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Originally Posted by Paragraph377
(Post 11093823)
Oh please. Or until they change the target to 91% or the current measures don’t work for the new variants, or all preschoolers, cats and dogs need to now be vaccinated, so let’s lock it all down again blah blah blah. These wankers are making it up on the run. Governments aren’t capable of organising a church picnic let alone protecting its people through a real emergency. Anyone who accepts the BS coming from the Governments mouths is living in cloud cuckoo land.
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Can I ask you what your expectation is of how life will be if we do that. |
Originally Posted by 43Inches
(Post 11093826)
The recent cancellation of bus services because of an outbreak in the depot is a good reminder that things wont be normal with high covid in the community. And businesses will be making equally less income because half the population would be too scared to leave home, basically what is happening overseas. |
Originally Posted by Xeptu
(Post 11093825)
Clearly you don't think there should be any lockdowns at all, which essentially means "let it rip" Can I ask you what your expectation is of how life will be if we do that.
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Here's some interesting stats,
From the 15th to the 28th July 2019 Victoria registered 204 (54 businesses) personal insolvencies including business owners. From 12th of July to 25th July 2021 only 41 (11 businesses) insolvencies were recorded. Since the 13th of July 2020 the insolvency figure has not risen above 100 per fortnight. https://www.afsa.gov.au/about-us/sta...ncy-statistics Why the figure has dropped so much, no idea, it's way against what even I was thinking. |
Originally Posted by 43Inches
(Post 11093833)
Here's some interesting stats,
From the 15th to the 28th July 2019 Victoria registered 204 (54 businesses) personal insolvencies including business owners. From 12th of July to 25th July 2021 only 41 (11 businesses) insolvencies were recorded. Since the 13th of July 2020 the insolvency figure has not risen above 100 per fortnight. https://www.afsa.gov.au/about-us/sta...ncy-statistics Why the figure has dropped so much, no idea, it's way against what even I was thinking. |
Originally Posted by Paragraph377
(Post 11093832)
So you think locking down the entire ACT with a financial impact of hundreds of millions of dollars, probably more, because 1 person has COVID, is a great idea for a virus that infects around 1% of the population with deaths mainly occurring in the over 80 years of age bracket?Seriously, you people have lost the plot. This is insanity.
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Originally Posted by Xeptu
(Post 11093836)
It's not about what I think and you are clearly a bit behind the current state of the pandemic. you haven't answered the question.
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Trusting Government statistics is like putting trust in a rapist at a school carnival that he won’t offend. House prices are up, inflation is creeping up, unemployment is down. A survey of businesses has found 20% of business is struggling to find enough workforce etc etc. If you are a Pilot, well these are the hard times the old pilots have talked about. Part of the job, boom bust etc. Now there were some extra bankruptcy protections added in 2020, but the rate should have been much higher by now with the 6 month period ended for the first round. |
Originally Posted by Paragraph377
(Post 11093838)
And I’m not going to answer the question as it will only see me labelled as a conspiracy theorist and create space for ongoing attacks. I will leave it to you serving pilots/epidemiologists (jack of all trades) to continue with your belief that these shutdowns are the key to future happy days. 👍
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Originally Posted by Ladloy
(Post 11093820)
Until our double dose vaccination rates are above 80% I strongly disagree.
Friday nights when they get on the beers. Because they are so faceless who's to say that I'm wrong. |
Originally Posted by 43Inches
(Post 11093839)
If you are a Pilot, well these are the hard times the old pilots have talked about. Part of the job, boom bust etc.
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Originally Posted by Blackout
(Post 11093843)
What Pandemic? The Economical Pandemic?
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You do realise they threw darts at a board to come up with that number. It's what public health do on Friday nights when they get on the beers. Because they are so faceless who's to say that I'm wrong. |
Originally Posted by Xeptu
(Post 11093846)
If we're doing it wrong then by all means call it out. But you must provide a solution on which is the right way, Then we will peer review that.
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The only real way out, is for everyone to be on the same page and call it out. There needs to be accountability, in which, nobody seems to be taking!!!!!! |
Originally Posted by 43Inches
(Post 11093839)
Just an idiotic statement, everything in the economy agrees with the figures. As I've said all along there is no evidence of extra bankruptcies, suicides etc. You need to get your head checked if you are starting to think the world is against you, that is known as Paranoia, and is a mental illness.
House prices are up, inflation is creeping up, unemployment is down. A survey of businesses has found 20% of business is struggling to find enough workforce etc etc. If you are a Pilot, well these are the hard times the old pilots have talked about. Part of the job, boom bust etc. Now there were some extra bankruptcy protections added in 2020, but the rate should have been much higher by now with the 6 month period ended for the first round. |
You are serious, right? So all those city cafe’s are doing fine? So the tourism industry is doing wonderful and not bleeding to death? Those thousands of taxi’s in the lockdown cities are doing a roaring trade? Mate, take a look at every sector and not just one or two areas. And you think that rising inflation is a good thing? Again, try studying finance. And finally, good old house prices being pushed up by people panicking about getting a home at any cost. Yep, no bubble or risk there. The Australian house bubble has been tipped to burst since the Howard years, guess what, its still bubbling, and the reasoning is sound. Australia can afford it. The reality is that Joe Older Guy who has owned property in the inner city for 50 years can just sell up his house and buy an apartment or bigger house in the burbs and still have cash left. He then gives his kids a leg up into the housing industry and they buy a house in the burbs or city, keeping the prices up. Until that cash runs out Aussie homes will stay high. A large proportion of home owners own their house outright. Again don't base your beliefs on just what is your situation. Good mate is a 50+ year real-estate agent in the suburbs, he sees no end to the prices steadily rising, unless of course something completely left field happens, way worse than covid. BTW a year ago both of us though house prices would crash due to Covid, we were very wrong. |
Originally Posted by Paragraph377
(Post 11093852)
You are serious, right? So all those city cafe’s are doing fine? So the tourism industry is doing wonderful and not bleeding to death? Those thousands of taxi’s in the lockdown cities are doing a roaring trade? Mate, take a look at every sector and not just one or two areas. And you think that rising inflation is a good thing? Again, try studying finance. And finally, good old house prices being pushed up by people panicking about getting a home at any cost. Yep, no bubble or risk there.
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