Is Ukraine about to have a war?
Some posts back was a photo of a captured RF munition dump with a comment that UKR does not accept gifts from murderers and rapists; so they will all be returned
Given RF shelling of UKR civilian targets and infrastructure, one wonders if UKF might consider returning RF munitions to RU civilian infrastructure locations as well as military targets in RU.
There are understandable strictures against using western supplied munitions against anything in RU, but no such strictures apply against captured RF munitions.
Given RF shelling of UKR civilian targets and infrastructure, one wonders if UKF might consider returning RF munitions to RU civilian infrastructure locations as well as military targets in RU.
There are understandable strictures against using western supplied munitions against anything in RU, but no such strictures apply against captured RF munitions.
Originally Posted by fdr
Russia is playing with fire once more.
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Missile strikes target the Mykolaev NPP support structure, landing adjacent to the containment structures,
Surely there is a point where the yellow streak inside the body of our politicians and representatives in the UN finds a set of bones that approximate a spine, and they finally declare Russia a Terrorist State. A tiny baltic state had the intestinal fortitude to call it asa they see it.
Attacking a NPP is utter reckless terrorism,Kangnam nukular style, and this is the 3rd time Russia has done so. They risk contaminating NATO countries and those that seem to have a foot in each camp...
Time for window cleaning?
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Missile strikes target the Mykolaev NPP support structure, landing adjacent to the containment structures,
Surely there is a point where the yellow streak inside the body of our politicians and representatives in the UN finds a set of bones that approximate a spine, and they finally declare Russia a Terrorist State. A tiny baltic state had the intestinal fortitude to call it asa they see it.
Attacking a NPP is utter reckless terrorism,
Time for window cleaning?
Originally Posted by WB627
The only thing I can see that Putin will gain from the use of a tactical nuke, is a very large hole in the earth where Moscow or St. Petersburg used to be. I suspect that Biden has made that clear to him.
I think that there is no way Ukraine would capitulate but what if Putin decides to go for broke and keeps on upping the escalatory ladder ?
The big question is what does the West do now. Are we really ready to risk WWW3, or will Ukraine be pressured to give in ?
Originally Posted by Big Pistons Forever
The big question is what does the West do now. Are we really ready to risk WWW3, or will Ukraine be pressured to give in ?
The Z-Team does not think like the West. They obey only power and any treaty is worth breaking if seen fit for purpose. The most current example is how they left Armenia on their own against Azerbaidjan despite Armenia being Russias very long term best friend (since the 19th century) eg. advertising Putin billboards on the streets.
If Ukraine is pressured to give in, it just means that the war goes on somewhere else in the very near future, in essence before Putin (age 69) dies as he wants to be the modern day Peter the Great and achieve the old Russian empire borders. Pressuring Ukraine to peace is not an option.
Originally Posted by Big Pistons Forever
Russian open source strategic doctrine describes using low yield tactical nuclear weapons in a “escalate to de-escalate” strategy. So they nuke some small city in central Ukraine and say to Zelenski declare Donbas and Crimea belongs to Russia or we nuke more cities.
I think that there is no way Ukraine would capitulate but what if Putin decides to go for broke and keeps on upping the escalatory ladder ?
The big question is what does the West do now. Are we really ready to risk WWW3, or will Ukraine be pressured to give in ?
I think that there is no way Ukraine would capitulate but what if Putin decides to go for broke and keeps on upping the escalatory ladder ?
The big question is what does the West do now. Are we really ready to risk WWW3, or will Ukraine be pressured to give in ?
Putin is an existential threat to the 3rd rock, wishing otherwise doesn't change that, it emboldens him.
Spent a lot of my life chasing nukes, hate them with a passion. Hate people who threaten their use more.
Asymmetric options for Ukraine get pretty unpleasant for Russia, and are on the head of Putin; there is no one else pushing his agenda, it is all Putin.
Last edited by fdr; 20th Sep 2022 at 07:35.
Personally I cannot see any scenario where Putin would use a tactical nuke, even if Crimea was seriously under threat. The US and NATO have made it eminently clear their use is a red line and would be responded to in kind. IMO this would most likely be an ultimatum to leave Ukraine and, if this wasn't done, a massive conventional response against Russia's forces in or postured towards Ukraine, effectively sweeping them from the battlefield.
I still reckon Putin is lining up for some kind of "mission accomplished" BS withdrawal from at least some of the occupied territories. The mood music at last weeks meeting in Kazakhstan strongly suggests his "allies" are getting heartily fed up with the whole enterprise and wish him to conclude something quickly.
I still reckon Putin is lining up for some kind of "mission accomplished" BS withdrawal from at least some of the occupied territories. The mood music at last weeks meeting in Kazakhstan strongly suggests his "allies" are getting heartily fed up with the whole enterprise and wish him to conclude something quickly.
Originally Posted by dead_pan
I still reckon Putin is lining up for some kind of "mission accomplished" BS withdrawal from at least some of the occupied territories. The mood music at last weeks meeting in Kazakhstan strongly suggests his "allies" are getting heartily fed up with the whole enterprise and wish him to conclude something quickly.
The MOD tweet this morning about the fact that they have almost certainly relocated all their Black Sea fleet Kilo-Class subs from their home port of Sevastopol back to their 'old' home port of Novorossiysk is interesting.
The Izium victims are beginning to have names.
However sad, this is important for the family to have knowledge of the fate of their loved ones but for the criminal investigation as well.
However sad, this is important for the family to have knowledge of the fate of their loved ones but for the criminal investigation as well.
Originally Posted by GeeRam
The MOD tweet this morning about the fact that they have almost certainly relocated all their Black Sea fleet Kilo-Class subs from their home port of Sevastopol back to their 'old' home port of Novorossiysk is interesting.
Originally Posted by dead_pan
Putting them out of harm's way, no doubt (as confirmed by the story on the Telegraph website now). Sevastopol will never be a safe haven for Russia so long as the situation continues as-is.
Originally Posted by rattman
Russia is currently building a fair amount of ships in crimea. The big ticket is 2 * 40 000 ton project 23900 LHD. Could be funny they lost the mistrals because of the 2014 invaison, could lose these 2 as well because of 2022 invasion.
Maybe they're planning to use them in Africa?
What I cannot understand why would you commit genocide, bury the bodies in a wood and then allow crosses to be put up on them, surely they would have attempted to hide their attrocities.
As for Russian Mobilization, he is stuffed because as I read it, to declare war and commit to mobilization he has to recognise the country he is declaring was against as a Sovereign State, which goes against the script that Ukraine is part of Russia.
As for Russian Mobilization, he is stuffed because as I read it, to declare war and commit to mobilization he has to recognise the country he is declaring was against as a Sovereign State, which goes against the script that Ukraine is part of Russia.
Originally Posted by NutLoose
What I cannot understand why would you commit genocide, bury the bodies in a wood and then allow crosses to be put up on them, surely they would have attempted to hide their attrocities.
Originally Posted by NutLoose
What I cannot understand why would you commit genocide, bury the bodies in a wood and then allow crosses to be put up on them, surely they would have attempted to hide their attrocities.
So they are going to hold referendums in Kherson and Zaporizhzhia regions in a couple of days time, one can only assume these rigged referendums will thus allow Russia to forcibly conscipt the male population, starting with those that accepted Russian passports.
Evertonian
Originally Posted by Revnetwork
Originally Posted by dead_pan
I still reckon Putin is lining up for some kind of "mission accomplished" BS withdrawal from at least some of the occupied territories. The mood music at last weeks meeting in Kazakhstan strongly suggests his "allies" are getting heartily fed up with the whole enterprise and wish him to conclude something quickly.
Buster,
They appear to have edited one image to possibly remove the face of his watch so as to hide the time?
The wrapper as you call it is
They appear to have edited one image to possibly remove the face of his watch so as to hide the time?
The wrapper as you call it is
This tank is also covered with Nakidka radar-absorbent and heat-insulating material.
