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goodonyamate 21st Jan 2022 20:11


Originally Posted by Xeptu (Post 11173331)
We are ALL over it, regardless of where you come from. Just don't go believing that with the borders open things will get better and you'll be able to travel, because that's not what's going to happen. Ask any business in SA, the border has only been open 8 weeks and it's an economic catastrophe already.

is that because of the virus or the ridiculous isolation rules. What a pathetic nation Australia is, shameful.

SHVC 21st Jan 2022 20:17

Exactly, Australia is pathetic! Reason why S.A business and east coast business are struggling is because the politicians are so hell bent on case numbers. It has even been said here that ppl have had to take 7-14 days off work what normally would be 1-2 days off. People having to isolate because of the close contact rubbish for over 7 days is killing progress. As I’ve said earlier the real factual numbers need to be worked out- going to hospital with a broken leg and testing positive whilst there is a COVID hospital number when it should really be they went to hospital because of the broken leg, that does not make news I guess.

ManillaChillaDilla 21st Jan 2022 20:20

The arrogance of Mcgowan is simply unbelievable.

No border closure can overcome nature. Thats what we are dealing with at the end of the day.

As Keg says, prolonging the inevetable, at the expence of an entire state and perhaps the country.

Moronic.

MCD


Xeptu 21st Jan 2022 20:23


Originally Posted by goodonyamate (Post 11173338)
is that because of the virus or the ridiculous isolation rules. What a pathetic nation Australia is, shameful.

Well that's debateable, The issues for us is supply and staff. We can't get what we need and half our own staff are in isolation, the other half can't function without them. We have made the decision we will do the Australia Day thing, then suspend all operations for a month. Hopefully beyond that we will have sufficient supply and staff for a reboot. It's all we can do, we are unable to operate as things are.

Chad Gates 21st Jan 2022 21:22

I find this very interesting. Yesterday the front page of the West Australian called MM an abject failure. Today it calls him a liar. This newspaper (if you can even call it that, but let’s be honest, it’s the only newspaper West Australians read) used to gush over him only 2 days ago.

BuzzBox 21st Jan 2022 21:36


Originally Posted by Chad Gates (Post 11173359)
…let’s be honest, it’s the only newspaper West Australians read)….

What utter crap.

Chad Gates 21st Jan 2022 21:41

Sorry buzz, can you tell me where I can find another WA newspaper? And I don’t mean online.

BuzzBox 21st Jan 2022 22:10

Don't change the goal posts Chad. That's not what you said the first time.

Chad Gates 21st Jan 2022 22:25

Yes it is buzz. You’re trying to change the goalposts. I always said newspaper, and that’s what I meant. Anyway the point is, the only newspaper you can buy in WA has turned on Mark.

Icarus2001 21st Jan 2022 22:30


Anyway the point is, the only newspaper you can buy in WA has turned on Mark.
See now you are just making yourself look silly.
The Australian newspaper is readily available in WA. As are others to a lesser degree.

Chad Gates 21st Jan 2022 22:40

Yep true. The Australian however is not a West Australian newspaper.

I would suspect most would understand my point. Arguing about whether you can buy the SMH in Perth is not really what I’m getting at.

Lead Balloon 21st Jan 2022 23:37

Chad said "another WA newspaper", not "another newspaper in WA". Chad is correct.

dr dre 21st Jan 2022 23:51


Originally Posted by Chad Gates (Post 11173359)
I find this very interesting. Yesterday the front page of the West Australian called MM an abject failure. Today it calls him a liar. This newspaper (if you can even call it that, but let’s be honest, it’s the only newspaper West Australians read) used to gush over him only 2 days ago.

Yep. They've torn into him:

Mark McGowan’s border backflip: The seven claims the Premier made that don’t stack up


Also to note the two side pieces on the front page. Snap poll saying 70% of WA believes he should have had the health system ready by Feb 5. And mystery cases picked up in random screening. It's already spreading.

BuzzBox 22nd Jan 2022 00:08


Originally Posted by Chad Gates (Post 11173377)
Yes it is buzz. You’re trying to change the goalposts. I always said newspaper, and that’s what I meant. Anyway the point is, the only newspaper you can buy in WA has turned on Mark.

Err, no. You said "it’s the only newspaper West Australians read". The West Australian might be the only daily WA newspaper, but it is NOT the only newspaper West Australians read, as you originally claimed. 'National' newspapers such as The Australian and the Australian Financial Review are widely available and are widely read. The Australian has always been extremely critical of McGowan, so it's not like West Australians have never been exposed to anti-McGowan views before now.

BuzzBox 22nd Jan 2022 00:09


Originally Posted by Lead Balloon (Post 11173407)
Chad said "another WA newspaper", not "another newspaper in WA". Chad is correct.

Except that's not what he said the first time.

Jester64 22nd Jan 2022 00:14


Originally Posted by Xeptu (Post 11173331)
We are ALL over it, regardless of where you come from. Just don't go believing that with the borders open things will get better and you'll be able to travel, because that's not what's going to happen. Ask any business in SA, the border has only been open 8 weeks and it's an economic catastrophe already.

With borders open, things get worse before they get better. With borders closed, things stay the same. You have make your move at some point.

BuzzBox 22nd Jan 2022 00:15


Originally Posted by dr dre (Post 11173410)
Also to note the two side pieces on the front page. Snap poll saying 70% of WA believes he should have had the health system ready by Feb 5.

That result is hardly surprising, given the government had already announced it would reopen on 5 Feb. The West asked a question to get the result it wanted. Channel 7 yesterday conducted another poll that asked the question: "Do you agree with McGowan's decision", or something similar. Some 73% of respondents said YES.

Here's another view: ‘Who wants to get sick?’: Why the west will mostly back Mark McGowan

Jester64 22nd Jan 2022 00:20


Originally Posted by BuzzBox (Post 11173418)
That result is hardly surprising, given the government had already announced it would reopen on 5 Feb. The West asked a question to get the result it wanted. Channel 7 yesterday conducted another poll which asked the question: "Do you agree with McGowan's decision", or something similar. Some 73% of respondents said YES.

That’s because three-quarters of the population voted for him and place their trust in him to make the best decisions for WA. A day before the announcement, if the question read “should we be opening and do you want to open on 5th FEB, 73% would have said yes. What I’m trying to say is that he has most of WA wrapped around is finger, whatever he says is the right thing to do, they believe it and don’t question it.

SHVC 22nd Jan 2022 00:37

It was first reported this would go against Sco Mo and Co for the fed election as they couldn’t get into WA for the campaign and MM could do each way Albanese work for him. It could also have the opposite effect on first glance. I e never looked forward to an election as much as this one, except the last one.

dr dre 22nd Jan 2022 01:26


Originally Posted by BuzzBox (Post 11173414)
Err, no. You said "it’s the only newspaper West Australians read". The West Australian might be the only daily WA newspaper, but it is NOT the only newspaper West Australians read, as you originally claimed. 'National' newspapers such as The Australian and the Australian Financial Review are widely available and are widely read. The Australian has always been extremely critical of McGowan, so it's not like West Australians have never been exposed to anti-McGowan views before now.

The AFR and Australian have a circulation in WA of about 14,000 and 9,000. The West Australian 130,000. It's also the paper that sits in cafes, doctor's offices etc that people have a quick browse of for a few minutes, and for the last two days for the first time they've been getting very anti-McGowan headlines. Have a look at the West's website as well and you'll see articles mostly disagreeing with this decision. As well as their subsidiary PerthNow website which similarly has about 10x the online viewership in WA than the AFR or Oz.


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