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Old 14th Oct 2022, 10:46
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Just an update..
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Old 14th Oct 2022, 11:06
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Look East?

Originally Posted by Beamr
On that note, Belarusian news agency Nexta reports that a "Anti-terrorist operation" has been announced due to threat of neighboring countries. Also reports in telegram of men under the age of 27 declined to leave the country.

Somethings cooking. Probably belarusian troops in their IFVs.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1580793587893432321
Do we know of any terrorist country which is neighbouring Belarus, which could be a threat to them?
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Old 14th Oct 2022, 11:27
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Originally Posted by HOVIS
Who is paying for the military equipment being given to Ukraine? I assume it to be the US government.
Do you mean everything, from everywhere ? Why do you assume that ?
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Old 14th Oct 2022, 11:30
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Originally Posted by nevillestyke
Do we know of any terrorist country which is neighbouring Belarus, which could be a threat to them?
Maybe the Belarusians have finally figured that out themselves as well...
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Old 14th Oct 2022, 11:56
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Should've gone to SpecSavers.

"Russian forces claimed to take out a Ukrainian Buk-M1 SAM TELAR using a ZALA Lancet loitering munition....but actually destroyed an obvious decoy."

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Old 14th Oct 2022, 11:58
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What's life like for newly-mobilised Russian troops in their barracks and temporary accomodation?

Terrible, from all accounts, with no heating, no food, no sleeping bags, no hot water, no toilets, freezing tents, bedbug-infested mattresses and no training. 🧵 follows.
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Old 14th Oct 2022, 12:52
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AFP:

French giant TotalEnergies is facing legal action for 'complicity in war crimes' for allegedly helping fuel Russian planes that have bombed Ukraine, a source close to the case says

A French and a Ukrainian association lodged a complaint against the group on Thursday.
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Aviation content:

They mobilised the co pilot of this airliner awaiting take off and banned him from crossing the border, resulting in the flight being cancelled..

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Ukrainian estimates of Russia's remaining missile stocks




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Old 14th Oct 2022, 14:15
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Originally Posted by ORAC
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...774829568.html

What's life like for newly-mobilised Russian troops in their barracks and temporary accomodation?

Terrible, from all accounts, with no heating, no food, no sleeping bags, no hot water, no toilets, freezing tents, bedbug-infested mattresses and no training. 🧵 follows.
Here's a link about 'mobilization' in Moscow. Seems they're randomly rounding men up.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...858404354.html
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Ukrainian Aviation at work.





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Russians taking out Ukrainian vehicles crossing a bridge..

Watch it in slow mo, the first hit is on a vehicle lying on its side. the second one is on a vehicle that is half off the bridge and looks immobile and the third one appears to have been hit as the bridge at the side of it near the front is already blown away.

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Perhaps a waste of ammo but whatever, that's 3 Ukrainian vehicles less in action. Not good!
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Old 14th Oct 2022, 15:06
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Russians taking out Ukrainian vehicles crossing a bridge..

Watch it in slow mo, the first hit is on a vehicle lying on its side. the second one is on a vehicle that is half off the bridge and looks immobile and the third one appears to have been hit as the bridge at the side of it near the front is already blown away.



https://twitter.com/Rusich_Z/status/1580925767437156353
Just before the 3rd 'hit' shouldnt we be seeing smoke from the second 'hit'?
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Originally Posted by fdr
There has been some interesting analysis done on the economics of Starlink... and the means by which it ever becomes economic seems to be elusive. Unicorn type elusive. Love what has been done with Falcon, the entry burn and landing burns are stunning concepts and implementation, but startling other than interfering with NEO tracking. It has made a difference in Ukraine "tho"...
The Starlink network is currently owned by SpaceX. I've previously looked at the economics of both SpaceX and of Starlink. My memory of Starlink is that about now it should be going cash-flow positive though I haven't followed the data recently to check whether that memory would still hold true with the current launch rate, fee rates, etc. The economics are really really good by the way. The reason I haven't followed the data is that the only route to buying a shareholding in Starlink is by buying a shareholding in SpaceX itself. And since SpaceX is pre-IPO that means one needs to go into the private market. Plus there are restrictions on who can hold SpaceX shares, for example US citizen (or ?? green card holder) only as well as $-million minimum purchase amount. Nevertheless SpaceX economics are also very attractive and so I have actually looked into buying via various US funds that have a over-exposure to SpaceX, but again in practice this is pretty difficult for reasons I won't bore you with. Bottom line though is that don't believe all you read about SpaceX economics being iffy, quite the reverse*. I am sure everyone here does not need to be reminded of the enormous military importance of assured space access.

Credit where credit is due - Musk and SpaceX and US gov (who call the shots) have done a cracking job of giving Ukraine a viable vital communications system in a hurry and for the last 9-months. A real shame that Musk has made some media mis-steps that have turned that positive altruism into ashes in his mouth.

Something else that is relevant is that this is giving Starlink (and US DoD et al) a really good workout at what it takes to harden a military grade Starlink. That's not something you get a chance to do in vivo at scale every day of the week.

* if you want to dig into this some more, try this link
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/thre...-thread.15082/
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Old 14th Oct 2022, 18:00
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Ooops…

Remember the 🇩🇪 IT company @janboehm revealed is a russian company founded by an ex-KGB agent? I spoke w/ cybersecurity experts about it & yes, it gets worse.

The investigation revealed "German" IT company #Protelion is in fact a cover entity of the RUSSIAN company #Infotecs, founded in 1991 by ex-KGB officer Andrey Chapchaev. Andrey received an Order for Merit to the Fatherland this year from: Vladimir Putin. Can't imagine what for.

Protelion had opportunity to compromise every company that used their software & give Moscow access to their network

Protelion/Infotecs sold software in 🇩🇪 for yrs that scans IT networks for vulnerabilities *from the inside*. That means:
  • They could report vulnerabilities to russia
  • Bc the software is installed by the admin they'd be able to plant other software & time bombs in the network

That means **any of the 1M+ companies that have used Infotecs/Protelion software may be potentially spied on & compromised by russia**
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Old 14th Oct 2022, 18:52
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Returning to the T62 topic, Ukraine has captured some rounds for T62, gives a good idea what they have available.
Firstly, most is of poor performance compared to todays standards (LAWs do better). As second, they're past their shelf life by decades.


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Remember the 🇩🇪 IT company @janboehm revealed is a russian company founded by an ex-KGB agent? I spoke w/ cybersecurity experts about it & yes, it gets worse.

The investigation revealed "German" IT company #Protelion is in fact a cover entity of the RUSSIAN company #Infotecs, founded in 1991 by ex-KGB officer Andrey Chapchaev. Andrey received an Order for Merit to the Fatherland this year from: Vladimir Putin. Can't imagine what for.

Protelion had opportunity to compromise every company that used their software & give Moscow access to their network

Protelion/Infotecs sold software in 🇩🇪 for yrs that scans IT networks for vulnerabilities *from the inside*. That means:"
  • They could report vulnerabilities to russia
  • Bc the software is installed by the admin they'd be able to plant other software & time bombs in the network

That means **any of the 1M+ companies that have used Infotecs/Protelion software may be potentially spied on & compromised by russia*
Perhaps I am too dumb. ORAC, but I have no idea what you wish to convey. Is it too secret ? Too hidden ? Please do tell us when you feel it it is is necessary.

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Old 14th Oct 2022, 18:58
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"Video of the Russian Army firing a missile against their own territory by accident."

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