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I never said they did not complete the course, or the base training. I said that I heard, admittedly second-hand, that the [paid-for] base training was not forthcoming from Astraeus, and that they had to organise it themselves through G.P. (you know who I mean), and that they had delays getting the corresponding money back from Astraeus.
Given there is usually no smoke without fire, can you clarify this Hamrah?
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Given there is usually no smoke without fire, can you clarify this Hamrah?
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Certainly, Arrowhead.
having no A320's in our fleet, we contract out the Base Training element of the course.
Students pay for their course in advance for the various elements.
Before the base training, for which the students had NOT paid, and had NOT been asked to pay, we pointed out that there would be a saving to them if they paid the supplier directly. This represented a significant saving to the students because of the VAT.
They sensibly took that option. I repeat..they had NOT paid Astraeus for that part of their training.
If your
source would care to contact me, I would be more than happy to clarify the REAL situation for them.
having no A320's in our fleet, we contract out the Base Training element of the course.
Students pay for their course in advance for the various elements.
Before the base training, for which the students had NOT paid, and had NOT been asked to pay, we pointed out that there would be a saving to them if they paid the supplier directly. This represented a significant saving to the students because of the VAT.
They sensibly took that option. I repeat..they had NOT paid Astraeus for that part of their training.
If your
Admittedly second hand
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Astraeus/Bond Self sponsored TR scheme
Hi guys
I'm looking for my first job and wondering if anyone had any experiences good or bad with the astraeus TR scheme. I'm considering applying for it but don't want to dive in and end up with no job. I'm pretty sure you are all going to say don't buy a type rating, but if i did and didn't get a job with Astraeus what chance would there be of any other airlines taking on a fATPL with a 737 TR.
Thanks
CH
I'm looking for my first job and wondering if anyone had any experiences good or bad with the astraeus TR scheme. I'm considering applying for it but don't want to dive in and end up with no job. I'm pretty sure you are all going to say don't buy a type rating, but if i did and didn't get a job with Astraeus what chance would there be of any other airlines taking on a fATPL with a 737 TR.
Thanks
CH
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Have a search around.. i remember a few threads on this subject - here's a rather lengthy one that may help:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...eus+stapleford
Bare in mind that the market is improving and the trend of self-sponsored type ratings may be a temporary glitch (and buying one yourself may extend it blahblahblah
)
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...eus+stapleford
Bare in mind that the market is improving and the trend of self-sponsored type ratings may be a temporary glitch (and buying one yourself may extend it blahblahblah
)
Trend of self-sponsored type-ratings will continue. Company accountants have figured out that people will pay for training so there's no way back now. With margins in the industry so tight any opportunity to reduce costs will be taken. I disagree with it but I don't think there's any way we'll go back to the old days of fully-sponsorsed schemes.
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Hello Captain Holland,
Once again, I say that a type rating will not for sure give you a job, but it will put you in a better situation to get one than when you are Ab-initio. I know several guys who did a TR and get a job right after, I know other several guys who had an interview but didn't succeed, I did myself a TR and I'm now flying the 737 in a sunny country.
If you decide to do a TR Astraeus is one of the best TRTO for that, very pro, good instructors, and not so expensive.
If you can afford it, just do it.
Once again, I say that a type rating will not for sure give you a job, but it will put you in a better situation to get one than when you are Ab-initio. I know several guys who did a TR and get a job right after, I know other several guys who had an interview but didn't succeed, I did myself a TR and I'm now flying the 737 in a sunny country.
If you decide to do a TR Astraeus is one of the best TRTO for that, very pro, good instructors, and not so expensive.
If you can afford it, just do it.
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Astraeus are very good. Excellent instructors. Got 737 job straight away after completing TR (no line trainig).
Nothing is guarenteed though. A good contact within a potential company still remains extremely important. A TR does put you above the competition, especially when the market is picking up. When there is a lot of shuffling going on within the industry and 737 FOs are moving to BA/Virgin etc then having a TR makes you attractive to recruiters looking for a quick fix/solution.
Life's a gamble. Paying for a TR worked for me. Best of luck.
Pint'alfempty
Nothing is guarenteed though. A good contact within a potential company still remains extremely important. A TR does put you above the competition, especially when the market is picking up. When there is a lot of shuffling going on within the industry and 737 FOs are moving to BA/Virgin etc then having a TR makes you attractive to recruiters looking for a quick fix/solution.
Life's a gamble. Paying for a TR worked for me. Best of luck.
Pint'alfempty
Ham Phisted - Maybe, but how long do you think it would take them to change their minds should they have to start sub-chartering flights to cover holes in their workforce (I estimate the cost of a sub-charter is more or less equal to the cost of one type-rating)? There are still plenty of airlines that don't ask for a contribution to the type-rating.
Nothing is guaranteed in aviation.
Nothing is guaranteed in aviation.
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The best thing about paying for a type rating is getting a job afterwards...........
........then finding out that when You change fleet and/or company, you have to pay £20,000 all over again.......
Did you see that coming in your immediate haste?
........then finding out that when You change fleet and/or company, you have to pay £20,000 all over again.......
Did you see that coming in your immediate haste?
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had 6 mates go through them. taken them all 1 year, yes that is 1 year to do the course and not because they are lacking in grey matter or skill, just messed around ridiculously. not so much the training or pilots fault i believe, they all seem really good, just politics and management. i would go to GECAT on a A320 if i were you. cheaper too!!!
GOOD LUCK
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I am considering the 737 type course @ Hubair that does its training via Astraeus. Anyone experience with this combination?
How long does the program take usually?
They also offer 100 hrs with Astraeus. Anyone experience with this?
Any info much appreciated
How long does the program take usually?
They also offer 100 hrs with Astraeus. Anyone experience with this?
Any info much appreciated
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Wakey wakey folks. The industry is doing well, people are getting jobs and the need for paying for an endorsement is non existent.
Those that do are wasting their money and should have their heads examined. Me 30 and just got my first jet job. 3700 hours and 6 turbo props on my licence. Flown all over the world and had a blast getting to the airlines.
Do it the old fashion way and earn the endorsement. Rumours floating around that MOL's gang on the Emerald Isle are giving them out. On the qt by the sounds of it.
Again those who pay for a job are a joke. I and others laugh at you......
Those that do are wasting their money and should have their heads examined. Me 30 and just got my first jet job. 3700 hours and 6 turbo props on my licence. Flown all over the world and had a blast getting to the airlines.
Do it the old fashion way and earn the endorsement. Rumours floating around that MOL's gang on the Emerald Isle are giving them out. On the qt by the sounds of it.
Again those who pay for a job are a joke. I and others laugh at you......
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We are not talking about paying for a job.
A SSTR is just an extension of your flighttraining.
Me, 30+ close to 3000 hours, most of them in turboprops. Not much companies interested only in TR holders.
Anyways, i'm not buying hours.
A SSTR is just an extension of your flighttraining.
Me, 30+ close to 3000 hours, most of them in turboprops. Not much companies interested only in TR holders.
Anyways, i'm not buying hours.
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Ok guy's what is the point to say that you will not pay for a TR or for hours. Correct me if I'm wrong but you are allready on a nice turboprop, and you are lucky. But now think about all those pilots who don't have the opportunities to get on ATR, Dash 8 or whatever. They stuck with 500Hrs TT, so if they can afford it, a TR is the best investment.
Once again I say that I have paid myself a TR and now I'm flying the 737 in a sunny country with a very good salary...and you know if even Spaceman is doing one it's mean that's good.
Concerning Hubair and Astraeus, it's a good combination, Astraeus do a very good training and Hubair has good relations with a lot of 737 companies : TNT,TUI,VEX,LUX and even with Ryanair, so what do you want more?
And you know some times during a TR training you meet some guy's like Pint'alfempty, who help you to make this experience incredibly cool and unforgetable
737OLI
Once again I say that I have paid myself a TR and now I'm flying the 737 in a sunny country with a very good salary...and you know if even Spaceman is doing one it's mean that's good.
Concerning Hubair and Astraeus, it's a good combination, Astraeus do a very good training and Hubair has good relations with a lot of 737 companies : TNT,TUI,VEX,LUX and even with Ryanair, so what do you want more?
And you know some times during a TR training you meet some guy's like Pint'alfempty, who help you to make this experience incredibly cool and unforgetable
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Hi
Hey chaps,
I finished my training with Cabair with minimal hours, and a new F'ATPL in my hand...
I did my type with AEU ( Astraeus ) last year on the B737. Training was first class.
I was online within 5 weeks of completing my base check with another airline. Now im well on my way to gaining a ATPL...
best of luck
Bail out
p.s S.M best of luck with the Thomson sim ride on Wednesday...see ya for the Las palmas trip over the weekend.
I finished my training with Cabair with minimal hours, and a new F'ATPL in my hand...
I did my type with AEU ( Astraeus ) last year on the B737. Training was first class.
I was online within 5 weeks of completing my base check with another airline. Now im well on my way to gaining a ATPL...
best of luck
Bail out
p.s S.M best of luck with the Thomson sim ride on Wednesday...see ya for the Las palmas trip over the weekend.
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Well, I do like to add that I am currently not flying at the moment, despite having significant turboprop hours.
Most companies are obviously not interested. I have applied to many turboprop operators that fly ATR's , Dash 8's etc. I was even told by a well known contracting agency that to go from Beech 1900 captain to Dash 8 f/o was too big a step!
Therefore my interest in a typerating, be it an ATR, 737 or whatsoever. I just want to be marketable.
Most companies are obviously not interested. I have applied to many turboprop operators that fly ATR's , Dash 8's etc. I was even told by a well known contracting agency that to go from Beech 1900 captain to Dash 8 f/o was too big a step!
Therefore my interest in a typerating, be it an ATR, 737 or whatsoever. I just want to be marketable.