Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Aircrew Forums > Military Aviation
Reload this Page >

Is Ukraine about to have a war?

Military Aviation A forum for the professionals who fly military hardware. Also for the backroom boys and girls who support the flying and maintain the equipment, and without whom nothing would ever leave the ground. All armies, navies and air forces of the world equally welcome here.

Is Ukraine about to have a war?

Old 29th Aug 2022, 08:11
  #8581 (permalink)  
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Peripatetic
Posts: 16,985
Received 1,358 Likes on 619 Posts
Reference #8575… Is Ukraine about to have a war?

Remarkable If👇checks out. This would be the most noteworthy displays yet of Ukrainian DEAD capability deep into enemy territory. To have one of your modern Air Defense systems harmed like this would be quite humiliating…..

According to Russia, a Oniks anti ship cruise missile malfunctioned and hit their own radar 🤣….
ORAC is offline  
Old 29th Aug 2022, 08:40
  #8582 (permalink)  
Guest
 
Join Date: Apr 2022
Posts: 481
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 10 Posts
Originally Posted by ORAC
Reference #8575… Is Ukraine about to have a war?



Remarkable If👇checks out. This would be the most noteworthy displays yet of Ukrainian DEAD capability deep into enemy territory. To have one of your modern Air Defense systems harmed like this would be quite humiliating…..

According to Russia, a Oniks anti ship cruise missile malfunctioned and hit their own radar 🤣….
Wasn't there a test of US systems a few years ago when the test aircraft overflew the radar system which didn't detect it?
uxb99 is offline  
Old 29th Aug 2022, 08:55
  #8583 (permalink)  
Guest
 
Join Date: Apr 2022
Posts: 481
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 10 Posts
Originally Posted by NutLoose
kA52 kill the other day attributed to Stormer.



https://nexth.city/ukrainewar/ka-52-...-alvis-stormer
All this social media. Isn't it bad news for the Ukranians to be telling the Russians what kit they are using? Or is it all academic?
uxb99 is offline  
Old 29th Aug 2022, 09:32
  #8584 (permalink)  
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Peripatetic
Posts: 16,985
Received 1,358 Likes on 619 Posts
All this social media. Isn't it bad news for the Ukranians to be telling the Russians what kit they are using? Or is it all academic?
The Russians know they’ve got it, and their helos have no defence against it.

In that regard it’s great psychops against Russian aircrew…

I’m reminded of a a dogfight many years ago which went something alongs the lines of:

”Fox 1” - “Chaff and Flare, Chaff & Flare, continue”..

”Fox 2” - “Chaff and Flare, Chaff & Flare, continue”..

“Fox 3, Chaff and Flare that you b…….rd”

(In the days before AMRAAM when Fox 3 was guns)
ORAC is offline  
Old 29th Aug 2022, 09:50
  #8585 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: aus
Posts: 1,264
Likes: 0
Received 91 Likes on 59 Posts
Originally Posted by uxb99
All this social media. Isn't it bad news for the Ukranians to be telling the Russians what kit they are using? Or is it all academic?
Everyone knew they had it, its probably GTFO already. Its kinda the opposite, patriotism kicks in and the country that sent feels proud and could more willing to supply more or other hardware

rattman is offline  
Old 29th Aug 2022, 09:59
  #8586 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Outer ring of HEL
Posts: 1,641
Received 187 Likes on 82 Posts
Putin does the hitlers. Shoigu thrown under bus and military leaders are reporting directly to Putler from now on.

"Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu is now being side-lined within the Russian leadership, with operational commanders briefing President Putin directly on the course of the war."


Beamr is offline  
Old 29th Aug 2022, 10:07
  #8587 (permalink)  
Guest
 
Join Date: Apr 2022
Posts: 481
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 10 Posts
So how heavy does the shelling have to be to induce shell shock?
Are we seeing levels similar to WW1?
uxb99 is offline  
Old 29th Aug 2022, 11:12
  #8588 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Outer ring of HEL
Posts: 1,641
Received 187 Likes on 82 Posts
Originally Posted by uxb99
So how heavy does the shelling have to be to induce shell shock?
Are we seeing levels similar to WW1?
Modern day term is post traumatic stress disorder. Hasn't necessarily got anything to do with shelling per se or its intensity, can be triggered by multitude of things.
Beamr is offline  
Old 29th Aug 2022, 11:34
  #8589 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Often in Jersey, but mainly in the past.
Age: 79
Posts: 7,764
Received 128 Likes on 57 Posts
Please excuse the 'source' ... apparently fighting over loot!

VLADIMIR PUTIN is facing a critical breakdown in military discipline and cohesion after Russian special forces became embroiled in a firefight with Wagner militia members.

Reports suggest that a bitter dispute broke out between a Russian Spetsnaz unit and Wagner fighters over the division of war loot, which ended in a "bloody firefight".
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world...ine-war-latest
MPN11 is offline  
Old 29th Aug 2022, 11:44
  #8590 (permalink)  
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Peripatetic
Posts: 16,985
Received 1,358 Likes on 619 Posts
There seems to be a major action taking place in Kherson. Lots of tweets of attacks and counter-attacks, artillery and HIMARS action.

Commentators trying to play things down, but worth keeping an eye on.

ORAC is offline  
Old 29th Aug 2022, 12:15
  #8591 (permalink)  
Guest
 
Join Date: Apr 2022
Posts: 481
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 10 Posts
Originally Posted by Beamr
Modern day term is post traumatic stress disorder. Hasn't necessarily got anything to do with shelling per se or its intensity, can be triggered by multitude of things.
Would a dog suffer ptsd though? Maybe needs something more physical like arty? Don't know. Just using the dog as a talking point?
uxb99 is offline  
Old 29th Aug 2022, 12:34
  #8592 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Temporarily missing from the Joe Louis Arena
Posts: 2,128
Received 26 Likes on 15 Posts
Originally Posted by uxb99
Would a dog suffer ptsd though? Maybe needs something more physical like arty? Don't know. Just using the dog as a talking point?
Dogs can and do get PTSD for a number of reasons, many of them paralleling those that cause PTSD in humans.

As an example, many military search dogs deployed to Afghanistan etc have shown symptoms of PTSD.

https://www.npr.org/2013/03/11/17381...=1661772719626
The Helpful Stacker is offline  
Old 29th Aug 2022, 13:01
  #8593 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hanging off the end of a thread
Posts: 32,103
Received 2,432 Likes on 1,014 Posts
When you think how dogs react to fireworks, artillery must petrify them.

agree about Kherson, locals told to start to hoard food in shelters etc and reports of it ramping up.


As Putin is now taking total control, I wonder when he will start moving fictitious forces around his maps like Hitler.
NutLoose is online now  
Old 29th Aug 2022, 13:06
  #8594 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: aus
Posts: 1,264
Likes: 0
Received 91 Likes on 59 Posts
Originally Posted by The Helpful Stacker
Dogs can and do get PTSD for a number of reasons, many of them paralleling those that cause PTSD in humans.

As an example, many military search dogs deployed to Afghanistan etc have shown symptoms of PTSD.

https://www.npr.org/2013/03/11/17381...=1661772719626
same with rescue dogs from 911
rattman is offline  
Old 29th Aug 2022, 13:09
  #8595 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hanging off the end of a thread
Posts: 32,103
Received 2,432 Likes on 1,014 Posts
Also the supporting Russian paras legged it.

NutLoose is online now  
Old 29th Aug 2022, 13:45
  #8596 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hanging off the end of a thread
Posts: 32,103
Received 2,432 Likes on 1,014 Posts
Wow, if true

NutLoose is online now  
Old 29th Aug 2022, 13:56
  #8597 (permalink)  
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Peripatetic
Posts: 16,985
Received 1,358 Likes on 619 Posts
Just now - Russian fighter in Ukraine Anatoliy Dryomov - "there is a big risk to lose Kherson, many losses among ours".

Russian state affiliated media reporting a mass evacuation was ordered in Russian controlled Nova Kakhovka, Kherson Oblast.

ORAC is offline  
Old 29th Aug 2022, 14:08
  #8598 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hanging off the end of a thread
Posts: 32,103
Received 2,432 Likes on 1,014 Posts
Film from by the bridge by a Russian during a HIMAR hit, mostly shot under his truck lol.

NutLoose is online now  
Old 29th Aug 2022, 14:09
  #8599 (permalink)  
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Peripatetic
Posts: 16,985
Received 1,358 Likes on 619 Posts
Ukrainian forces have begun "shaping" operations in S. Ukraine to prepare the battlefield for a significant Ukrainian counteroffensive, two senior US officials briefed on the intel tell me. US believes the long-anticipated counteroffensive will include air & ground ops. 1/…….

5/ Ukraine indicated Monday the actions were underway. "Ukrainian armed forces have started the offensive actions in several directions on the South front towards liberating the occupied territories," Natalia Humeniuk, spokesperson for UKR’s Operational Command South, told CNN.…..

https://t.co/de4mMIpKYY
ORAC is offline  
Old 29th Aug 2022, 14:27
  #8600 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hanging off the end of a thread
Posts: 32,103
Received 2,432 Likes on 1,014 Posts
Update on the bridge on 27th looks likely they will struggle to use it.

NutLoose is online now  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.