Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Aircrew Forums > Military Aviation
Reload this Page >

Is Ukraine about to have a war?

Wikiposts
Search
Military Aviation A forum for the professionals who fly military hardware. Also for the backroom boys and girls who support the flying and maintain the equipment, and without whom nothing would ever leave the ground. All armies, navies and air forces of the world equally welcome here.

Is Ukraine about to have a war?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 15th Aug 2022, 10:01
  #8001 (permalink)  
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Peripatetic
Posts: 17,452
Received 1,617 Likes on 739 Posts
Russia now recruiting those over 50 to go to Ukraine….






ORAC is online now  
Old 15th Aug 2022, 11:03
  #8002 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Rhone-Alpes
Posts: 1,174
Received 284 Likes on 159 Posts
Originally Posted by ORAC
Well the whole of the northern Caucasus is an area to watch. If Putin falls and Russia has internal disorder don’t xpect Chechnya or th other republics not to stir up trouble.

Lots of anger at the disparate casualties in Ukraine as their men and sons have been fed into the meat grinder.whilst those in Moscow and S Petersburg have been spared…

And when the Chechens fighting for Ukraine head home they’ll undoubtedly take lots of experience and equipment with them - and volunteers and logistic support.
I have to say that -given the reputation of the Chechen as very tough fighters and the recent history of the brutal Russo/Chechen wars - I have been puzzled that Kadyrov is able to rule without any apparent internal discontent ( at least on what I read ) and giving enthusiastic support for Putin. Reports I have seen (linked on this site ? ) have shown that the Chechens were being treated like Moscovites in that their leaders were able to choose their engagements and chose the less risky ones. I recall them being in the rear of the fight for Kyev ( and part of the atrocities in the villages there ? ) and also as late-comers for the battle for Mariupol and the Azov steel-works.
Tartiflette Fan is online now  
Old 15th Aug 2022, 12:02
  #8003 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hanging off the end of a thread
Posts: 33,072
Received 2,939 Likes on 1,252 Posts

NutLoose is online now  
Old 15th Aug 2022, 12:35
  #8004 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hanging off the end of a thread
Posts: 33,072
Received 2,939 Likes on 1,252 Posts
Balls of steel, looks like more bullsh*t Russian propaganda, you would not lift and carry those little blighters anywhere.

NutLoose is online now  
Old 15th Aug 2022, 13:21
  #8005 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: aus
Posts: 1,317
Likes: 0
Received 111 Likes on 69 Posts
Originally Posted by ORAC
Well the whole of the northern Caucasus is an area to watch. If Putin falls and Russia has internal disorder don’t xpect Chechnya or th other republics not to stir up trouble.

Lots of anger at the disparate casualties in Ukraine as their men and sons have been fed into the meat grinder.whilst those in Moscow and S Petersburg have been spared…
I would expect the next immediate flashpoint to be belarus if the ukrainians win. Theres a LOT or trained and equiped belarussians. While they wont be able to take western heavy hardware, cant imagine ukraine will much if any effort to prevent them taking ukrainian / ex soviet / captured russian hardware with them
rattman is offline  
Old 15th Aug 2022, 13:44
  #8006 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hanging off the end of a thread
Posts: 33,072
Received 2,939 Likes on 1,252 Posts
Originally Posted by rattman
I would expect the next immediate flashpoint to be Belarus if when the Ukrainians win. There's a LOT or trained and equipped Belarusian's. While they won't be able to take western heavy hardware, can't imagine Ukraine will much if any effort to prevent them taking Ukrainian / ex soviet / captured Russian hardware with them
Let's just correct that little word
NutLoose is online now  
Old 15th Aug 2022, 14:06
  #8007 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hanging off the end of a thread
Posts: 33,072
Received 2,939 Likes on 1,252 Posts
Well the rail bridge from Melitopol is well and truly shut, even Gupta in North West Frontier wouldn't cross that one

‎The partisans damaged the bridge near Melitopol and blocked the way of delivering ammunition from Crimea to the occupiers,‎

Last edited by NutLoose; 15th Aug 2022 at 14:20.
NutLoose is online now  
Old 15th Aug 2022, 14:13
  #8008 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Baston
Posts: 3,289
Received 721 Likes on 255 Posts
It will buff up. Give or take a year or so.
langleybaston is offline  
Old 15th Aug 2022, 14:26
  #8009 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Outer ring of HEL
Posts: 1,707
Received 349 Likes on 119 Posts
Putin has boasted to arm Russias allies with the latest arms technology: "[Russia] is ready to offer partners and allies the most modern types of weapons - from small arms to armoured vehicles and artillery, combat aircraft and unmanned aerial vehicles"

my question is: what is most modern type of Russian weaponry that might be of interest after showcasing their efficiency in the war in Ukraine? Tanks? Frigates? S400's? Fast jets?

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...es-2022-08-15/
Beamr is offline  
Old 15th Aug 2022, 15:02
  #8010 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Texas
Age: 64
Posts: 7,231
Received 417 Likes on 260 Posts
Originally Posted by Beamr
Putin has boasted to arm Russias allies with the latest arms technology
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...es-2022-08-15/
If you go a bit further down in the article, he also alludes to those who weren't at the fair as being girly-men, or something like that.
"I want to emphasize that Russia stands for the broadest comprehensive development military-technical cooperation. Today in conditions of confidence in the emerging multipolar world, this is especially important," Putin said.
"We highly appreciate the fact that our country has many like-minded allies and partners on different continents. These are the states that do not succumb to the so-called hegemon, their leaders show a real masculine character and do not bend."
I'll bet a nickel that he was addressing Latin American and South American customers.
Lonewolf_50 is online now  
Old 15th Aug 2022, 15:07
  #8011 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Hanging off the end of a thread
Posts: 33,072
Received 2,939 Likes on 1,252 Posts
"I want to emphasize that Russia stands for the broadest comprehensive development military-technical cooperation. Today in conditions of confidence in the emerging multipolar world, this is especially important," Putin said.
"We highly appreciate the fact that our country has many like-minded allies and partners on different continents. These are the states that do not succumb to the so-called hegemon, their leaders show a real masculine character and do not bend."
Why do I suddenly feel the urge to rip my shirt off, splash myself all over with Brut (cringe) and jump on the back of an unsaddled horse and have my photo taken??
NutLoose is online now  
Old 15th Aug 2022, 15:12
  #8012 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Texas
Age: 64
Posts: 7,231
Received 417 Likes on 260 Posts
Originally Posted by NutLoose
Why do I suddenly feel the urge to rip my shirt off, splash myself all over with Brut (cringe) and jump on the back of an unsaddled horse and have my photo taken??
But first, let Hans and Franz pump (clap!) you up!
Lonewolf_50 is online now  
Old 15th Aug 2022, 15:34
  #8013 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Rhone-Alpes
Posts: 1,174
Received 284 Likes on 159 Posts
Originally Posted by NutLoose
Why do I suddenly feel the urge to rip my shirt off, splash myself all over with Brut (cringe) ??
Well Nutty, that would go rather well with your hairdresser's car, don't you reckon ?
Tartiflette Fan is online now  
Old 15th Aug 2022, 16:03
  #8014 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Baston
Posts: 3,289
Received 721 Likes on 255 Posts
One would imagine that Putin's best bet would be to arm/ rearm and equip his own mob first?

Rather a lot of heavy gear may be left behind when the retreat gets under way. Putin cannot even trust his people to disable any serviceable ironmongery.
langleybaston is offline  
Old 15th Aug 2022, 16:29
  #8015 (permalink)  
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Peripatetic
Posts: 17,452
Received 1,617 Likes on 739 Posts
One would imagine that Putin's best bet would be to arm/ rearm and equip his own mob first?
I would suggest he doesn’t ask his generals what they want - their responses might resemble that of Galland to Goering…
ORAC is online now  
Old 15th Aug 2022, 16:30
  #8016 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: Rhone-Alpes
Posts: 1,174
Received 284 Likes on 159 Posts
Originally Posted by langleybaston
One would imagine that Putin's best bet would be to arm/ rearm and equip his own mob first?
.
Of course and the miserable state of the Russian army was discussed in some detail last week when Ruslan Pukhow, director of the Institute for Strategy and Technology ( part of the Defence Ministry ) - and supposedly an intimate of Putin - gave an interview to a Russian journalist which was astonishingly frank.

https://www.focus.de/politik/ausland...132941476.html

I also read somewhere this week that existing export orders for India and Egypt are being delayed to allow the equipment (tanks, I believe ) to be diverted to RF.
Tartiflette Fan is online now  
Old 15th Aug 2022, 16:44
  #8017 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Japan
Posts: 1,962
Received 151 Likes on 91 Posts
Originally Posted by ORAC
I would suggest he doesn’t ask his generals what they want - their responses might resemble that of Galland to Goering…
Had the great pleasure and honour of meeting and chatting with both Adolf Galland and Robert Stanford-Tuck in New York in the early 1970s.

I wish Putin had someone honest and straight-talking he could rely on to give him a few home truths.
jolihokistix is offline  
Old 15th Aug 2022, 18:01
  #8018 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Baston
Posts: 3,289
Received 721 Likes on 255 Posts
Originally Posted by jolihokistix
Had the great pleasure and honour of meeting and chatting with both Adolf Galland and Robert Stanford-Tuck in New York in the early 1970s.

I wish Putin had someone honest and straight-talking he could rely on to give him a few home truths.
Really? Surely best if he is misinformed by sycophants.
langleybaston is offline  
Old 15th Aug 2022, 18:57
  #8019 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: London
Posts: 1,578
Received 18 Likes on 10 Posts
Originally Posted by langleybaston
One would imagine that Putin's best bet would be to arm/ rearm and equip his own mob first?
Guessing he really needs the cash
dead_pan is online now  
Old 15th Aug 2022, 19:03
  #8020 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: London
Posts: 1,578
Received 18 Likes on 10 Posts
Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan
I also read somewhere this week that existing export orders for India and Egypt are being delayed to allow the equipment (tanks, I believe ) to be diverted to RF.
I'd read the Indian helo acquisition had been cancelled due to concerns regarding Russia's ability to supply spares.
dead_pan is online now  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.