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Is Ukraine about to have a war?

Old 11th Apr 2022, 08:44
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Originally Posted by peter we
As90 would be vastly more useful. Krab variant even more so.
UK ordered the K2 as a replacent last week.

No it didn't.
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Old 11th Apr 2022, 08:49
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Ukrainian armed forces on twitter regarding Russian losses. The amount of anything flying is of interest, if this is even in the range of actual situation the Russians are losing AC by the rate of 9 per day.

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Old 11th Apr 2022, 09:53
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Originally Posted by BANANASBANANAS
That is not what we need. There is enough confusion generated by the well intended without someone deliberately muddying the waters.
I was referring to the Twitter account in the link not Ninthace, to avoid any confusion.
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Old 11th Apr 2022, 10:02
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Originally Posted by dead_pan
I was referring to the Twitter account in the link not Ninthace, to avoid any confusion.
Possible links to the attack on the column here. Reddit posts tend to get deleted due to repeated posting so if you are late reading this they may be gone.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...eb2x&context=3

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...eb2x&context=3
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Old 11th Apr 2022, 10:21
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Plenty of fake footage around but this is convincing enough for me. One could almost feel sorry for the Russian conscripts -- if the world except Russia hadn't seen the horrific scenes from so many Ukrainian cities. Superb ambush.
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Old 11th Apr 2022, 10:47
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Originally Posted by Rockie_Rapier
...has not been mentioned in a while but NATO, or as I prefer the free world, has already crossed a couple of Mr Putin's red lines. Namely by imposing putative sanctions and supplying massive arms supplies. Putin said at the outset that he would consider such acts to be a declaration of war. His bluff was called.

Is it now time for NATO to enforce a no fly zone over the Ukraine?
Rumours now of some kind of Russian "provocation" in Moldova. Lots of NATO assets airborne on the border. What should NATO do if they do something nasty there?
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Old 11th Apr 2022, 10:59
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Originally Posted by dead_pan
I was referring to the Twitter account in the link not Ninthace, to avoid any confusion.
Yes, potential for us to be at cross purposes there. My comment was not directed at you or Ninthace but at the potential Walt twitter site.
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Old 11th Apr 2022, 11:32
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Originally Posted by Timmy Tomkins
Rumours now of some kind of Russian "provocation" in Moldova. Lots of NATO assets airborne on the border. What should NATO do if they do something nasty there?
There's been rumblings about Russia's presence in Moldova for a week or two now. Given its only a relatively small contingent of troops coupled with the fact they're now effectively cut-off from Russia, I'm not placing too much stall in this.

If anything I suspect the Russians would like to draw upon some their forces their to use in the east of Ukraine.

On a separate note, whatever happened to those four rust-bucket ships which set sail from eastern Russia during the first week of the conflict? No further news on these AFAIK
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Old 11th Apr 2022, 11:41
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Originally Posted by Wokkafans
Possible links to the attack on the column here. Reddit posts tend to get deleted due to repeated posting so if you are late reading this they may be gone.
They look like two different attacks, possibly neither of which were the one claimed in the Tweet.

In the second clip it was interesting to note that the gunners appear to have stay focused on whatever kit was hidden in the trees, not the troops fleeing the scene.
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Old 11th Apr 2022, 11:49
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They can publish all they want in Russia that the war is going well, but how can they hide the fact that it isn't when they start actively recruiting ex servicemen from way back in 2012, that has go to be a sign to the public that all is probably not well and the losses must be significant..

There is a film showing Russian troops heading for Ukraine and as the vehicles pass the locals are applauding them, one truck is actually being towed by another...I did think who posts these videos without looking at what is being shown, it's not exacty showing the Russian military at its finest having to tow their trucks into a warzone.
It is rather like the one with the temporary bridge crossing one where you can see sunken Russian tanks and vehicles either side, again not exactly the best thing to publish in a propaganda war.
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Old 11th Apr 2022, 12:14
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Originally Posted by dead_pan

On a separate note, whatever happened to those four rust-bucket ships which set sail from eastern Russia during the first week of the conflict? No further news on these AFAIK
Those were most probably taking part in the Kuril islands drills. Makes much more sense than trying to sneak them to Black Sea via closed Bosphorus. The troops and equipment would've made it much faster via railways if they would've been on their way to Ukraine.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...ia-2022-03-26/
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Old 11th Apr 2022, 12:16
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Since we are talking about Moldova, can anyone say if there has been any explanation why Ukraine has not attacked ( with one exception ) outside its borders ? My only thought was propaganda i;e. to not give Putin any opportunity to say that Ukraine is attacking them, but that was only valid for the first days of the conflict.
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Old 11th Apr 2022, 12:24
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Originally Posted by pr00ne
No it didn't.
Agree nothing I have read has mentioned it, I think the Krab will probably be the way they go,
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Old 11th Apr 2022, 12:29
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Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan
Since we are talking about Moldova, can anyone say if there has been any explanation why Ukraine has not attacked ( with one exception ) outside its borders ? My only thought was propaganda i;e. to not give Putin any opportunity to say that Ukraine is attacking them, but that was only valid for the first days of the conflict.

Probably not capable of it, there was the 2 strikes on the ammo and fuel dum probably husbanding its resources.

I suspect the switch blades might be a catalyst. Throw the SOF get them near an airfield and use switchblades to destroy planes and helicpters. Theres an airfield about 180 from the border that have about 20-30 combat aircraft flying for it
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Old 11th Apr 2022, 12:40
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The Moldovian Russian annex of 2000 troops isn't doing anything at the moment, so why stir up a hornets nest on your border that is combat inneffective when there are more pressing needs and bigger fish to fry.
Those troops also will be seeing Western media reports and I bet they do not relish getting involved as they are not as subject to the brainwashing going on with Russian state media.
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Old 11th Apr 2022, 13:50
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Rheinmetall ready to supply up to 50 tanks to Ukraine (Leopard 1 and Marder).

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...er-2022-04-11/
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Old 11th Apr 2022, 13:55
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I thought the Chancellor has blocked it?



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Old 11th Apr 2022, 14:09
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Not Yet approved by Government:

Four hours ago:

Berlin The armaments group Rheinmetall is preparing to deliver tanks to the Ukraine.This also includes the Leopard 1 battle tank, as CEO Armin Papperger told the Handelsblatt.This is the predecessor of the Leopard 2 currently used by the Bundeswehr. "The first Leopard 1 could be delivered in six weeks," said Papperger.The prerequisite for this is the approval of the federal government.Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock (Greens) stressed on Monday on the sidelines of a meeting of EU foreign ministers in Luxembourg that Ukraine needed more military material - including heavy weapons."Now is no time for excuses, now is the time for creativity and pragmatism," emphasized Baerbock.
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Old 11th Apr 2022, 14:33
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
I thought the Chancellor has blocked it?

https://twitter.com/ukraine_world/st...79162618646532
It has been the defence minister - Christine Lambrecht - who has blocked this, plus other armoured vehicles, plus artillery. Her argument is that these units are pledged to NATO and cannot therefore be "removed" . This sounds plausible, but ignores the fact that Germany has been failing to meet many NATO obligations for years now.

Lambrecht is on the left of the SPD and very evidently doesn't want to supply weapons. She has , for example, said that the Ukranians had specifically asked for details of weapons transfer to be kept secret. The Ukranian ambassador has flat out denied that, saying that they are happy for news, quantities of weapons supply to be made public, but not timings and routings. The widely-believed implication is that she fears details of Germany's weak performance would humiliate her. She made a statement the other day that Germany was the biggest supplier of arms to Ukraine: it then turned out that her criterion was weight ! This was based on a few old BMP's from old stock somewhere. She was also the one responsible for Germany's initial effort which was a shipment of 5 000 helmets as her intention was only to deliver "defensive " goods.

Scholz has already stripped her of some major responsibilities and she is not expected to last long.

Before the election she had announced she was going to resign and go back to her "dream-job" of being a lawyer, but changed her mind when offered the defence Ministry.



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Old 11th Apr 2022, 14:38
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With "friends" like her ...

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