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Is Ukraine about to have a war?

Old 7th Mar 2022, 16:34
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Andrily Tsaplienko on Telegram has just posted a video showing a large column of destroyed fuel trucks.

Nice tactics from the Ukrainian forces.
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Old 7th Mar 2022, 16:45
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Originally Posted by macmp419
Andrily Tsaplienko on Telegram has just posted a video showing a large column of destroyed fuel trucks.

Nice tactics from the Ukrainian forces.
There are dozens of videos showing hundreds of destroyed and captured vehicles.
Disaster for the invading force.
Thousands dead very possible. .
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Old 7th Mar 2022, 17:00
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Daily Telegraph posted at 16:15 today.
Russian military losses are being catalogued by observers relying only on visible and verified images, such as a crashed jet or burnt-out tank, posted on social media or recorded by journalists.

The true losses may be higher still as a consequence, but verified photographs and footage show that 11 Russian planes, 11 helicopters and two drones have been shot down since the invasion began 12 days ago, including nine over the weekend.

Russian jets destroyed include at least four Su-34 fighter/bomber aircraft, four Su-25 ground attack fighters, two Su-30 fighter jets and nine attack helicopters. The economic cost is huge, estimated at almost a quarter of a billion pounds for warplanes alone.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-ne...ble-fortnight/
Seems the Ukrainian reported numbers may not be far off the mark!
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Old 7th Mar 2022, 17:36
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Filmed from a drone, fight in Kherson

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Old 7th Mar 2022, 17:41
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
As above about helicopter destroyed on the ground, not confirmed
(not as a mod)
I noted this in a tweet below the one you highlighted:



The tweet is from a journalist working in Moscow.
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Old 7th Mar 2022, 18:12
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reported Su-34 shot down last night in kharkiv

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Old 7th Mar 2022, 18:28
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The Dublin Russian Embassy is going to need a new set of gates and a lick of paint as a truck driver decided to reverse through them

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Old 7th Mar 2022, 18:49
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Russian fuel convoy destroyed.

War in Ukraine

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A Russian fuel convoy was ambushed in Chernihiv Oblast. https://t.me/istorijaoruzija/40819


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Old 7th Mar 2022, 19:10
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Russian shot down helicopter pilot appeals to fellow soldiers. BEWARE GRAPHIC IMAGE OF SEVERE BURNS

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Old 7th Mar 2022, 19:43
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What are the odds that the Russians ever pull back from the territory they have gained so far?
In the south, I'd say very low.
In the north, maybe. (These are things that I suspect are already being raised in "the talks" that are ongoing).

Which airfields (civilian and military) in those zones are now in Russian-occupied territory?

I keep going back to this, but the port city of Mariupol looks to be a serious campaign objective.
I don't think Putin will stop until they have it.

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Old 7th Mar 2022, 19:47
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Something nice in a world gone to sh*te

watch it all.

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Old 7th Mar 2022, 19:58
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Someone has a great sense of humor. Thanks, Nutty.
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Old 7th Mar 2022, 20:03
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Al Jazeera have managed to get into the centre of Kharkiv….. stunned

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Old 7th Mar 2022, 20:06
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Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50
What are the odds that the Russians ever pull back from the territory they have gained so far?
In the south, I'd say very low.
In the north, maybe. (These are things that I suspect are already being raised in "the talks" that are ongoing).

Which airfields (civilian and military) in those zones are now in Russian-occupied territory?

I keep going back to this, but the port city of Mariupol looks to be a serious campaign objective.
I don't think Putin will stop until they have it.
No argument. We can only speculate, but I hope they enjoy not one moment of peace for as long as they remain anywhere in Ukraine. May this venture bleed them dry in every way and give them only regrets for ever thinking they could do this with no accountability. May all of Europe unite against such aggression and do all that is necessary to thwart future acts of aggression by Putin.
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Old 7th Mar 2022, 20:08
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Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50
What are the odds that the Russians ever pull back from the territory they have gained so far?
In the south, I'd say very low.
In the north, maybe. (These are things that I suspect are already being raised in "the talks" that are ongoing).

Which airfields (civilian and military) in those zones are now in Russian-occupied territory?

I keep going back to this, but the port city of Mariupol looks to be a serious campaign objective.
I don't think Putin will stop until they have it.
I don't think they're going to have a choice. I can't see any Ukrainian being happy until every last Russian has been driven from their land; With the courage the Ukrainians have shown thus far, continued military aid and int, and the weight of sanctions pressing down on the Russian economy, I hope this turns into a full-scale route.

Easy to say from the warmth of my pit, when I and my family are safe. But if I were Ukrainian, I'd be angry. Very angry.
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Old 7th Mar 2022, 20:16
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I hope that the Russians are forced to leave the whole Country and that the EU and NATO allow them to join, I do not think it is acceptable to anyone that Russia retains hold of ANY territory and I hope that sanctions will remain in force crippling Russia until their total and utter removal, ideally someone needs to removed Putin, replace him and call for an immediate withdrawal of all forces back to Russian territories. I would also demand reparations including those ships stolen when they invaded the Crimea.
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Old 7th Mar 2022, 20:18
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Nutty: getting Russia to join the EU would be a political master stroke, by whomever figures out how to do it.
Mind you, I was also saying that in the late 1990's.
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Old 7th Mar 2022, 20:22
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I meant the Ukraine
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Old 7th Mar 2022, 20:23
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Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50
What are the odds that the Russians ever pull back from the territory they have gained so far?
In the south, I'd say very low.
In the north, maybe. (These are things that I suspect are already being raised in "the talks" that are ongoing).

Which airfields (civilian and military) in those zones are now in Russian-occupied territory?

I keep going back to this, but the port city of Mariupol looks to be a serious campaign objective.
I don't think Putin will stop until they have it.
Contrary view to other posters - alas I don't think there is any prospect of Russia giving up any territory gained, assuming they can "freeze" the conflict at a point which suits (a big if, assuming Ukraine keeps on fighting). Any attack on captured territory would therefore be viewed as an attack on Russia itself and would likely be met with major retaliation (nukes).

The question for me is how the populace in the captured cities will likely respond to living under Russian occupation, especially given Russia's economic travails. Major - and widespread - unrest, could place a major drain on its military resources and morale.
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