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Is Ukraine about to have a war?

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Old 10th Dec 2022, 13:46
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"We are not Ukraine" means what exactly?
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Old 10th Dec 2022, 15:08
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One of the Russians that is on YouTube fled to Kazakhstan a couple of months ago, as he didn't need a visa to get there and had worked there, so knew the country. Not the most riveting of YouTubers from Russia, but he has highlighted the growing support for Ukraine within Kazakhstan, including what seemed to be fairly large anti-Russia, pro-Ukraine demonstrations. From the little I've watched of his content, there looks to have been a shift towards a more anti-Russian stance there. What I'm not sure about is the impact that may have on Russia, as Kazakhstan has the largest reserves of oil, gas and other valuable minerals in that region, so has the wealth to put up a significant defence, and, perhaps more importantly, to seem attractive if it seeks alliances with the West.
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Old 10th Dec 2022, 16:07
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If the RNHF Sea Vixen is anything to go by most likely a write off. Does a lot of damage to the underside scraping several tons down a concrete runway.
Could this have been pilot error, a wheels up rather than malfunction?
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Old 10th Dec 2022, 16:09
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Would someone happen to know why wouldn't the Su-25 didn't shut down the donks straight away? Just curious.
Why are the engines called donks?
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Old 10th Dec 2022, 16:52
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Why are the engines called donks?
Short for 'donkey' ie. the thing that does the work/provides power.
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Old 10th Dec 2022, 17:37
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Usual caveats.



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Old 10th Dec 2022, 18:52
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​​​​​​​BREAKING: Serbia to ask NATO peacekeeping mission in Kosovo to allow it to deploy Serbian military and police troops in Kosovo, Serbia's president Vucic says - Reuters
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Old 10th Dec 2022, 19:15
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Serbia can F Off!

It's about time Kosovo was recognised by the UN as a Sovereign nation.
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Old 10th Dec 2022, 19:51
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BREAKING: Serbia to ask NATO peacekeeping mission in Kosovo to allow it to deploy Serbian military and police troops in Kosovo, Serbia's president Vucic says - Reuters
Have they not been paying attention? Daddy Russia is having their arse handed to them by Ukraine/NATO/The West/Satanists/Nazis* (delete as appropriate for today's propaganda). They have no one in their corner.

​​​​​​​Perhaps a day trip to The Hague is required for their political leaders, to remind them where their idiocy ends up?
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Old 10th Dec 2022, 21:08
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Starting to kick off in Kosovo….

​​​​​​​Kosovo police say that several roads in the north have been blocked and that their police units have been fired at on three occasions. Police were forced to respond with gunfire. Gunshots have also been heard in numerous locations ….
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Old 10th Dec 2022, 23:16
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Old 10th Dec 2022, 23:50
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The first sensible thing he has said.

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Old 11th Dec 2022, 00:35
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Graphic.

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Old 11th Dec 2022, 00:50
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TableTopBill's Marlboro MLRS is sited among yucca plants. Admirable range
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Old 11th Dec 2022, 04:40
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Take it these are some of the barrack unfortunates, total lack of medical help by the look of it.\





https://twitter.com/Umbisam/status/1601724557735342081
Gotta ask, why would anyone take time to make a video while people are dying or need attention?
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Old 11th Dec 2022, 06:49
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"… why would anyone take time to make a video …"

Because from a viewpoint with hindsight it suggests that we do not understand the horror of war, no experience of such situations, and where every situation differs, evolves, and how people react.
Not a conscious or rational choice; humans are not rational however much we believe otherwise, particularly after the fact.

Take a different view; is there anything else that could be done in these situations; magnitude of situation, lack facilities, ongoing activity - shock.
A picture is a snapshot, not the story or an appropriate interpretation.

Our reactions - in such situation or our interpretation from video, represent the limits of mind, inability to relate to situations beyond comprehension, which regrettably in the modern world we substitute simulation with video games.
Also see posts on 'glorification' - misrepresentation of war via social media.
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Old 11th Dec 2022, 07:28
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(1/3) On 5 December 2022, President Putin signed the law on Russia’s Federal Budget. Draft budgets have stated over 9 trillion rubles (US $143bn) will be allocated across defence, security and law enforcement in 2023.
(2/3) This is a significant increase compared to prior years and will represent over 30 per cent of Russia’s entire budget.
(3/3) The budget approved by Putin is likely over-optimistic in its expectation of revenue and spending in 2023. Therefore, other parts of Russia’s budget are likely to come under increasing pressure to support the costs of the war.

(is this thread broken due to length ?)

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Old 11th Dec 2022, 07:32
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Weren't regional governments told already that they cannot expect central government funding anymore and that they should provide their own budget? This feels like a new time bomb ticking.
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Old 11th Dec 2022, 08:13
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Originally Posted by alf5071h
"… why would anyone take time to make a video …"

Because from a viewpoint with hindsight it....

...Our reactions...
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.... represent the limits of mind,
Oh, please.

Because they arrived uninvited, tortured innocent bystanders, and deserve to burn. Because he respects their choice.

The deed is done.
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Old 11th Dec 2022, 08:33
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Originally Posted by FlightDetent
Oh, please.

Because they arrived uninvited, tortured innocent bystanders, and deserve to burn. Because he respects their choice.

The deed is done.
???
The guy filming was for sure a comrade. The question why he filmed instead of helping is legitimate as is the answer that people under shock do strange stuff.
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