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43Inches 20th Jan 2022 07:44

I agree the forced isolation is a dogs breakfast, but the other option is your workforce all gets sick at once. Maybe that's ok as it gets it over and done with, but how long does each one stay sick, and 'what ifs' the length of a piece of string. I'm hearing a lot of people taking sick leave from being worked off their feet due to shortages in various workplaces, which will only add to the problems.

The problems in construction are ridiculous, with numerous trades from different companies all working in confined spaces, it only takes one idiot to come to work sick and a schedule for several worksites and multiple companies is sent backwards a week or two.

Ex FSO GRIFFO 20th Jan 2022 10:45

New Info....
Announced at 1930 WST, CH 7, WA Premier;

Because of the effects of the 'Omicron' version of the virus, - As at 5th Feb., the 'hard borders' will remain but with more focus on compassionate grounds.

See the WA Gov site for more details.
T'ain't borders 'open' as expected...as yet......
That is all...for now.

p.s. I gotta add, when asked by a 'journo' if WA's Health System situation has anything to do with this decision, Mr Premier said something like, no, our WA Health System
is healthy and strong...or words to that effect.

Has anybody else noticed a resemblance to the character 'Frank Burns' from 'M*A*S*H*....when these claims are made....??
Maybe its just moi.......

dr dre 20th Jan 2022 11:12


Originally Posted by Ex FSO GRIFFO (Post 11172568)
Because of the effects of the 'Omicron' version of the virus, - As at 5th Feb., the 'hard borders' will remain but with more focus on compassionate grounds.

But if you get to come in you have to isolate, as do all others in that household. What a joke. There's no way they can police that.

Actually it's probably just a way to keep Covid slowly spreading out into the community so eventually he can reopen but not have to have it seem as if a fixed decision of his was the cause, ie passing the buck.

He can't even claim WA is better than anywhere else because of the mask mandates and event restrictions.

aussieflyboy 20th Jan 2022 11:29

I look forward to when McClown has to fly commercially somewhere, I imagine a glass of red wine will accidentally be spilled on him 😝

airdualbleedfault 20th Jan 2022 12:40


. Has anybody else noticed a resemblance to the character 'Frank Burns' from 'M*A*S*H*....when these claims are made....??
Maybe its just moi.......
Nope, it's not just you

SOPS 20th Jan 2022 12:50


Originally Posted by dr dre (Post 11167831)
Well it's coming to WA. Comments from the Chief Health Officer over the weekend:



He doesn't consider high case numbers in the east a reason for delaying reopening.

Similar comments from McGowan:



Patients being prepared for at home treatment rather than in hospital treatment.

From the Government site:



It's coming. 25 days, 11 hours and 28 minutes until the "Hermit Kingdom" is over. Best mentally prepare for it now.

Really? Things seemed to have changed.

Jester64 20th Jan 2022 13:05


Originally Posted by SOPS (Post 11172630)
Really? Things seemed to have changed.

Apparently only of this morning, if we are to believe anything McGowan says. What a sad night for our federation.

SOPS 20th Jan 2022 13:22


Originally Posted by Jester64 (Post 11172637)
Apparently only of this morning, if we are to believe anything McGowan says. What a sad night for our federation.

According to late night media reports here.. things changed about 4pm yesterday when the latest numbers of deaths came out from the Eastern States. An a Emergency Meeting was called.. and plans started to change.

Jester64 20th Jan 2022 13:32


Originally Posted by SOPS (Post 11172644)
According to late night media reports here.. things changed about 4pm yesterday when the latest numbers of deaths came out from the Eastern States. An a Emergency Meeting was called.. and plans started to change.

Exactly why the covid death definition needs to be redefined

SOPS 20th Jan 2022 13:42


Originally Posted by dr dre (Post 11172581)
But if you get to come in you have to isolate, as do all others in that household. What a joke. There's no way they can police that.

Actually it's probably just a way to keep Covid slowly spreading out into the community so eventually he can reopen but not have to have it seem as if a fixed decision of his was the cause, ie passing the buck.

He can't even claim WA is better than anywhere else because of the mask mandates and event restrictions.

I hate to tell you this … they can police that. My next door neighbour’s son and family got permission to come and see her on compassionate grounds ( my neighbour is 90) from Queensland. They arrived a week ago. They have been allowed to quarantine with my neighbour, with her, in her home. The Police arrive at random times, twice a day, every day, to check they are all home. So yes, they can police it.

Ladloy 20th Jan 2022 19:48


Originally Posted by Jester64 (Post 11172646)
Exactly why the covid death definition needs to be redefined

Yeah move those goalposts

Lead Balloon 20th Jan 2022 19:53

They did it with the definition of 'close contact'...

dr dre 20th Jan 2022 20:47


Originally Posted by SOPS (Post 11172651)
I hate to tell you this … they can police that. My next door neighbour’s son and family got permission to come and see her on compassionate grounds ( my neighbour is 90) from Queensland. They arrived a week ago. They have been allowed to quarantine with my neighbour, with her, in her home. The Police arrive at random times, twice a day, every day, to check they are all home. So yes, they can police it.

He indicated more will be coming in under compassionate exemptions. More police needed to check on them. When in isolation those in the same household will have to isolate too. Like that's going to happen. Increased arrivals = increased chances of spread. The hotel quarantine system was leaky enough.

So it seems like he wants more chances of community breakouts whilst also appearing to be tough, so he doesn't have to take responsibility for allowing large numbers of cases in. He doesn't want to have put his name to a date to avoid any backlash, so just let them seep in.

If Airlines had any guts they'd announce a snap end to all flights into WA, so none of those compassionate arrivals can actually get in anyway. Just keep one per day for essential freight only, no passengers.
They could also announce a grounding of FIFO flights, using the excuse of crews being distracted. Now THAT would force a change in minutes.

If Morrison had any guts (he doesn't) he'd just stop all those extra booster shots coming into the state, saying if WA won't follow the national plan they can fund their own vaccines. But when you have a failed marketing manager as PM who only knows spin you never get substance or action.

Potsie Weber 20th Jan 2022 21:26


Originally Posted by SOPS (Post 11172651)
I hate to tell you this … they can police that. My next door neighbour’s son and family got permission to come and see her on compassionate grounds ( my neighbour is 90) from Queensland. They arrived a week ago. They have been allowed to quarantine with my neighbour, with her, in her home. The Police arrive at random times, twice a day, every day, to check they are all home. So yes, they can police it.

Cracking waste of police resources, grilling every person arriving into WA and going house to house checking on isolations. Meanwhile, assaults are up 14% on 5yr average and domestic violence up 19%.

https://www.police.wa.gov.au/crime/crimestatistics#/



Ladloy 20th Jan 2022 22:30


Originally Posted by Lead Balloon (Post 11172839)
They did it with the definition of 'close contact'...

Sure did, in line with the US and UK, backed by big business and not by the scientific community. The states agreed to the new definition too, so it's not an argument of bipartisanship. Why we would follow suit with those countries is beyond me.

Airports are now empty, supermarket shelves are empty, casual workers throughout the country are on LWOP and now we have the trucking industry and Scomo asking for child forkies. What a timeline.

itsnotthatbloodyhard 20th Jan 2022 22:32


If Airlines had any guts they'd announce a snap end to all flights into WA, so none of those compassionate arrivals can actually get in anyway. Just keep one per day for essential freight only, no passengers.
Why even have the one freight flight per day? If McGowan and his supporters want to remain cut off from the rest of Australia (while constantly sneering at what’s happening in other states), then they can remain cut off. Properly.

PoppaJo 20th Jan 2022 23:44


Originally Posted by dr dre (Post 11172859)

If Airlines had any guts they'd announce a snap end to all flights into WA, so none of those compassionate arrivals can actually get in anyway. Just keep one per day for essential freight only, no passengers.

.

They pretty much already have. Jetstar has pulled out for the moment, probably won’t return for a few months. VA and QF only have one flight a day over to the East Coast.

vne165 21st Jan 2022 00:08


Originally Posted by dr dre (Post 11172859)

So it seems like he wants more chances of community breakouts whilst also appearing to be tough, so he doesn't have to take responsibility for allowing large numbers of cases in. He doesn't want to have put his name to a date to avoid any backlash, so just let them seep in.

Nailed it Dre.
What a spineless twerp he is.

tossbag 21st Jan 2022 00:55

Does anybody really care? Who's going to WA anytime soon? I think it is time for people to move on from WA and whatever it is they want to do. So long as the FEDS are still getting the taxes they are owed out of the joint, all good.

ExtraShot 21st Jan 2022 01:21


Originally Posted by vne165 (Post 11172927)
Nailed it Dre.
What a spineless twerp he is.

Yep. Dre is on the money. It’s exactly what he’s doing.

In the mean time, what a stunning waste of police resources to keep tabs on all those evil G2G holders, while crime everywhere else here runs rampant.

And still no published plan to fix the hospital mess. Two years of absolute Covid free luxury to get us ready and he completely wasted it. What an utter disgrace.


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