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SOPS 14th Jan 2022 03:22

Out of interest …how many flights a day are operating from the Eastern States to Bali at the moment?

Jester64 14th Jan 2022 04:40


Originally Posted by nivsy (Post 11169754)
Yes absolutely... the world does not circulate around Bali....I mean who would even want to be there at the moment?

Why would someone not want to be in Bali at this current time?

chookcooker 14th Jan 2022 05:07


Originally Posted by Jester64 (Post 11169769)
Why would someone not want to be in Bali at this current time?

you might catch a cold

nivsy 14th Jan 2022 05:25


Originally Posted by Jester64 (Post 11169769)
Why would someone not want to be in Bali at this current time?

A mandatory 7x24 hours quarantine is set for fully vaccinated travellers.....I believe this is still valid?


Jester64 14th Jan 2022 05:33


Originally Posted by nivsy (Post 11169775)
A mandatory 7x24 hours quarantine is set for fully vaccinated travellers.....I believe this is still valid?

thanks you are correct. I thought they were quarantine free for fully vaccinated

nonsense 14th Jan 2022 15:13


Originally Posted by Icarus2001 (Post 11169682)
Yes but our media keep up their tactic of focussing on total case numbers. Funny they never mention each day how many people have fully recovered from their infection.

Is this what you're looking for?



https://covidlive.com.au/report/active-per-population



https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....fc1aa7d168.png

Icarus2001 14th Jan 2022 21:21

Not really, how many people have RECOVERED from the infection. Never see it reported.

Cunning_Stunt 14th Jan 2022 21:58

Yes they are. If you check the COVID live website , they are listed day by day. Just scroll down the page for each state.

Icarus2001 14th Jan 2022 22:22

I don’t think you understand my point.
Yes I can go and research it and find the numbers myself but I am saying that our ever helpful media only REPORT total cases, deaths, hospitalisations etc
They do not offer the number of recoveries.
Their focus is only on the doom and gloom and how bad it all is.
Their barely disguised glee when the new terrifying Omicron variant arrived. Unfortunately it did not play their game as it is less damaging than Delta. Hardly ever see that mentioned do you?

MickG0105 14th Jan 2022 23:35


Originally Posted by Icarus2001 (Post 11170175)
... but I am saying that our ever helpful media only REPORT total cases, deaths, hospitalisations etc
They do not offer the number of recoveries.
Their focus is only on the doom and gloom and how bad it all is.
​​​​​​...

When has it ever been any different for pretty much anything else? The news media don't cover ordinary events. The only time that the media covers survivors is where the act of survival was extraordinary ... Man fights off shark. Baby survives plane crash. That sort of thing.



Originally Posted by Icarus2001 (Post 11170175)
...
Their barely disguised glee when the new terrifying Omicron variant arrived. Unfortunately it did not play their game as it is less damaging than Delta. Hardly ever see that mentioned do you?

The reporting that Omicron is less severe than Delta is there if you look.

https://www.news.com.au/world/corona...c89dd0db654d9d
https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/healt...ests-c-5070312
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-...elta/100722338
https://thewest.com.au/news/coronavi...elta-c-5066060
https://www.economist.com/science-an...rlier-variants
https://www.news.com.au/world/corona...5b19da975f2f36
https://www.cnet.com/health/medical/...pitalizations/

cLeArIcE 14th Jan 2022 23:53


Originally Posted by Icarus2001 (Post 11170175)
I don’t think you understand my point.
Yes I can go and research it and find the numbers myself but I am saying that our ever helpful media only REPORT total cases, deaths, hospitalisations etc
They do not offer the number of recoveries.
Their focus is only on the doom and gloom and how bad it all is.
Their barely disguised glee when the new terrifying Omicron variant arrived. Unfortunately it did not play their game as it is less damaging than Delta. Hardly ever see that mentioned do you?

When we read an article about aviation, we all react with laughter at how little the media know about aviation, can't even get basic facts correct etc. If you apply the same rule to everything that you read, you won't be disappointed.
My biggest pet hate is opinion articles... Your a journalist, your a no body. Unless your opinion is about journalism, what would I care about your opinion on health, the economy Or aviation etc.

Transition Layer 15th Jan 2022 00:24


Originally Posted by SOPS (Post 11169755)
Out of interest …how many flights a day are operating from the Eastern States to Bali at the moment?

None that I’m aware of due to afore mentioned quarantine restrictions into Bali.
However Jetstar has re-commenced flights to Phuket from Sydney and Melbourne, arguably a much better place to visit anyway.

cbradio 15th Jan 2022 03:40


Originally Posted by Transition Layer (Post 11170204)
None that I’m aware of due to afore mentioned quarantine restrictions into Bali.
However Jetstar has re-commenced flights to Phuket from Sydney and Melbourne, arguably a much better place to visit anyway.

No international flights from anywhere into Bali. Its set up but no one flying direct there. Pretty much all quarantine done in Jakarta (a few in Manado and Surabaya.)

Angle of Attack 15th Jan 2022 10:46

2 years in we are still whinging, what a cluster, We might achieve quarantine free travel after 2 years lol, forget WA though they are long gong.

SHVC 19th Jan 2022 20:55

QF international could run into issues with their U.S flights. I didn’t even know the UK had a “avoid travel” to Australia. US have just upgraded their travel advice for their citizens to avoid travel to Australia. This is a long way from over I guess.

Consol 19th Jan 2022 22:41


Originally Posted by SHVC (Post 11172332)
QF international could run into issues with their U.S flights. I didn’t even know the UK had a “avoid travel” to Australia. US have just upgraded their travel advice for their citizens to avoid travel to Australia. This is a long way from over I guess.

Just about every country has a warning about every other country and travel insurance probably won't cover you against C19 as a result. There needs to be a significant step back in view of very reduced risks.

WingNut60 20th Jan 2022 02:52


Originally Posted by Consol (Post 11172364)
Just about every country has a warning about every other country and travel insurance probably won't cover you against C19 as a result. There needs to be a significant step back in view of very reduced risks.

Insurance companies take a step back from an opportunity to not pay out?
Good luck with that.

Xeptu 20th Jan 2022 07:31

Is it time to review where we are at. Here in South Australia we opened the border on the understanding that we are all vaxxed, we are all going to be infected, few of us will require hospitalisation and very few will die. What we didn't expect is that we will still require testing and isolation if you are infected or suspect you may be infected.
The consequence of that is that business is seriously nobbled worse than previous restrictions when borders were closed. Some schools not reopening, serious supply chain disruption at transport and production level. While I can't speak for the state, I am of the view that if we knew this would be the outcome we would never have supported opening the borders.
West Australians should know what to expect when they open their borders, I wouldn't judge if they didn't.

43Inches 20th Jan 2022 07:38

Nothing is new, the US and UK have been through the exact same thing, and still going through it. Shops and businesses in the high spread areas are closed and supply chains and maintenance all reduced due to sickness. I think the last data out had 1/3rd of businesses in affected areas still closed to avoid contracting covid/staff shortages. The only difference is our death toll is starting from a much lower base, and we're in a much better position fiscally. Like it or not, Australia is still much better off than much of the world, until now anyway.

Xeptu 20th Jan 2022 07:42

Almost half our staff are required to isolate for the next 10 days, half of them don't even know if they are actually infected. The other half of our staff can't function without them, we are about to close the doors, we'll take orders but can't provide a supply date. How long will that be acceptable.


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