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Is Ukraine about to have a war?

Old 15th Aug 2022, 11:01
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Russia now recruiting those over 50 to go to Ukraine….






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Old 15th Aug 2022, 12:03
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Well the whole of the northern Caucasus is an area to watch. If Putin falls and Russia has internal disorder don’t xpect Chechnya or th other republics not to stir up trouble.

Lots of anger at the disparate casualties in Ukraine as their men and sons have been fed into the meat grinder.whilst those in Moscow and S Petersburg have been spared…

And when the Chechens fighting for Ukraine head home they’ll undoubtedly take lots of experience and equipment with them - and volunteers and logistic support.
I have to say that -given the reputation of the Chechen as very tough fighters and the recent history of the brutal Russo/Chechen wars - I have been puzzled that Kadyrov is able to rule without any apparent internal discontent ( at least on what I read ) and giving enthusiastic support for Putin. Reports I have seen (linked on this site ? ) have shown that the Chechens were being treated like Moscovites in that their leaders were able to choose their engagements and chose the less risky ones. I recall them being in the rear of the fight for Kyev ( and part of the atrocities in the villages there ? ) and also as late-comers for the battle for Mariupol and the Azov steel-works.
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Balls of steel, looks like more bullsh*t Russian propaganda, you would not lift and carry those little blighters anywhere.

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Old 15th Aug 2022, 14:21
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Originally Posted by ORAC
Well the whole of the northern Caucasus is an area to watch. If Putin falls and Russia has internal disorder don’t xpect Chechnya or th other republics not to stir up trouble.

Lots of anger at the disparate casualties in Ukraine as their men and sons have been fed into the meat grinder.whilst those in Moscow and S Petersburg have been spared…
I would expect the next immediate flashpoint to be belarus if the ukrainians win. Theres a LOT or trained and equiped belarussians. While they wont be able to take western heavy hardware, cant imagine ukraine will much if any effort to prevent them taking ukrainian / ex soviet / captured russian hardware with them
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Old 15th Aug 2022, 14:44
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Originally Posted by rattman
I would expect the next immediate flashpoint to be Belarus if when the Ukrainians win. There's a LOT or trained and equipped Belarusian's. While they won't be able to take western heavy hardware, can't imagine Ukraine will much if any effort to prevent them taking Ukrainian / ex soviet / captured Russian hardware with them
Let's just correct that little word
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Well the rail bridge from Melitopol is well and truly shut, even Gupta in North West Frontier wouldn't cross that one

‎The partisans damaged the bridge near Melitopol and blocked the way of delivering ammunition from Crimea to the occupiers,‎

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Old 15th Aug 2022, 15:13
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It will buff up. Give or take a year or so.
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Old 15th Aug 2022, 15:26
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Putin has boasted to arm Russias allies with the latest arms technology: "[Russia] is ready to offer partners and allies the most modern types of weapons - from small arms to armoured vehicles and artillery, combat aircraft and unmanned aerial vehicles"

my question is: what is most modern type of Russian weaponry that might be of interest after showcasing their efficiency in the war in Ukraine? Tanks? Frigates? S400's? Fast jets?

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...es-2022-08-15/
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Old 15th Aug 2022, 16:02
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Putin has boasted to arm Russias allies with the latest arms technology
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...es-2022-08-15/
If you go a bit further down in the article, he also alludes to those who weren't at the fair as being girly-men, or something like that.
"I want to emphasize that Russia stands for the broadest comprehensive development military-technical cooperation. Today in conditions of confidence in the emerging multipolar world, this is especially important," Putin said.
"We highly appreciate the fact that our country has many like-minded allies and partners on different continents. These are the states that do not succumb to the so-called hegemon, their leaders show a real masculine character and do not bend."
I'll bet a nickel that he was addressing Latin American and South American customers.
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"I want to emphasize that Russia stands for the broadest comprehensive development military-technical cooperation. Today in conditions of confidence in the emerging multipolar world, this is especially important," Putin said.
"We highly appreciate the fact that our country has many like-minded allies and partners on different continents. These are the states that do not succumb to the so-called hegemon, their leaders show a real masculine character and do not bend."
Why do I suddenly feel the urge to rip my shirt off, splash myself all over with Brut (cringe) and jump on the back of an unsaddled horse and have my photo taken??
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Why do I suddenly feel the urge to rip my shirt off, splash myself all over with Brut (cringe) and jump on the back of an unsaddled horse and have my photo taken??
But first, let Hans and Franz pump (clap!) you up!
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Why do I suddenly feel the urge to rip my shirt off, splash myself all over with Brut (cringe) ??
Well Nutty, that would go rather well with your hairdresser's car, don't you reckon ?
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Old 15th Aug 2022, 17:03
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One would imagine that Putin's best bet would be to arm/ rearm and equip his own mob first?

Rather a lot of heavy gear may be left behind when the retreat gets under way. Putin cannot even trust his people to disable any serviceable ironmongery.
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Old 15th Aug 2022, 17:29
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One would imagine that Putin's best bet would be to arm/ rearm and equip his own mob first?
I would suggest he doesn’t ask his generals what they want - their responses might resemble that of Galland to Goering…
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Originally Posted by langleybaston
One would imagine that Putin's best bet would be to arm/ rearm and equip his own mob first?
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Of course and the miserable state of the Russian army was discussed in some detail last week when Ruslan Pukhow, director of the Institute for Strategy and Technology ( part of the Defence Ministry ) - and supposedly an intimate of Putin - gave an interview to a Russian journalist which was astonishingly frank.

https://www.focus.de/politik/ausland...132941476.html

I also read somewhere this week that existing export orders for India and Egypt are being delayed to allow the equipment (tanks, I believe ) to be diverted to RF.
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Old 15th Aug 2022, 17:44
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I would suggest he doesn’t ask his generals what they want - their responses might resemble that of Galland to Goering…
Had the great pleasure and honour of meeting and chatting with both Adolf Galland and Robert Stanford-Tuck in New York in the early 1970s.

I wish Putin had someone honest and straight-talking he could rely on to give him a few home truths.
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Originally Posted by jolihokistix
Had the great pleasure and honour of meeting and chatting with both Adolf Galland and Robert Stanford-Tuck in New York in the early 1970s.

I wish Putin had someone honest and straight-talking he could rely on to give him a few home truths.
Really? Surely best if he is misinformed by sycophants.
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Old 15th Aug 2022, 19:57
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Originally Posted by langleybaston
One would imagine that Putin's best bet would be to arm/ rearm and equip his own mob first?
Guessing he really needs the cash
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Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan
I also read somewhere this week that existing export orders for India and Egypt are being delayed to allow the equipment (tanks, I believe ) to be diverted to RF.
I'd read the Indian helo acquisition had been cancelled due to concerns regarding Russia's ability to supply spares.
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