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Is Ukraine about to have a war?

Old 5th Apr 2022, 10:18
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Recall that there are still people alive in Germany who participated in similar atrocities during WW2. Not that the fact obscures the appallingly similar previous behaviour of Russian troops as they invaded Germany - mass rapes for example.

Meanwhile much of Europe funds Russian atrocities by the continued purchase of Russian gas and oil. It's obviously far more important to sustain manufacture and export of German cars in the short to medium term than to shut off Russian financial resources - despite some window-dressing to the contrary.

The fact is that Europe will need to accept very serious financial damage if Russia is to be stopped. I say "Russia" rather than "Putin" because the vast majority of Russians have swallowed his lies and wish for a "Greater Russia", restoring some imaginary nobility to a despicable nation.
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Been denied by the ukrainian govt, I tend to believe them in this case, no armband, clean shaven, well fed and no injuries you would expect from 40 days of fighting
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Clearing their field for planting?


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Old 5th Apr 2022, 10:32
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US has just sold F-16's to Bulgaria, freeing up other assets for elsewhere?

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Old 5th Apr 2022, 11:14
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Originally Posted by Old-Duffer
NutLoose please can I suggest a small flaw about using postal services to track identity of Russian in the postal system. The Belarus is essentially enemy territory and might be reluctant to provide evidence against Russian troops.

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Like I said, do not under estimate facial recognition and postal hacking, names and areas items looted have been sent too.

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/04/4/7337132/

Opposition journalists were able to obtain telephone numbers, military units and cities of residence of the Russian occupiers, who arranged the delivery of looted items of Ukrainians in Mozyr.

Source: Belaruski Haiun

Details: Most of the Russian soldiers arranged the delivery of stolen items to Rubtsovsk in the Altai Region.
They also sent the stolen items to:
  • Gornyak (Altai Region)
  • Chita (Zabaykalsky Region)
  • Zheleznogorsk (Krasnoyarsk Region)
  • Omsk
  • Ulyanovsk
  • Novosibirsk
  • Moscow
  • Angarsk (Irkutsk Region)
  • Ussuriysk (Primorsky Region)
  • Birobidzhan (Jewish Autonomous District, near the China–Russia border)
In one day on 2 April, the Russian occupiers handed over about 2 tons of looted equipment, personal belongings, clothing and precious metals to the branch of the Russian delivery service "CDEK" in Mozyr.

The authors of the project Belaruski Haiun are currently publishing a list of Russian troops, who handed over the largest amount of looted property in Ukraine on April 2:
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  • Kovalenko Evgeny Evgenyevich sent 450 kilograms (about 900 pounds) of instruments, musiс speakers, a table, a tent, and other items to Rubtsovsk. Phone: +79130213100
  • Lazarev Artem Petrovich sent 255 kilograms of spare parts and an electric scooter to Rubtsovsk. Phone: +79132257343
  • Nikolaev Pavel Alexandrovich sent 205 kilograms of tools, a TV-set and a chair to Rubtsovsk. Phone: +79235652819
  • Serdtsev Andrey Nikolaevich sent 150 kilograms of tools, things and a TV-set to Rubtsovsk. Phone: +79831816692
  • Valiev George Muratovich sent 150 kilograms of tools and things to Rubtsovsk. Phone: +79133660555
  • Stepanov Nikolai Nikolaevich sent 140 kilograms of spare parts and air conditioners to Ussuriysk. Phone: 89146747822
  • Kanbolatov Eldar Arslanovich sent 140 kilograms of tools and clothes to Rubtsovsk. Phone: +79230096646
  • Zhukovsky Roman Alexandrovich sent 130 kilograms of tools, things and a TV-set to Rubtsovsk. Phone: +79133615429
  • Chuchalin Evgeny Viktorovich sent 100 kilograms of tools, things and several TV-sets to Rubtsovsk. Phone: +79230018617
  • Voloshchuk Ivan Ivanovich sent 95 kg of tools, things and a TV set to Rubtsovsk. Phone: +79627939791 (wife/mother number)
  • Kolotsey Sergey Alexandrovich sent 90 kg to Ulyanovsk, in particular a trunk lid. Phone: +79378814554 (relative’s phone number)
  • Yushin Vladimir Sergeevich sent 85 kg of clothes to Chita. Phone: +79243830515
  • Grigoryan Artur Ashotovich sent 60 kg to Gornyak. There were batteries and spare parts for computers. Phone: +79831066239
  • Shulaikin Nikolai Nikolaevich sent 60 kg of clothes and fishing tackle to Birobidzhan.
Phone: +79142155101
  • Datsyuk Ivan Andreevich sent 60 kg of clothes to Rubtsovsk. Phone: +79137976731
  • Kuzmin Igor Sergeevich sent 50 kg of tools and things to Rubtsovsk. Phone: +79236497934
Belarusian journalists want to draw attention of the Security Service of Ukraine to their data so that they could initiate criminal proceedings against the Russian occupiers for looting.

Previously: On 3 April, the Belaruski Haiun project released more than 3 hours of video footage from a surveillance camera of the CDEK delivery service office in Mozyr, Belarus, near the state border with Ukraine. The video clearly shows the faces and some chevrons on the sleeves of the occupiers. The invaders arranged the delivery of looted items to Russia.

"Our forces are performing true acts of heroism there. The enemy is sustaining heavy losses in planes, armoured vehicles and manpower"- said Sinegubov.
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First of Australia's vehicles readied for delivery to Ukraine.

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Old 5th Apr 2022, 11:35
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Like I said, do not under estimate facial recognition and postal hacking, names and areas items looted have been sent too.

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/04/4/7337132/
Nutty, believe I forgot to thank you yesterday for all that information about what percentages of equipment etc had been destroyed. It was far more complete that I had expected, so repairing the error today - thanks !
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I hope she is salvageable and the damage is not great.









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Old 5th Apr 2022, 11:49
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Video of inspecting the Myra damage

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Old 5th Apr 2022, 11:58
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Originally Posted by dead_pan

Interesting reply on the thread

Interestingly it seems the Stugna-P gunner avoids directly designating the target until the very last moment - meaning the Ka-52's L140 [email protected] warning sensors would have little to no chance to alert to the crew to the incoming missile.
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Ukrainians downing a Russian Ka-52 Hokum helicopter with an Stugna-P.

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Naturally all depending on how sensitive the [email protected] warning sensor is but I'd doubt just aiming the [email protected] just a few meters off target would render it null and void, would be enough scatter in the atmosphere to direct lots of energy right at the helicopter and it's sensor.

And while everyone keeps on going on about how poorly the Russians are going I bet there's lots of notes being taken down all across the globe in regards how tanks/mechanized units vs modern ATGM's and UAV's look in today's day and age. It's the first time we have seen fully modern ATGM's and UAV's take on tanks, doubt the US thunder run for Bagdad could have survived the armament available today.
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Naturally all depending on how sensitive the [email protected] warning sensor is but I'd doubt just aiming the [email protected] just a few meters off target would render it null and void, would be enough scatter in the atmosphere to direct lots of energy right at the helicopter and it's sensor.
Could be a buddy lase? Not sure if Stugna is capable of that. As for scatter/overspill/underspill etc, I’m pretty sure that the beam dispersal would be minimal over those ranges. Add in the fact that the 52 is NOE, it would make it slightly more challenging for said LWR’s to ID and warn. I think that crew wishes they had a Roof Mounted sight and not a Glass Jaw sensor.

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Czech are providing tanks.

Czechs to supply up to 40 pieces of T-72M1 and BVP-1 (BMP-1 variant) to Ukraine. The equipment is from the storage of Czech Army and unrelated to the ex-East German Pbv-501s.
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Estonia has donated anti-tank missiles, howitzers, anti-tank mines, recoilless anti-tank guns, automatic weapons, ammunition, disposable grenade launchers, hand grenades worth >220 million euros.

Pretty incredible when you consider the size of the population of Estonia. If the US were to give at the same rate, you'd be looking at $80B
Considering the difference in economic might, the US would be looking at more like $155B
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Not big in the scheme of things but this video of a Stugna ATGM team engaging is very enlightening , and has good subtitles.


( Buratino is a TOS launch vehicle)
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Originally Posted by Usertim
Not big in the scheme of things but this video of a Stugna ATGM team engaging is very enlightening , and has good subtitles.
https://youtu.be/8FrYM7CxYsU


( Buratino is a TOS launch vehicle)
Did they hit the Buratino because a sub-title said "fuel truck" at the end.
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Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan
Did they hit the Buratino because a sub-title said "fuel truck" at the end.
Well I guess it is not clear from images. I kind of understood the bit at the end to be that they engaged a fuel truck too after , but the video ended , maybe they were countered or missed.

They were pretty clear the TOS launcher was the priority, and something was hit .
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