Is Ukraine about to have a war?
With the winds as currently blowing, the radioactivity would mostly impact Odessa, Turkey and maybe Crimea, rather than western Europe..
Highly recommend this site https://earth.nullschool.net/ to see the local winds, it was useful during the Fukushima disaster.
It seems obvious that Russia, which controls the site, wants to unplug this facility from the Ukraine grid.
That would be damaging to Ukraine, so they are pointing out forcibly that the site is very vulnerable and that any accidents there would mostly impact Russia.
So there is a method to the madness, while both sides blame each other for events both provoke.
Highly recommend this site https://earth.nullschool.net/ to see the local winds, it was useful during the Fukushima disaster.
It seems obvious that Russia, which controls the site, wants to unplug this facility from the Ukraine grid.
That would be damaging to Ukraine, so they are pointing out forcibly that the site is very vulnerable and that any accidents there would mostly impact Russia.
So there is a method to the madness, while both sides blame each other for events both provoke.
WHICH EVENTS DID UKRAINE PROVOKE?
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
https://www.defensenews.com/pentagon...ian-artillery/
‘Seek and destroy’: New US aid to Ukraine targets Russian artillery
WASHINGTON ― A new $775 million military aid package for Ukraine marks the first time the U.S. is sending ScanEagle drones, for targeting artillery, as well as 105mm howitzers and anti-tank rounds for the Carl Gustaf rifle to the fight against Russia, the Pentagon announced Friday.
The latest package of U.S. aid to Ukraine also includes the AGM-88 high-speed anti-radiation missile, which will allow Ukrainian forces to target Russian radars in the artillery-focused war. The disclosure marks the first time the Pentagon has discussed its provision of high-speed anti-radiation missiles to Ukraine in detail.
“Ukraine has successfully employed these missiles. They have successfully integrated them onto Ukrainian aircraft. And this enables Ukraine to seek and destroy Russian radars,” a senior defense official told reporters. The Pentagon provided the official for comment on condition of anonymity.
The Pentagon is sending 15 ScanEagles ― a small, long-endurance, low-altitude drone made by Insitu and used for reconnaissance, which is intended to help guide targeting for Ukrainian artillery. Other firsts include 16 105mm howitzers (with 36,000 artillery rounds) as well as 1,000, tube-launched, optically tracked anti-tank missiles for Carl Gustaf weapons sent by other allies.
The aid also includes 40 mine-resistant, ambush-protected vehicles for mine-clearing, 50 Humvees and 1,000 Javelin anti-tank weapons….
‘Seek and destroy’: New US aid to Ukraine targets Russian artillery
WASHINGTON ― A new $775 million military aid package for Ukraine marks the first time the U.S. is sending ScanEagle drones, for targeting artillery, as well as 105mm howitzers and anti-tank rounds for the Carl Gustaf rifle to the fight against Russia, the Pentagon announced Friday.
The latest package of U.S. aid to Ukraine also includes the AGM-88 high-speed anti-radiation missile, which will allow Ukrainian forces to target Russian radars in the artillery-focused war. The disclosure marks the first time the Pentagon has discussed its provision of high-speed anti-radiation missiles to Ukraine in detail.
“Ukraine has successfully employed these missiles. They have successfully integrated them onto Ukrainian aircraft. And this enables Ukraine to seek and destroy Russian radars,” a senior defense official told reporters. The Pentagon provided the official for comment on condition of anonymity.
The Pentagon is sending 15 ScanEagles ― a small, long-endurance, low-altitude drone made by Insitu and used for reconnaissance, which is intended to help guide targeting for Ukrainian artillery. Other firsts include 16 105mm howitzers (with 36,000 artillery rounds) as well as 1,000, tube-launched, optically tracked anti-tank missiles for Carl Gustaf weapons sent by other allies.
The aid also includes 40 mine-resistant, ambush-protected vehicles for mine-clearing, 50 Humvees and 1,000 Javelin anti-tank weapons….
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
"80% of Wagner recruits will not come back from Ukraine", says Evgeny Prigozhin, Wagner owner (and Putin's chief recruiter for Ukraine invasion)
Seriously, we had the video yesterday of Excaliburs plinking individual towing trucks in shelters, looked like under 10 feet error.
So Ukraine has the means to hit any target near the plant without damaging the facility itself. If they don't, it is to send a message.
This is looking like a resort to nuclear blackmail.
Putain is militarily stuck and hugely embarrassed verging on humiliated and being a 'little man' he can't accept that.
Occupying a nuc plant gives him several advantages.
Tactically, a safe place to amass weapons and troops as the other side daren't retaliate.
Strategically, a guaranteed way to utterly and globally discredit the other side if they do.
Plus he opportunity to do that 'false flag' even if they don't.
An unanswerable bargaining chip to ensure any 'negotiation' towards ending the conflict goes his way.
I can see no disadvantages to Russia in doing this - at least, no disadvantages that they care about - and as massive radiological disaster is not one that much bothers them they hold all the cards here.
I can't see what anyone can do in the face of this.
Putain is militarily stuck and hugely embarrassed verging on humiliated and being a 'little man' he can't accept that.
Occupying a nuc plant gives him several advantages.
Tactically, a safe place to amass weapons and troops as the other side daren't retaliate.
Strategically, a guaranteed way to utterly and globally discredit the other side if they do.
Plus he opportunity to do that 'false flag' even if they don't.
An unanswerable bargaining chip to ensure any 'negotiation' towards ending the conflict goes his way.
I can see no disadvantages to Russia in doing this - at least, no disadvantages that they care about - and as massive radiological disaster is not one that much bothers them they hold all the cards here.
I can't see what anyone can do in the face of this.
Of course it's blackmail. The Russians have held the nuclear gun to the World's head numerous times since this all started. As per normal, combined with their lying/distortion/blaming the innocent. Pretty simple really.
For the plant, shelling items near it.
Seriously, we had the video yesterday of Excaliburs plinking individual towing trucks in shelters, looked like under 10 feet error.
So Ukraine has the means to hit any target near the plant without damaging the facility itself. If they don't, it is to send a message.
Seriously, we had the video yesterday of Excaliburs plinking individual towing trucks in shelters, looked like under 10 feet error.
So Ukraine has the means to hit any target near the plant without damaging the facility itself. If they don't, it is to send a message.
noun [ C or U ]
UK /ˌprɒv.əˈkeɪ.ʃən/ US /ˌprɑː.vəˈkeɪ.ʃən/ an action or statement that is intended to make someone angry:
I would suggest that invading a sovereign country and placing 'targets' near a Nuclear plant fits well within that definition.
Russia is the provocateur here, NOT Ukraine!
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If I may make an appeal for a bit more aviation content.
Asking for a friend.
Asking for a friend.
Etu, do you think about facts at all before you send, or just hit send? What provocation did Ukraine make to you Russians, other than the discovery of more hydrocarbons under Donbas?
1. Russia had access to Sevastopol by Ukraine in accordance with the aggreement that Ukraine entered into with Russia, Ukraine kept their word. Russia lied, as always;
2. Russia formented unrest in Luhansk, and Donetysk, and gave specious arguments for Crimea, in direct breach of the Alma-Ata protocol that was binding, Russia, lied, as always;
3. Russia invaded Ukraine under the pretext of
(i) de-nazification Russia being the fascist state
(ii) protection of the "Russian's" in Luhansk and Donetsk, that is the ones they gave passports to post hoc. The same people that they conscripted into their illegal war, and the same people that Russian troops raped, murdered, and had their microwaves, TV's, cars, tractors, combine harvesters swapped for T-72's (slightly used, fixer uppers). Russia lied, as always;
(iii) Russia attacked a NPP at Chernobyl...
(iv) Russia has attacked ZNPP....
Russia is a terrorist state, under the august leadership of the dear leader, as a consequence of the lack of moral fortitude that the masses of Russia exhibit in great volume. Those that speak out against the wholesale criminalisation of Russia under its leaders end up glowing in the dark, smelling of Novochok and other responses, such as falling out of closed windows, accidentally shooting themselves 12 times, and otherwise meeting unpleasant ends.
Please stop defending the indefensible. At some point in time, you will look in a mirror and you will not be able to stand what you see. Your country needs patriots to return the country to the people and get it out of the road to ruin that Putin and the rest of the excrement that exudes from the crimlin represent.
You are purportedly in a free country, so the hypocrisy of your words should be called out for what they are. If you like what Putin has done to the Russians, then go home, enjoy. Please send a message to your dear leader though, that he is not welcome in his neighbouring countries, from Chechnya, Ukraine, Moldova, Belorus, Kazakhstan, Siberia, etc.... go home, please go home now.
In response to T28B's appeal for aviation content, please fly home, take Aeroflot, or whatever else is still flying in Russia other than missiles.
Etu, do you think about facts at all before you send, or just hit send? What provocation did Ukraine make to you Russians, other than the discovery of more hydrocarbons under Donbas?
1. Russia had access to Sevastopol by Ukraine in accordance with the aggreement that Ukraine entered into with Russia, Ukraine kept their word. Russia lied, as always;
2. Russia formented unrest in Luhansk, and Donetysk, and gave specious arguments for Crimea, in direct breach of the Alma-Ata protocol that was binding, Russia, lied, as always;
3. Russia invaded Ukraine under the pretext of
(i) de-nazification Russia being the fascist state
(ii) protection of the "Russian's" in Luhansk and Donetsk, that is the ones they gave passports to post hoc. The same people that they conscripted into their illegal war, and the same people that Russian troops raped, murdered, and had their microwaves, TV's, cars, tractors, combine harvesters swapped for T-72's (slightly used, fixer uppers). Russia lied, as always;
(iii) Russia attacked a NPP at Chernobyl...
(iv) Russia has attacked ZNPP....
Russia is a terrorist state, under the august leadership of the dear leader, as a consequence of the lack of moral fortitude that the masses of Russia exhibit in great volume. Those that speak out against the wholesale criminalisation of Russia under its leaders end up glowing in the dark, smelling of Novochok and other responses, such as falling out of closed windows, accidentally shooting themselves 12 times, and otherwise meeting unpleasant ends.
Please stop defending the indefensible. At some point in time, you will look in a mirror and you will not be able to stand what you see. Your country needs patriots to return the country to the people and get it out of the road to ruin that Putin and the rest of the excrement that exudes from the crimlin represent.
You are purportedly in a free country, so the hypocrisy of your words should be called out for what they are. If you like what Putin has done to the Russians, then go home, enjoy. Please send a message to your dear leader though, that he is not welcome in his neighbouring countries, from Chechnya, Ukraine, Moldova, Belorus, Kazakhstan, Siberia, etc.... go home, please go home now.
In response to T28B's appeal for aviation content, please fly home, take Aeroflot, or whatever else is still flying in Russia other than missiles.
1. Russia had access to Sevastopol by Ukraine in accordance with the aggreement that Ukraine entered into with Russia, Ukraine kept their word. Russia lied, as always;
2. Russia formented unrest in Luhansk, and Donetysk, and gave specious arguments for Crimea, in direct breach of the Alma-Ata protocol that was binding, Russia, lied, as always;
3. Russia invaded Ukraine under the pretext of
(i) de-nazification Russia being the fascist state
(ii) protection of the "Russian's" in Luhansk and Donetsk, that is the ones they gave passports to post hoc. The same people that they conscripted into their illegal war, and the same people that Russian troops raped, murdered, and had their microwaves, TV's, cars, tractors, combine harvesters swapped for T-72's (slightly used, fixer uppers). Russia lied, as always;
(iii) Russia attacked a NPP at Chernobyl...
(iv) Russia has attacked ZNPP....
Russia is a terrorist state, under the august leadership of the dear leader, as a consequence of the lack of moral fortitude that the masses of Russia exhibit in great volume. Those that speak out against the wholesale criminalisation of Russia under its leaders end up glowing in the dark, smelling of Novochok and other responses, such as falling out of closed windows, accidentally shooting themselves 12 times, and otherwise meeting unpleasant ends.
Please stop defending the indefensible. At some point in time, you will look in a mirror and you will not be able to stand what you see. Your country needs patriots to return the country to the people and get it out of the road to ruin that Putin and the rest of the excrement that exudes from the crimlin represent.
You are purportedly in a free country, so the hypocrisy of your words should be called out for what they are. If you like what Putin has done to the Russians, then go home, enjoy. Please send a message to your dear leader though, that he is not welcome in his neighbouring countries, from Chechnya, Ukraine, Moldova, Belorus, Kazakhstan, Siberia, etc.... go home, please go home now.
In response to T28B's appeal for aviation content, please fly home, take Aeroflot, or whatever else is still flying in Russia other than missiles.
Imho, the Maidan revolution transformed the situation for Russia, a previously friendly country became hostile. When the facts change, countries adjust their policies, else they fail, gradually or rapidly.
Russia's reaction was entirely predictable and was in fact predicted by most of the US foreign policy veterans who had experience in Russia. Unfortunately they were ignored.
The disaster we now face was entirely avoidable, a little sense of putting yourself into the other guy's shoes would have done the trick.
Pontificating about the unprovoked assault on Ukraine while ignoring the post Maidan civil war in Donbas is rewriting history.
Likewise, claiming all the responsibility was from Putin's 'little green men' is convenient, but unsupported by the evidence from independent observers.
Now we are in a war, bullish for the MIC, which has its testing ground for modern weapons and massive replacement demand, but a horror show that is worsening for everyone who lives in the region.
Worse, we have stupidly allowed our client state to decide what conditions it will accept to make peace. That kind of blank check worked out badly in 1914, it seems we have not learned anything.
Meanwhile, bellicose war nerds cheer the death of masses of 'orcs' here on PPRN, as though the Russians were not likewise human beings. I don't see the situation in Ukraine that way
as though the Russians were not likewise human beings
we have stupidly allowed our client state to decide what conditions it will accept to make peace
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US has confirmed the Ukrainian MIG 29 have been equipped with the AGM88 HARM missile, I suppose some of the reported drone shoot downs of late might be attempts to get the Russian AD radars to revel their locations and some of the reported explosions around the likes of Kherson, Kerch and Sevastopol?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...es/ar-AA10QDWj
The Pentagon has now officially confirmed that it has transferred AGM-88 High-speed Anti-Radiation Missiles, or HARMs, to the Ukrainian Air Force. This comes nearly two weeks after U.S. Under Secretary of Defense for Policy Colin Kahl had confirmed the delivery of unspecified anti-radiation missiles to Ukraine's armed forces. The evidence of HARM usage in Ukraine had first appeared on social media just days before Kahl's comments, and more had subsequently emerged online.
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Additional helicopters transferred to Ukraine from Latvia.
To put that in context, they only have 4 helicopters in service, 4 MI17. So that is 50% of their active helicopter fleet. Superb effort and kudos to them
https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1559235188114194433
https://mezha.media/en/2022/08/16/latvia-for-ukraine-6-m109a5-self-propelled-guns-4-helicopters-and-fundraising-for-bayraktar-tb2/
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To put that in context, they only have 4 helicopters in service, 4 MI17. So that is 50% of their active helicopter fleet. Superb effort and kudos to them
https://twitter.com/UAWeapons/status/1559235188114194433
https://mezha.media/en/2022/08/16/latvia-for-ukraine-6-m109a5-self-propelled-guns-4-helicopters-and-fundraising-for-bayraktar-tb2/
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For the plant, shelling items near it.
Seriously, we had the video yesterday of Excaliburs plinking individual towing trucks in shelters, looked like under 10 feet error.
So Ukraine has the means to hit any target near the plant without damaging the facility itself. If they don't, it is to send a message.
Seriously, we had the video yesterday of Excaliburs plinking individual towing trucks in shelters, looked like under 10 feet error.
So Ukraine has the means to hit any target near the plant without damaging the facility itself. If they don't, it is to send a message.
reality has become a fiction to you
