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Is Ukraine about to have a war?

Old 19th Aug 2022, 11:12
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Earlier information about the invaders preparing provocations at the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant (#ZNPP) on August 19 have got new confirmations

Specifically, licensed personnel (i.e. those who perform their duties under the licenses issued by the State Atomic Energy Inspection) have been ordered to stay at home. Only a limited number of line personnel will be allowed to the power plant.

Rosatom representatives were absent at the last #ZNPP management meeting in the evening of August 18. That said, Rosatom associates have been imperatively attending all prior meetings since the plant was seized by russian troops. As of now, they have left the #ZNPP area.

Considering the amount of weapons stored at the power plant at the moment as well as multiple provocative shellings in the past, the probability of a major act of terror at the nuclear facility is very high


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Old 19th Aug 2022, 11:36
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Certainly looks nothing like the ATACMS image above.
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Old 19th Aug 2022, 12:16
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Originally Posted by ORAC
Earlier information about the invaders preparing provocations at the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant (#ZNPP) on August 19 have got new confirmations

Specifically, licensed personnel (i.e. those who perform their duties under the licenses issued by the State Atomic Energy Inspection) have been ordered to stay at home. Only a limited number of line personnel will be allowed to the power plant.

Rosatom representatives were absent at the last #ZNPP management meeting in the evening of August 18. That said, Rosatom associates have been imperatively attending all prior meetings since the plant was seized by russian troops. As of now, they have left the #ZNPP area.

Considering the amount of weapons stored at the power plant at the moment as well as multiple provocative shellings in the past, the probability of a major act of terror at the nuclear facility is very high
Which is what I had mentioned earlier, it also makes you wonder if he wants fallout over Russia so he can then call for mobilisation, though chances are if he does attack the plant, there may well be nothing left to mobilise as we would then be in a nuclear war scenario.. The other thing is, do you think it is so they can rig it without prying eyes?

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Old 19th Aug 2022, 12:22
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Which is what I had mentioned earlier, it also makes you wonder if he wants fallout over Russia so he can then call for mobilisation, though chances are if he does attack the plant, there may well be nothing left to mobilise as we would then be in a nuclear war scenario..
poisoning the Russian grain basket for the next 10,000 years just doesn't make for a good look. Vlad would be lucky to get voted in for St Petersburg dog catcher after that bit of clever Z style planning.
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Old 19th Aug 2022, 12:38
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NOT looking good..


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Old 19th Aug 2022, 15:44
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Not looking good at all. Putin is manipulating an excuse to opt for a nuclear war. He knows he's lost and is planning for his suicide taking a good chunk of the world with him!
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Old 19th Aug 2022, 16:05
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If power station is attacked then;

Remove the restriction on NATO (US) supplied long range weapons for use only within Ukraine
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Old 19th Aug 2022, 16:31
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https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarV...fireball_near/

DAMN!! ...what was that boy carrying?
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Old 19th Aug 2022, 16:42
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Meanwhile, a redditor found this linky from Twatter (you'll have to quote this post to see the link):
..a Russian drone was downed, within which was found an SD card with video showing the base from which it was launched and the operator who made the recording.
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Old 19th Aug 2022, 17:02
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Originally Posted by BlankBox
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarV...fireball_near/

DAMN!! ...what was that boy carrying?
The turret went really , is that the record or have there been greater heights reached. It got lost in the expanding smoke at about 250 feet so it may have went higher in the smoke . Are there any more videos showing reasons to avoid tank regiments ?
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Old 19th Aug 2022, 17:21
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Originally Posted by safetypee
If power station is attacked then;

Remove the restriction on NATO (US) supplied long range weapons for use only within Ukraine
As much as that might provide some short term satisfaction it would all but guarantee such an escalation that we would have a full on NATO v Russia conflict very quickly. That said, I think that is getting more and more likely anyway. Vlad is getting his butt kicked and he knows it even if his people haven't been told yet. He can't/won't back down and fairly soon either his own people will have to take him out or he will behave like a cornered wild animal. A wild animal with a finger on a nuclear trigger.
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Old 19th Aug 2022, 17:37
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Originally Posted by BANANASBANANAS
As much as that might provide some short term satisfaction it would all but guarantee such an escalation that we would have a full on NATO v Russia conflict very quickly. That said, I think that is getting more and more likely anyway. Vlad is getting his butt kicked and he knows it even if his people haven't been told yet. He can't/won't back down and fairly soon either his own people will have to take him out or he will behave like a cornered wild animal. A wild animal with a finger on a nuclear trigger.
At the point where someone blows up 6 reactor cores and knowingly dumps millions of bequerels of radiation over western europe do you not think that is already full conflict?
I would definitely expect Art.5 activation to be requested by all those NATO eastern europe countries.
Let us hope it does not come to that.
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Old 19th Aug 2022, 17:44
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The guys gone one hundred percent fruity loops… I do wonder if the Russian population has a clue as to what will happen, it’s ok those dickheads on Russian State TV saying the we can nuke them, one missile and the U.K. is gone crap, but they fail to mention that it is a two sided sword. And a sword that will be difficult to put back in its scabbard.
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Old 19th Aug 2022, 18:22
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I assume the SD card would also have very good video and GPS position information of its flight path to the location it was downed. Such information could be most useful. Perhaps the SD stands for Sudden Death if any useful targets it overflew can be identified and taken out.

Originally Posted by Thud_and_Blunder
Meanwhile, a redditor found this linky from Twatter (you'll have to quote this post to see the link):
https://twitter.com/PaulJawin/status...16212383162373
..a Russian drone was downed, within which was found an SD card with video showing the base from which it was launched and the operator who made the recording.
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Old 19th Aug 2022, 18:40
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BBC ...
  • Russia's President Putin has agreed in a call with France's President Macron on the need for a visit to the Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant by inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA). the Kremlin says
  • A visit to the facility could take place in September, a Russian diplomat has said
Don't stand down, but perhaps breathe more easily this weekend?
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Old 19th Aug 2022, 18:46
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Footage just released from way back in May of the fight for Snake Island

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Old 19th Aug 2022, 18:56
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As to nuclear weapons (not the plant) I think Putin's bluffing, and using the various talking heads to trumpet that about is a smoke screen.
Originally Posted by Usertim
At the point where someone blows up 6 reactor cores and knowingly dumps millions of bequerels of radiation over western europe do you not think that is already full conflict? I would definitely expect Art.5 activation to be requested by all those NATO eastern europe countries. Let us hope it does not come to that.
Indeed, let's hope not. You have an interesting take on applying Article V, and I think it probably fits within the intent. *tips cap*
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... itís ok those dickheads on Russian State TV saying the we can nuke them, one missile and the U.K. is gone crap, but they fail to mention that it is a two sided sword. And a sword that will be difficult to put back in its scabbard.
Difficult indeed, it's one of those irreversible decisions.
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Don't stand down, but perhaps breathe more easily this weekend?
Glad to see that a few level headed suggestions are being considered.
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Old 19th Aug 2022, 19:02
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Glad to see that a few level headed suggestions are being considered.

The only problem I have is that I no longer believe ANYTHING that Putin says!
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Old 19th Aug 2022, 19:06
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Surprisingly there has been no discussion of the explosions that happened close to/on the Belbek airfield last night. This is one of the last remaining major airfields in Crimea, therefore of major significance for the Russkis, with a good number of fighter aircraft based there ( can't recall where I read that ) and therefore likely aircraft losses

Has no one seen/read anything ?
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Old 19th Aug 2022, 19:14
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Originally Posted by Usertim
At the point where someone blows up 6 reactor cores and knowingly dumps millions of bequerels of radiation over western europe do you not think that is already full conflict?
I would definitely expect Art.5 activation to be requested by all
those NATO eastern europe countries.
Let us hope it does not come to that.

With the winds as currently blowing, the radioactivity would mostly impact Odessa, Turkey and maybe Crimea, rather than western Europe..
Highly recommend this site https://earth.nullschool.net/ to see the local winds, it was useful during the Fukushima disaster.

It seems obvious that Russia, which controls the site, wants to unplug this facility from the Ukraine grid.
That would be damaging to Ukraine, so they are pointing out forcibly that the site is very vulnerable and that any accidents there would mostly impact Russia.
So there is a method to the madness, while both sides blame each other for events both provoke.
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