Is Ukraine about to have a war?
I have no military background or experience. So I have to ask this. It seems Putin has now threatened the entire West with the use of nukes. The French, the UK and the the USA are out there with with Subs, I assume ready to launch.
Has Putin got so deranged that he is willing to destroy the world to prove a point. ( what that point is, I don’t know).
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Has Putin got so deranged that he is willing to destroy the world to prove a point. ( what that point is, I don’t know).
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I pray for a westerly wind.
Regarding Medvedev, he has been pretty consistent playing the Russian media with his hardline statements.
It appears to me that Medvedev could be a fallback position for Putin. If things continue badly, he could "resign" and install Medvedev who is no doubt controlled by him and continue pulling the strings in the background as the real ruler. It could be the perfect setup for Putin's future if things don't recover to normal for the average Russian and Medvedev's leadership is deemed soft. The people then clamor for a hardline leader and guess who reappears to 'save the day'.
Thoughts?
It appears to me that Medvedev could be a fallback position for Putin. If things continue badly, he could "resign" and install Medvedev who is no doubt controlled by him and continue pulling the strings in the background as the real ruler. It could be the perfect setup for Putin's future if things don't recover to normal for the average Russian and Medvedev's leadership is deemed soft. The people then clamor for a hardline leader and guess who reappears to 'save the day'.
Thoughts?
Everyone knows that Medvedev is Sooty to Putins Matthew Corbett.
He's gambling that his threats are enough to make the West pause, because he thinks they will never use nuclear weapons (or at least not to defend Ukraine) - remember he thinks the West is weak and won't stand up to him directly. So his rational is if he drops a tactical nuke on a Ukrainian city, he's not going to be getting Western SSBMs inbound.
probably not, but since Biden very clearly said "Don"t. Don't. Don't." the Russian troops will in all probability face the full traditional warfare wrath of the west. Black sea fleet - boom. Bases in crimea - kaboom. Russian forces in Ukraine territory - gone. Anything flying over Ukraine - downed. No-fly zone in Ukraine. Full closure of Russia from everything so that even NK will seem like a regular beach holiday resort.
Edit: Or more stupid still if they fire one and it doesn't go Bang, which sounds like a non-zero probability
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Or more stupid still if they fire one and it doesn't go Bang, which sounds like a non-zero probability
Newspaper novaya gazeta claims, the number of mobilised reservists called up for duty is one million now, not 300 000. This is advised in the blacked out paragraph 7 of the recent government order the newspaper says.
probably not, but since Biden very clearly said "Don"t. Don't. Don't." the Russian troops will in all probability face the full traditional warfare wrath of the west. Black sea fleet - boom. Bases in crimea - kaboom. Russian forces in Ukraine territory - gone. Anything flying over Ukraine - downed. No-fly zone in Ukraine. Full closure of Russia from everything so that even NK will seem like a regular beach holiday resort.
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He's gambling that his threats are enough to make the West pause, because he thinks they will never use nuclear weapons (or at least not to defend Ukraine) - remember he thinks the West is weak and won't stand up to him directly. So his rational is if he drops a tactical nuke on a Ukrainian city, he's not going to be getting Western SSBMs inbound.
If Russia responds with another strike then we could be looking at a wider conflict where we go after his C+C and missile forces.
Increasingly I think the likes of China is key here. Word is that they too are getting increasingly alarmed at the situation and are pushing for some sort of diplomatic resolution. As someone noted above, the fact were are spiralling into a potential catastrophe for no reason whatsoever is madness personified.
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Much would, IMO, depend on where RU chooses to do the Stupid Thing, which I could guess would be well away from their ill-equipped and NBC-ready troops. And, of course, the readiness state of assorted Western assets [land/sea/air] to generate a swift response. That we will not know, or should not know. until they are used.
We are all standing on the cliff edge, and subject to the fantasies of Putin and his lap-dogs.
We are all standing on the cliff edge, and subject to the fantasies of Putin and his lap-dogs.
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I cannot see him nuking Ukraine for the simple reason he will destroy not only the
Ukrainian wheat production by irradiating the soil and crops, but he would wipe out a lot of Russias too wind dependant.
His sunflower production
And his Corn production.
In fact a lot of Russias food production capability, see
https://ipad.fas.usda.gov/rssiws/al/rs_cropprod.aspx
Ukrainian wheat production by irradiating the soil and crops, but he would wipe out a lot of Russias too wind dependant.
His sunflower production
And his Corn production.
In fact a lot of Russias food production capability, see
https://ipad.fas.usda.gov/rssiws/al/rs_cropprod.aspx
The Kremlin mastermind is now giving tactical orders. Reminds me of certain Kim family, always seen with crowd of generals writing down their immortal wisdoms.
Putin decided Medvedev was unsuitable to replace him as a result of Medvedev not using Russia's veto against the attack on Libya. Medvedev was originally a Liberal, but when Putin effectively neutered him he swung massively to the right. Unless Medvedev is the leader of the Right wing which Putin allegedly fears so much within his country, he is a busted flush.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
I have no military background or experience. So I have to ask this. It seems Putin has now threatened the entire West with the use of nukes. The French, the UK and the the USA are out there with with Subs, I assume ready to launch.
Has Putin got so deranged that he is willing to destroy the world to prove a point. ( what that point is, I don’t know).
Has Putin got so deranged that he is willing to destroy the world to prove a point. ( what that point is, I don’t know).
https://una.org.uk/sites/default/fil...-_ted_seay.pdf
This is brilliant, Charles Pathé would be proud!
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You know, I almost feel sorry for these two….. ok, I’m over it.
Accidents happen.
However now we know what the first ones mobilized will be equipped with: the 60's stuff. Imagine what the 300000th will be getting
However now we know what the first ones mobilized will be equipped with: the 60's stuff. Imagine what the 300000th will be getting