Parliamentary Questions concerning Hercules Safety
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thankyou for the offer nige. i really don't want to step away from this because of unreasonable scare tatics. i will only leave this campaign if i absolutely have to.
i appreciate the support flip. i'm annoyed that yet again i'm in the position in which i'm asking for reassurances. i'm finding it annoying and so i'm sure that everyone else is. it's just that myself and mr chappie are in the middle of the situation and therefore are unable to make an impartial opinion on this matter. thankyou for your tolerance in the matter.
i will continue until/unless it's been made clear otherwise that i can't as i stand to jepordise the families attempts at getting bob home.
i think a need to regroup and rethink might be in need to see if for one last time we can't get the media behind us. frederick forsyth was in the express yesterday stating that considering john reid has admitted that his piece in the paper last week was perfectly true about the men need never being lost why aren't the families chanting their rage at the door of downing street? why aren't the media creating a roar. he clearly has lived on another planet as i was at the door of downing street the other week, but tony did not want to come and play! this man is in the media so why won't he help us and go and bang on a few desks, shake his fist and shout? i plan to write to him. as i said i'm using the weekend for a bit of quiet time to avert anymore emotional moments. i will be rethinking about how to wake up the lion of fleet street and seeing if we can get the column inches away from the size of prescotts willy and onto the lives and welfare of our troops. from what i've read prescott needs all the inches he can get....!
i appreciate the support flip. i'm annoyed that yet again i'm in the position in which i'm asking for reassurances. i'm finding it annoying and so i'm sure that everyone else is. it's just that myself and mr chappie are in the middle of the situation and therefore are unable to make an impartial opinion on this matter. thankyou for your tolerance in the matter.
i will continue until/unless it's been made clear otherwise that i can't as i stand to jepordise the families attempts at getting bob home.
i think a need to regroup and rethink might be in need to see if for one last time we can't get the media behind us. frederick forsyth was in the express yesterday stating that considering john reid has admitted that his piece in the paper last week was perfectly true about the men need never being lost why aren't the families chanting their rage at the door of downing street? why aren't the media creating a roar. he clearly has lived on another planet as i was at the door of downing street the other week, but tony did not want to come and play! this man is in the media so why won't he help us and go and bang on a few desks, shake his fist and shout? i plan to write to him. as i said i'm using the weekend for a bit of quiet time to avert anymore emotional moments. i will be rethinking about how to wake up the lion of fleet street and seeing if we can get the column inches away from the size of prescotts willy and onto the lives and welfare of our troops. from what i've read prescott needs all the inches he can get....!
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omigawd - how very embarrassing! Sorry, everyone. Yes, an orrible typo - and me normally paranoid about fact-checking, too. Anyway, thank you for pointing it out. I'll see what happens.
Flipster - thanks. Interesting - I emailed Mr Gray at [email protected]
as listed in his website http://www.jamesgray.org/Contact.htm
and it hasn't bounced back. I've not had a reply, though, and I have had acknowledgements from the copy addressees, D Cameron and L Fox. Perhaps [email protected] is an alternative.
Anyroadup, I'll try and do better next time......
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Flipster - thanks. Interesting - I emailed Mr Gray at [email protected]
as listed in his website http://www.jamesgray.org/Contact.htm
and it hasn't bounced back. I've not had a reply, though, and I have had acknowledgements from the copy addressees, D Cameron and L Fox. Perhaps [email protected] is an alternative.
Anyroadup, I'll try and do better next time......
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please stop the world i want to get off. i've heard on the news about the helicopter crash in exactly the same way i heard of bob's crash. we need all of you home now. remember there is alot of families feeling raw, that is even if they know.
talk about our techology superiority....forget it. we will be waiting for the news of our hercs coming down soon. god help them all.
i've just watched all the iraqui's cheer, why can't that prick blair's conscience?
talk about our techology superiority....forget it. we will be waiting for the news of our hercs coming down soon. god help them all.
i've just watched all the iraqui's cheer, why can't that prick blair's conscience?
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A400M Good News
On a weekend when we have been reminded, once again, of the ever present dangers our servicemen are facing, and the terrible loss of life that can result, I wanted to bring some good news.
A400M. 25 ac on order. A few days ago 9xDAS, NIL Fuel tank inerting kits.
Well I understand that following R4 and C4 on Tuesday some pretty major decisions have been taken. So much so that I believe that this aircraft is now sorted and can go on our mission just about complete file! All this unofficial by the way...........
A400M. 25 ac on order. A few days ago 9xDAS, NIL Fuel tank inerting kits.
Well I understand that following R4 and C4 on Tuesday some pretty major decisions have been taken. So much so that I believe that this aircraft is now sorted and can go on our mission just about complete file! All this unofficial by the way...........
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There's a blunt comment on this whole sorry issue over at http://www.chickyog.net/2006/05/04/h...lson-to-blame/
It’s impeccable logic. Just because a Hercules had never been brought down by small arms fire before there was no need to shell out a mere £50,000 per plane on speculative future attacks.
Look out for Reid in the papers in the next day or so saying the the Prime Minister and his wife should give up their bullet-proof and bomb-proof cars and be given simple umbrellas. “The whole history of New Labour,” he will say, “has illustrated that the least threat to them is from bullets and bombs and the biggest threat is from being pelted with eggs and rotting vegetables.”
It’s impeccable logic. Just because a Hercules had never been brought down by small arms fire before there was no need to shell out a mere £50,000 per plane on speculative future attacks.
Look out for Reid in the papers in the next day or so saying the the Prime Minister and his wife should give up their bullet-proof and bomb-proof cars and be given simple umbrellas. “The whole history of New Labour,” he will say, “has illustrated that the least threat to them is from bullets and bombs and the biggest threat is from being pelted with eggs and rotting vegetables.”
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Interesting link. I would caution people about the comments by Edward Teague, they are way off the mark. The politicians learnt nothing from the Vietnam War, but they appear to be learning quite quickly now the heat has been well and truly applied on them.
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Sunday Express
Big plug for the campaign in the Sunday Express today. Michael Knapp has a go at the Hercules. I bet the MoD wished they had not canx anti-missile prog now. John Nichol also has kind words to say about the campaign, and at the same time has a massive side swipe at James Gray. I wonder if his leader will have anything to say to him tomorrow! I do not think this is available on internet so thought it best to scribe the paragraph here. Words of John Nichol.
"Former RAF pilot Nigel Gilbert has been at the forefront of exposing the scandal surrounding the Hercules crash in Iraq. Yet his local MP James Gray attacked Nigel saying "He keeps going on about the same story. I think he should just let it lie." I am truly astonished by such arrant and insulting nonsense.
Our Armed Forces are willing to take incredible personal risks to ensure the job is done. They do it despite puerile jibes from politicians who would never have the courage to pick up a weapon. They do it regardless of the penny-pinching and bickering over a few pounds that can cost lives. They do it because they are proud, brave, dedicated and honest - qualities sadly lacking in many of their political leaders."
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"Former RAF pilot Nigel Gilbert has been at the forefront of exposing the scandal surrounding the Hercules crash in Iraq. Yet his local MP James Gray attacked Nigel saying "He keeps going on about the same story. I think he should just let it lie." I am truly astonished by such arrant and insulting nonsense.
Our Armed Forces are willing to take incredible personal risks to ensure the job is done. They do it despite puerile jibes from politicians who would never have the courage to pick up a weapon. They do it regardless of the penny-pinching and bickering over a few pounds that can cost lives. They do it because they are proud, brave, dedicated and honest - qualities sadly lacking in many of their political leaders."
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I believe the C17 has an onboard inerting system that purges oxygen from the fuel and ullage - called OBIGGS. The A400 on the other hand.......will have zilch at the moment!
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you will find that James Gray's email address is [email protected]
was recently contacted by Wiltshire conservative party, that is the email address on the advertising bumpf they send out.
Hope that most certainly helps.
was recently contacted by Wiltshire conservative party, that is the email address on the advertising bumpf they send out.
Hope that most certainly helps.
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calling all ebay fanatics
morning ladies and gents of the british armed forces, hope you are well today. having enjoyed a little rest away from campaigning for the weekend i return restored and ready for action. usual activity is checking the papers for any links to the campaign. this morning got a shock and i need help please.
today's daily mail (8 May) has a snippet of info that there is someone on ebay who has put stills from the terrorist video of the wreckage of crash that my brother was killed in on sale. i'm shocked that there is someone who has them but also thinks there is someone who wants to buy them. there is talk of human bodies/parts on display. i think that they have been withdrawn from sale. this is only after a barrage of complaints.
being an e bay virgin i don't know how to track them down. the person who was selling is from scotland. i need to know if there is any way i can get them out of this lunatics hands so that none of the families are aware of this. the t
t mat try to do it again. i want to give that heartless foubarred idiot a piece of my mind. so please can any one help me?
today's daily mail (8 May) has a snippet of info that there is someone on ebay who has put stills from the terrorist video of the wreckage of crash that my brother was killed in on sale. i'm shocked that there is someone who has them but also thinks there is someone who wants to buy them. there is talk of human bodies/parts on display. i think that they have been withdrawn from sale. this is only after a barrage of complaints.
being an e bay virgin i don't know how to track them down. the person who was selling is from scotland. i need to know if there is any way i can get them out of this lunatics hands so that none of the families are aware of this. the t
t mat try to do it again. i want to give that heartless foubarred idiot a piece of my mind. so please can any one help me?
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sorry me again!
FJJP, Filthy, please can you PM me again. i have cleared out my inbox and there is trace of your messages.
i told you that i'm not computer literate. after having had my rest away i am now definitely sure that any speculation of me using bob as political pawn is rubbish. i think that i got too wrapped up in everything and unable to see clearly. sorted now. thankyou.
i was shown how to email blair the other day here goes. www.pmo.gov.uk then follow link to email blair. i think a daily reminder of who i am and how you all suffer because of his inability to spend money correctly has meant that i'm now in his life!
ref express article which bright spark thought that having the hercules fly goods from next/boots was any less of a target? the article states; aircraft supposedly supplying arms and equipment to british forces in iraq and afghanistan have turned into flying "shopping trolleys" to keep them away from enemy fire! this is thought to have been brought about as a result of the shooting down of xv179 in jan 05. has anyone stopped to think that the terrorist on the ground is not going to give a that the plane has got immac and rasor blades on board and not 50 troops?! is this a ploy to say that foam is not needed as those are the only missions that the albert does now?
just to say, myself and steady's parents are off to the solicitor's on wednesday this week. watch this space.
take care and please be safe. my thoughts and prayers are with you all.
i told you that i'm not computer literate. after having had my rest away i am now definitely sure that any speculation of me using bob as political pawn is rubbish. i think that i got too wrapped up in everything and unable to see clearly. sorted now. thankyou.
i was shown how to email blair the other day here goes. www.pmo.gov.uk then follow link to email blair. i think a daily reminder of who i am and how you all suffer because of his inability to spend money correctly has meant that i'm now in his life!
ref express article which bright spark thought that having the hercules fly goods from next/boots was any less of a target? the article states; aircraft supposedly supplying arms and equipment to british forces in iraq and afghanistan have turned into flying "shopping trolleys" to keep them away from enemy fire! this is thought to have been brought about as a result of the shooting down of xv179 in jan 05. has anyone stopped to think that the terrorist on the ground is not going to give a
that the plane has got immac and rasor blades on board and not 50 troops?! is this a ploy to say that foam is not needed as those are the only missions that the albert does now?just to say, myself and steady's parents are off to the solicitor's on wednesday this week. watch this space.
take care and please be safe. my thoughts and prayers are with you all.
Hello, chappie.
A PPRuNer tipped us off about a DVD being advertised on eBay yesterday. Immediately, a number of us independently reported the item to the eBay Community Watch team as it was in clear breach of eBay's clearly stated policy which prohibits the auction selling of such items.
The item was removed from sale very shortly after the Community Watch team were informed.
Surprisingly, not only did someone try to sell this item, but someone else actually put in a bid for it. Appalling - I hope that both are investigated to establish whether any link with enemy insurgent groups exists.
Good luck on Wednesday!
A PPRuNer tipped us off about a DVD being advertised on eBay yesterday. Immediately, a number of us independently reported the item to the eBay Community Watch team as it was in clear breach of eBay's clearly stated policy which prohibits the auction selling of such items.
The item was removed from sale very shortly after the Community Watch team were informed.
Surprisingly, not only did someone try to sell this item, but someone else actually put in a bid for it. Appalling - I hope that both are investigated to establish whether any link with enemy insurgent groups exists.
Good luck on Wednesday!
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Heard the statement from the Defence Secretary about the loss of the Lynx on the 6 O'Clock news this evening. He said that the Lynx had "a suite of defensive aids..........."
Now where have we heard that phrase before?
Now where have we heard that phrase before?
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If there were a few noses out of joint at DEC yesterday, I can tell you that you have been saved a whole heap of trouble coming your way from a certain media channel!!! Just remember we may be saving lives.
Kind regards,
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With regard to Nov 4 posting, I cannot speak for the Lynx, but with regard to the C130 the phrase provided no reassurance.
Kind regards,
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With regard to Nov 4 posting, I cannot speak for the Lynx, but with regard to the C130 the phrase provided no reassurance.