Is Ukraine about to have a war?
Drone interception
The drones from Iran, are an irritant or worse. Interdiction would seem to benefit from the use of a lower speed and agile aircraft, like a PC-7/9/21, Tucano or similar with a mini-gun. This won't survive in the front line, but away from he front lines SAMs, that would seem to be an option. AH-6 etc are a bit not he slow side to be able to intercept. Tracking radar is critical, but, Ukraine is pretty smart on putting systems together. Air to Air doesn't result in a high risk to the citizens on the ground, after the round has done its bit with converting kinetic energy to distance, the potential energy on its descent to the planet (blue one, not red, red is Elon's paradise). (there are lots of SO2Gs sitting in Belgrade awaiting buyers. They have twin M1 .50's in the nose, which is a bit more than desirable for drone plinking).
Heck, the Ukrainians can always invite the Russian student pilots to bring their rides along, with/without hot seats, and add some mini-guns under them and go plinking Iranian drone. They are only 150K US-250K US for clean ones with books. Guess the Russians won't be big on handing over the logs for any planes that get donated to Ukraine.... Pity.
Heck, the Ukrainians can always invite the Russian student pilots to bring their rides along, with/without hot seats, and add some mini-guns under them and go plinking Iranian drone. They are only 150K US-250K US for clean ones with books. Guess the Russians won't be big on handing over the logs for any planes that get donated to Ukraine.... Pity.
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It appears the training of the mobilised troops is going well, two of them have already racked up an impressive score during training.
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They are now blaming the Ukrainians for their failed missile launch in Belogrod and are getting complaints about mobilising chronic alcoholics.
https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/s...67856914755586
https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/s...67856914755586
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Thread on the problems the Russians are having with mobilised, non-combat experienced, officers not understanding the importance of drones.
Long may u5 continue - and something that should be hammered into the heads of the British and other NATO chains of command…
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...950434816.html
Long may u5 continue - and something that should be hammered into the heads of the British and other NATO chains of command…
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...950434816.html
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"An intelligence assessment shared in recent days with Ukrainian and U.S. officials contends that Iran’s armaments industry is preparing a first shipment of Fateh-110 and Zolfaghar missiles, two well-known Iranian short-range ballistic missiles" to Russia.
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Throwing untrained and unwilling troops into a meatgrinder to satisfy the ego of the Dear Leader with the predictable outcome.
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This morning it was reported that Iran is transferring ballistic missiles to Russia. The sufficiency of where Israel should stand in this bloody conflict will end. There is no room for self-righteousness anymore. The time has come for Ukraine to receive military aid as the USA and NATO countries do.
dunno what significance the "Israel's Minister of Diaspora Affairs" has in the grand scheme of things but he said
This morning it was reported that Iran is transferring ballistic missiles to Russia. The sufficiency of where Israel should stand in this bloody conflict will end. There is no room for self-righteousness anymore. The time has come for Ukraine to receive military aid as the USA and NATO countries do.
This morning it was reported that Iran is transferring ballistic missiles to Russia. The sufficiency of where Israel should stand in this bloody conflict will end. There is no room for self-righteousness anymore. The time has come for Ukraine to receive military aid as the USA and NATO countries do.
That sounds like good news for Ukraine and a diplomatic wet fish slap from Israel to Vlad.
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More on Iran to supply ballistic missiles to Russia.
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Egypt urging all citizens to leave Ukraine
Kazakhstan has decided to evacuate all employees from its embassy in Kyiv.
China calls on its citizens to leave Ukraine immediately.
somethings up…
https://twitter.com/visegrad24
Kazakhstan has decided to evacuate all employees from its embassy in Kyiv.
China calls on its citizens to leave Ukraine immediately.
somethings up…
https://twitter.com/visegrad24
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“If someone runs back, we will kill them”……
This intercepted call reveals how defensive lines operate for the Russians: first in the line are convicts guarded by mobiks in the second line, who are in turn guarded by regular forces.
This intercepted call reveals how defensive lines operate for the Russians: first in the line are convicts guarded by mobiks in the second line, who are in turn guarded by regular forces.
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Ukrainian telegram channels heating up with reports of lots of Russian hardware in the air, aimed across Ukraine.
UAVs heading to western Ukraine, reports of several MIG31 from Belarus over Ukraine, numerous missiles all over Ukraine. CM heading towards Kyiv. AFU asking to post neither videos nor pictures of air defence.
UAVs heading to western Ukraine, reports of several MIG31 from Belarus over Ukraine, numerous missiles all over Ukraine. CM heading towards Kyiv. AFU asking to post neither videos nor pictures of air defence.
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Iran Giving Missiles to Russia
Report from the Washington Post, October 16, 2022 at 2:30 a.m. EDT
So they denied shooting down the Ukranian air liner (they eventually came clean) and now they deny supplying drones for use against Ukraine.
Field testing at its finest. 
Iran and Iraq traded hundreds of Theater Ballistic Missiles against each other back in the 1980's. Iran seems to have made home grown ones. They know what they are doing, so I wonder what Ukraine did to piss them off? Make them look bad about that air liner shoot down?
I wonder who that could be? 
So what is Russia paying to Iran, or providing to them, in return for this non-trivial shipment of modern weapons?
I am not sure what the TBMD posture of Ukraine is, but I doubt that it is very robust.
Some decades ago, the USAF was going a bit nuts about 'boost phase intercept' (large airliner sized aircraft zapping missiles with lasers as they took off) as the approach to defending against North Korean ballistic missiles of a similar class to the ones being provided by Iran. (I was very skeptical of that program, at the time). Have heard little to nothing about it since.
I wonder if it's been kept under wraps, or, if my skepticism was well founded.
That would be a very handy capability to employ at a time like this, if it works.
It may be like nuclear fusion as an energy source: "we are about 15 years away from solving this" as a decades long state of play.
The reports of a serious new front opening up from Belarus is disturbing: some months ago I asked "what if we are already in WW III and just don't know it yet?" The 'evacuate the embassy, all citizens leave Ukraine" signals from various countries doesn't make me feel any better.
... according toU.S. and allied security officials, secretly agreeing to send not only attack drones but also what some officials described as the first Iranian-made surface-to-surface missiles intended for use against Ukrainian cities and troop positions.
While Iranian weapons designers have struggled with reliability problems, the newest versions of the Fateh-110 and Zolfaghar are considered by experts to be both potent and reasonably accurate at relatively short distances, Nadimi said. Some models come with electrooptic guidance systems that allow missile operators to guide them in their final approach to the target. Iran previously provided the same missiles to proxy militia groups in the Middle East, most notably Houthi fighters in Yemen...{who} used them in attacks against oil refineries and other civilian targets in neighboring Gulf countries.
Independent news outlets in recent days published photos of the remains of what appear to be Iranian-made drones used in strikes against Ukrainian targets, calling into question Iran’s repeated denials that it has supplied such weapons to its ally Russia. Pentagon officials also publicly confirmed the use of Iranian drones in Russian airstrikes, as well as Ukraine’s success in shooting some of the drones down.
...Tehran dispatched officials to Russia on Sept. 18 to finalize terms for additional weapons shipments, including two types of Iranian surface-to-surface missiles, according to officials from a U.S.-allied country that closely monitors Iran’s weapons activity.
Fateh-110 and Zolfaghar missiles ... capable of striking targets at distances of 300 and 700 kilometers...it would be the first delivery of such missiles to Russia since the start of the war.
I am not sure what the TBMD posture of Ukraine is, but I doubt that it is very robust.
Some decades ago, the USAF was going a bit nuts about 'boost phase intercept' (large airliner sized aircraft zapping missiles with lasers as they took off) as the approach to defending against North Korean ballistic missiles of a similar class to the ones being provided by Iran. (I was very skeptical of that program, at the time). Have heard little to nothing about it since.
I wonder if it's been kept under wraps, or, if my skepticism was well founded.
That would be a very handy capability to employ at a time like this, if it works.
It may be like nuclear fusion as an energy source: "we are about 15 years away from solving this" as a decades long state of play.
The reports of a serious new front opening up from Belarus is disturbing: some months ago I asked "what if we are already in WW III and just don't know it yet?" The 'evacuate the embassy, all citizens leave Ukraine" signals from various countries doesn't make me feel any better.
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Aviation content:
"Ukrainian pilot on his mission. Two rockets at 1:18 and flew home above the road"
The music will not appeal to all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhpg...ый
"Ukrainian pilot on his mission. Two rockets at 1:18 and flew home above the road"
The music will not appeal to all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhpg...ый
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Aviation content:
"Ukrainian pilot on his mission. Two rockets at 1:18 and flew home above the road"
The music will not appeal to all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhpg...ый
"Ukrainian pilot on his mission. Two rockets at 1:18 and flew home above the road"
The music will not appeal to all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhpg...ый
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
HARM? Could be being fired in Pre-Briefed mode. Just reach the programmed launch point and pull the trigger.
“The HARM has four basic operating modes. The Pre-Brief, Pre-Emptive or Position-Known (PB/PE/POS) mode is a Lock On After Launch (LOAL) mode, and is used for standoff maximum range attacks on emitters of a known type and location, within several degrees of the missile boresight. This is the basic mode used by dedicated defence suppression (SEAD) aircraft such as the F-4G and Tornado ECR, or F-16CJ/HTS.
In PB/PE/POS mode, as used by the Tornado ECR or F-4G, the aircraft's Emitter Locating System (ELS) determines the identity and position of the target, which are downloaded to the missile. The launch aircraft will then toss the missile to impart the best possible range. The missile flies on inertial guidance until it acquires the target, and then homes to impact. The PB/PE/POS mode is essentially offensive and most commonly used when taking down an IADS.”
“The HARM has four basic operating modes. The Pre-Brief, Pre-Emptive or Position-Known (PB/PE/POS) mode is a Lock On After Launch (LOAL) mode, and is used for standoff maximum range attacks on emitters of a known type and location, within several degrees of the missile boresight. This is the basic mode used by dedicated defence suppression (SEAD) aircraft such as the F-4G and Tornado ECR, or F-16CJ/HTS.
In PB/PE/POS mode, as used by the Tornado ECR or F-4G, the aircraft's Emitter Locating System (ELS) determines the identity and position of the target, which are downloaded to the missile. The launch aircraft will then toss the missile to impart the best possible range. The missile flies on inertial guidance until it acquires the target, and then homes to impact. The PB/PE/POS mode is essentially offensive and most commonly used when taking down an IADS.”
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Russian channel Older than Edda: Reports of the transfer of "Daggers" (KH-47M2 Kinzhal missiles) to Belarus…
