direct from the suppliers

Job done, box ticked, where's my tea and medals?
Supply would be reduced to tears as they had become quite attached to it. Joke Over.
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Joke. A military friend used to call yearly exercises “ The Annual Firing of the Shell “ which after missing by a mile, would be retrieved after a long search, polished up for use next year and returned to stores. According to him if it wasn’t found reams of paperwork on “Shell, Sn 17657 Lose of” would be required, Courts martial, demotions in rank and seniority for those not responsible would follow.
Supply would be reduced to tears as they had become quite attached to it. Joke Over.
Supply would be reduced to tears as they had become quite attached to it. Joke Over.
I seem to remember they were also used later in smaller sizes for dropping buildings on top of the bad guys without a blast to protect those around the buildings perimeter, the weight and momentum of the guided bomb causing the building to collapse in on itself killing those inside.
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A sad sight unharvested Sunflowers, one hopes the farmers have survived.

You may joke, aviation wise why do you think we had practice thousand pound bombs painted blue, they were full of concrete and could be dropped and recovered, a new tail fin fitted and used again.
I seem to remember they were also used later in smaller sizes for dropping buildings on top of the bad guys without a blast to protect those around the buildings perimeter, the weight and momentum of the guided bomb causing the building to collapse in on itself killing those inside.
but we are ALL drifting including me
I seem to remember they were also used later in smaller sizes for dropping buildings on top of the bad guys without a blast to protect those around the buildings perimeter, the weight and momentum of the guided bomb causing the building to collapse in on itself killing those inside.
but we are ALL drifting including me

Norman says he is not pedantic.

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Color coding is not on a weapon to help you find it afterwards, its an international agreement, Blue happens to be a practice round.
https://quizlet.com/122690667/ammuni...s-flash-cards/
Color coding is not on a weapon to help you find it afterwards, its an international agreement, Blue happens to be a practice round.
https://quizlet.com/122690667/ammuni...s-flash-cards/

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You may joke, aviation wise why do you think we had practice thousand pound bombs painted blue, they were full of concrete and could be dropped and recovered, a new tail fin fitted and used again.
I seem to remember they were also used later in smaller sizes for dropping buildings on top of the bad guys without a blast to protect those around the buildings perimeter, the weight and momentum of the guided bomb causing the building to collapse in on itself killing those inside.
but we are ALL drifting including me
I seem to remember they were also used later in smaller sizes for dropping buildings on top of the bad guys without a blast to protect those around the buildings perimeter, the weight and momentum of the guided bomb causing the building to collapse in on itself killing those inside.
but we are ALL drifting including me


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Su-24M2 tactical bomber seen over Kherson Oblast today.

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Color coding is not on a weapon to help you find it afterwards, its an international agreement, Blue happens to be a practice round.
https://quizlet.com/122690667/ammuni...s-flash-cards/
Color coding is not on a weapon to help you find it afterwards, its an international agreement, Blue happens to be a practice round.
https://quizlet.com/122690667/ammuni...s-flash-cards/

During the Battle of the River Plate two blue practice rounds were fired at the Scharnhorst. They came up on the hoist and so had to be got rid of. Being solid rounds they did quite a bit of damage. The damage was recorded in the ships damage report shortly before being scuttled.

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You may joke, aviation wise why do you think we had practice thousand pound bombs painted blue, they were full of concrete and could be dropped and recovered, a new tail fin fitted and used again.
I seem to remember they were also used later in smaller sizes for dropping buildings on top of the bad guys
I seem to remember they were also used later in smaller sizes for dropping buildings on top of the bad guys
Iraqis positioned their aircraft*, tanks etc around mosques, hospitals, schools etc so they’d be safe from attack because of the collateral damage.
A practice bomb with an LGB kit proved more than effective at totally destroying a tank or aircraft etc without damaging the building alongside.
*They towed the aircraft off the airfield and towed it back before a sortie.
https://www.nytimes.com/1999/10/07/w...rete-bomb.html
A problem which also led to the development of the SDB and the R9X.

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That leaves 4999 donated German helmets.. very lucky guy

Attacks using tanks with no infantry support is not a real good idea.
Conversely attacks using infantry with no tank or other armoured support is not a good idea either.
Both are lose, lose scenarios.
MINOR RANT
As an aside I think that with all the $$$$$++++++ NATO has spent on defence that when push comes to shove and we don’t have huge supplies of ammunition is blatant incompetence. 2 years to produce more? Good gawd what was the plan if NATO itself had been attacked? Go ugly (nuclear) early?
Some think that they just want to supply enough arms and munitions to let the war drag on.
Heavens forbid that they allow Ukraine to target stuff far inside Russia because “It may be seen as a provocation”. Talk about having to fight with one arm tied behind your back. Repelling a vicious attack by the local insane bully is not a boxing match with a referee and the Marquess of Queensberry Rules!
Conversely attacks using infantry with no tank or other armoured support is not a good idea either.
Both are lose, lose scenarios.
MINOR RANT
As an aside I think that with all the $$$$$++++++ NATO has spent on defence that when push comes to shove and we don’t have huge supplies of ammunition is blatant incompetence. 2 years to produce more? Good gawd what was the plan if NATO itself had been attacked? Go ugly (nuclear) early?
Some think that they just want to supply enough arms and munitions to let the war drag on.
Heavens forbid that they allow Ukraine to target stuff far inside Russia because “It may be seen as a provocation”. Talk about having to fight with one arm tied behind your back. Repelling a vicious attack by the local insane bully is not a boxing match with a referee and the Marquess of Queensberry Rules!

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Reported build up of 10,000 Russian troops in Sumy

That is very interesting, though disturbing. I'd like to blame it all on Putin.
Someone posted a link to a similar publication from another baltic nation intelligence service which I can not find anymore.
I know it is a long read, but it is definitely a 'know thine enemy' piece.
https://ekspress.delfi.ee/artikkel/1...ussian-cruelty
Someone posted a link to a similar publication from another baltic nation intelligence service which I can not find anymore.
I know it is a long read, but it is definitely a 'know thine enemy' piece.
https://ekspress.delfi.ee/artikkel/1...ussian-cruelty

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More on the Russian build up near Sumy
https://twitter.com/search?q=Sumy&src=typed_query
I do wonder if this is the reason Lukashenko warns Belarus will join Russia if it comes under attack, it is to try and prevent Ukraine striking the Russian armour parks and the troop concentrations before the attack begins and thwarting it.
I personally think the only reason he hasn’t joined the war so far is he realises his position is tolerated and if he did his army and people may well revolt and oust him with prejudice. Russia are keeping him in power but with the way things are going I think they would be pushed / struggle to come to his aid.
https://twitter.com/search?q=Sumy&src=typed_query
I do wonder if this is the reason Lukashenko warns Belarus will join Russia if it comes under attack, it is to try and prevent Ukraine striking the Russian armour parks and the troop concentrations before the attack begins and thwarting it.
I personally think the only reason he hasn’t joined the war so far is he realises his position is tolerated and if he did his army and people may well revolt and oust him with prejudice. Russia are keeping him in power but with the way things are going I think they would be pushed / struggle to come to his aid.

short flights long nights
I see another person has thrown herself out a window…
Marina Yankina a top Russian defence official was found dead after falling out of window from the 16th floor of a tower block….she was a key figure in getting funding for Putin for the war.
Marina Yankina a top Russian defence official was found dead after falling out of window from the 16th floor of a tower block….she was a key figure in getting funding for Putin for the war.

UXB,
I think you mean Admiral Graf Spee - Scharnhorst was not at the River Plate action in 1939 (although I'm not sure about the action in 1914 off the Falklands but that's a different ship)
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I think you mean Admiral Graf Spee - Scharnhorst was not at the River Plate action in 1939 (although I'm not sure about the action in 1914 off the Falklands but that's a different ship)
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