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Is Ukraine about to have a war?

Old 4th Jan 2023, 16:48
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Ah the old Zero Doppler (or ZD) Notch - a valid heli tactic in the 80's against ground and air threats

What, apply the rotor-brake? 😊

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Old 4th Jan 2023, 17:14
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IIRC correctly, in the early days of Phalanx the USN shot down one of their own helos of Lebanon which, approaching at what was believed a speed below the set minimum engagement speed, the system locked onto and engaged its rotor blades…
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More vehicles delivered to Ukraine, this time 42 MRAPs

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Old 4th Jan 2023, 17:39
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Originally Posted by ORAC
It’s clear now that ukr has switched its targeting from ammo to troops. more and more troop concentrations are being hit driving up the numbers of russian dead. this morning they hit another one. if ukr is saying that 720 (aprox) then triple it to get the true KIA/MIA number
Not just that, you then tie up other troops in recovery, medical and transport, what was it they used to say, a wounded soldier tied up three to look after them, hence it was better wounding than killing as it was a greater burden on resources.
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Not just that, you then tie up other troops in recovery, medical and transport, what was it they used to say, a wounded soldier tied up three to look after them, hence it was better wounding than killing as it was a greater burden on resources.
Yes, but do the Russians care? Lot's of evidence they don't do much for their seriously wounded; the New York Times yesterday had a story about a doctor who fled Belarus early in the war. He was basically drafted by the Russians and fled because he thought they were going to send him to the front. His description of the way wounded were treated by the Russians was horrific.
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Originally Posted by Mogwi
What, apply the rotor-brake? 😊

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Old 4th Jan 2023, 18:34
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
What about buying and lobbing some unguided model rockets at them, this one cost 20K and climbed to 70 thousand plus and mach 2 ?

https://www.vice.com/en/article/bjv5...gn=sharebutton
I've never been to BALLS, but I'm an avid high-power rocket enthusiast and have many friends that regularly attend BALLS (BTW, there have been flights at BALLS to over 100k).
Yes, you can make unguided rockets relatively cheap, but the key point is that they are unguided. That's why flights such as the one shown are done in the middle of a big dry lakebed - you literally have no idea where it's going to come down. Less accurate than artillery, and while potentially longer range than artillery, accuracy gets even worse.
You need to make them guided before they would be an effective weapon (unless you're just trying to make it a terror weapon).
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Old 4th Jan 2023, 21:04
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Originally Posted by tdracer
I've never been to BALLS, but I'm an avid high-power rocket enthusiast and have many friends that regularly attend BALLS (BTW, there have been flights at BALLS to over 100k).
Yes, you can make unguided rockets relatively cheap, but the key point is that they are unguided. That's why flights such as the one shown are done in the middle of a big dry lakebed - you literally have no idea where it's going to come down. Less accurate than artillery, and while potentially longer range than artillery, accuracy gets even worse.
You need to make them guided before they would be an effective weapon (unless you're just trying to make it a terror weapon).
Yes but I was thinking using a really cheap unguided rocket pointed in the General direction as a ground to air bait to draw more expensive Russian defence missiles into the air.
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They should have told them they will recycle it into another shell for delivery back to Ukraine.
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You know we always have to climb to let you find us on a fighter affil sortie

This puppy didn't climb!!

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Old 5th Jan 2023, 03:09
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Can that be inscribed with his name and remitted once more for some effect?
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Originally Posted by John Marsh
I must admit, I feel no dismay at the hazardous practices on display. I would much prefer Russian forces personnel to annihilate themselves than any Ukrainian, military or civilian.

I am aware that war brings an awful, bloody loss of life. I have been mildly surprised at how fast I started to negate the value of the Russian forces' lives in this war. So be it. The sooner this is over, the better.
JM, in the middle of naked aggression and war crimes committed by Putin, Wagner, the contingent from Chechnya, it doesn't seem to be out of order to desire that the aggressors are stopped by any means necessary. That some of their cohorts are less than willing participants is an unpleasant fact, but they have 1/3rd of their flag that is white bunting, they can take action to save their own lives and provide some mitigation to the disgrace that Russia has become under yet another sociopathic egotistical leader.

There is a fast way for the Russians to get home safely, and that is by doing what they did in 1917 and taking out the deadwood that commands them and the political criminals that have caused the suffering of those countries unfortunate enough to have Russia as a neighbour.
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Old 5th Jan 2023, 07:10
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Russians have started to disguise their military fuel (and possibly other) trucks as logging trucks.



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Old 5th Jan 2023, 08:05
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Originally Posted by ORAC
Russians have started to disguise their military fuel (and possibly other) trucks as logging trucks.
that will decrease the payload nicely unless the logs are photos of logs.
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Originally Posted by langleybaston
that will decrease the payload nicely unless the logs are photos of logs.
Doubt if Orcs clever enough
​​​​​​​From the open panel, I suggest they're thin planks of sawn logs.
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I had a wooden lorry once - wooden engine, wooden wheels, wooden gearbox - wooden go..............A des O'Connor joke from the 70's I think
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When the fun stops..... STOP!

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I had a wooden lorry once - wooden engine, wooden wheels, wooden gearbox - wooden go..............A des O'Connor joke from the 70's I think
What a pity that we no longer have Des O'Connor available as a secret weapon, to entertain the Ruzzian troops.

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Originally Posted by ORAC
Russians have started to disguise their military fuel (and possibly other) trucks as logging trucks.
Won't it still look like a truck on an IR or LL light camera? Also with all the troubles the russians are having, transporting logs on army trucks looks a bit suspicous.



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Old 5th Jan 2023, 10:22
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Originally Posted by [email protected]
Ah the old Zero Doppler (or ZD) Notch - a valid heli tactic in the 80's against ground and air threats
Windows a coax rotor have zero Doppler or double Doppler? The wavelength needed would give the min PW and then whats it gonna see?
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