Is Ukraine about to have a war?
Re WWW 3
Things could easily spiral out of control. Look at the shyte storm right after pieces of a Ukrainian anti air missal landed in Poland with 2 dead. Imagine what would happen if it was a defective Russian cruise missal that blundered into Poland and landed in one of their cities killing hundreds. Everything that the USA has done has been carefully calibrated to try to avoid going up the escalatory ladder. Avoiding WWW3 is job one for Biden.
Failure in Ukraine means failure for Putin. It is not unreasonable to think that this puts Putins life in danger. If you think you are going to get killed when you are overthrown where is the downside in starting WWW3 ?
Things could easily spiral out of control. Look at the shyte storm right after pieces of a Ukrainian anti air missal landed in Poland with 2 dead. Imagine what would happen if it was a defective Russian cruise missal that blundered into Poland and landed in one of their cities killing hundreds. Everything that the USA has done has been carefully calibrated to try to avoid going up the escalatory ladder. Avoiding WWW3 is job one for Biden.
Failure in Ukraine means failure for Putin. It is not unreasonable to think that this puts Putins life in danger. If you think you are going to get killed when you are overthrown where is the downside in starting WWW3 ?

Russia has no more invasion force to do the big attack on the West. They could still go to the Baltic states but that will just trigger a big NATO reaction with nothing to gain. They will likely be busy enough keeping all internal powers in equilibrium, military, FSB, Wagner, Guard, mobilised people and others to fight who will get the power. They will focus inside not outside. WW3 is not that likely anymore but any Russian implosion might end nasty. Something between Romania end of 1989 and the post Tito Balkans war on steroids.
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I have read a few threads re WW3…
Wow, but at the end of the day we need to remember this isn’t a video game, real people are dying close to Christmas, and on either side there will be grieving mothers, families and children, the only thing war brings regardless of the rights or wrongs is misery.
Wow, but at the end of the day we need to remember this isn’t a video game, real people are dying close to Christmas, and on either side there will be grieving mothers, families and children, the only thing war brings regardless of the rights or wrongs is misery.

Just to remind you, I wrote: We see a version or a rehearsal for WW III ................... just not like the books used to say



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Both sides seem keen on Soccer.


The parallels to Hitler in April 1945 are too real to ignore. Hitler decided that German had let him down and wasn't worthy of surviving - so in his twisted mind there was nothing that would have prevented him from going to MAD if he'd had the capability. Putin's actions the last year have come right out of Hitler's playbook.

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My hope is those around Putin would prevent his last throw of the dice as most of them will have families and children.

Here is a pertinent document that I read recently, published by The House of Lords:
https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/w...clear-weapons/
https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/w...clear-weapons/

Here is a pertinent document that I read recently, published by The House of Lords:
https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/w...clear-weapons/
https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/w...clear-weapons/
This article summarises recent developments in the war between Russia and Ukraine and assessments of whether Russia could use tactical nuclear weapons in the conflict. Tactical nuclear weapons are designed for use on the battlefield, and they have lower explosive yields than ‘strategic’ nuclear weapons. Commentators have argued that the risk of Russia using tactical nuclear weapons is low, but it could rise if Russia faced defeat in Ukraine.


This should be interesting, Ukrainian kamikaze drone with payload of 75kg and range of 1000km has passed initial tests and looking to be in combat use by the end of the year.
I hope the news reaches Kremlin in the form of a successful test flight.
These Ukrainians really don't waste time in their weapons development.
""After we successfully test the drone under the influence of EW, we hope to be able to test it in combat use. We promised by the end of this year, we are trying to fulfill this promise," said the spokeswoman of Ukrobornprom."
https://www.ukrinform.ua/rubric-tech...iprobuvan.html
I hope the news reaches Kremlin in the form of a successful test flight.
These Ukrainians really don't waste time in their weapons development.
""After we successfully test the drone under the influence of EW, we hope to be able to test it in combat use. We promised by the end of this year, we are trying to fulfill this promise," said the spokeswoman of Ukrobornprom."
https://www.ukrinform.ua/rubric-tech...iprobuvan.html

This should be interesting, Ukrainian kamikaze drone with payload of 75kg and range of 1000km has passed initial tests and looking to be in combat use by the end of the year.
I hope the news reaches Kremlin in the form of a successful test flight.
These Ukrainians really don't waste time in their weapons development.
""After we successfully test the drone under the influence of EW, we hope to be able to test it in combat use. We promised by the end of this year, we are trying to fulfill this promise," said the spokeswoman of Ukrobornprom."
https://www.ukrinform.ua/rubric-tech...iprobuvan.html
I hope the news reaches Kremlin in the form of a successful test flight.
These Ukrainians really don't waste time in their weapons development.
""After we successfully test the drone under the influence of EW, we hope to be able to test it in combat use. We promised by the end of this year, we are trying to fulfill this promise," said the spokeswoman of Ukrobornprom."
https://www.ukrinform.ua/rubric-tech...iprobuvan.html

The subtle distinction is it is intended for single use as distinct from a multi mission drone that delivers munitions then comes back for a refill. Kamikaze is more graphic and self explanatory than the term single mission drone and equally the term suicide drone would be just as inappropriate as it is not alive so cannot die. The German V-1 was just a poncy artillery shell as unlike a drone, it had no specific target beyond a general area.
