Originally Posted by Agent_86
(Post 11108479)
McGowan now saying WA will remain 'closed' to the East Coast until April 2022 :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Agent_86
(Post 11108479)
McGowan now saying WA will remain 'closed' to the East Coast until April 2022 :rolleyes:
Last year in early October budget documents assumed WA would remain closed to the rest of the country until April-Jun 2022. They actually opened up mid November. |
Latest news by US Secretary of Airlines Association are that they might be accepting vaccinated tourists in November.
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Originally Posted by WingNut60
(Post 11108430)
Is there any real-world example to show that a 70, 80 or 90 percent vaccination rate will actually curtail infection rates?
Is there any real-world example that clearly shows that vaccination rates, on their own, are having any recognisable effect on infection rates? And before anyone reaches for the UK as a key example, do not compare infection rates under restrictions at lower vax % with infection rates without restrictions at higher vax % What will catch out the dumb buggers resisting the vax is that COVID can run asymptomatic or I-couldn't-give-a-rats mild-symptomatic through the responsible types and then polish off the nutters and self-important. Good frikkin riddance. |
If the medical system breaks down, who gets the ICU bed? The vaccinated or unvaccinated? Will a medical triage system be influenced by politicians? Leaving the unvaccinated who chose in all likelihood, a preventable hospitalisation, to stomp up and down about their right to intensive care.
I get the feeling within the next six months, it could all become very ugly and even more divisive than closed State borders, if the medical system bursts at the seams. |
Supposedly the Vaccinated will be protected enough to not be in ICU. We will see.
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Supposedly the Vaccinated will be protected enough to not be in ICU. We will see. You can still end up in ICU for a number of other reasons. That has always been the issue that covid patients chew up hospital resources that are needed for other things. That's why elective surgeries have been delayed to free up beds and staff. A big Friday night on a long weekend can swamp a cities ICU capability, add 100 covid patients and then what. |
Originally Posted by 43Inches
(Post 11108986)
You can still end up in ICU for a number of other reasons. That has always been the issue that covid patients chew up hospital resources that are needed for other things.
Saying they’ve had 18 months to prepare doesn’t mean the healthcare systems are actually in a position to cope, they’ve spent the time firefighting the other issues that are endemic in our underfunded, under resourced and understaffed hospitals. |
Saying they’ve had 18 months to prepare doesn’t mean the healthcare systems are actually in a position to cope, they’ve spent the time firefighting the other issues that are endemic in our underfunded, under resourced and understaffed hospitals. |
Originally Posted by dr dre
(Post 11108485)
Tthere is still a good chance of a reopening by Christmas
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Originally Posted by Gnadenburg
(Post 11108968)
If the medical system breaks down, who gets the ICU bed?.
**edit** think the numbers have stabilised enough in NSW that it wont get to that point so its hopefully a moot conversation |
Originally Posted by coaldemon
(Post 11108980)
Supposedly the Vaccinated will be protected enough to not be in ICU. We will see.
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Originally Posted by SHVC
(Post 11109027)
Fully vaxed patients in ICU has remained steady in NSW for sometime, as of today only 17% fully vax in ICU.
I'd be really interested in knowing if any of those 36 have significant co-morbidities. The KRviatrix and I both had our 2nd shots last week. Didn't bother me in the slightest, but it sat her on her asre for 2 days, in bed with the chills, then feverish, then the chills again and that made me wonder, if we were to both get Covid, without being vaccinated, would I be one of those to shrug it off and she'd wind up in ICU? I dunno? |
The Israeli study on Pfizer was pretty telling that in the two weeks after the first jab you were not much better off than those with none, but by day 24, which was double jab and 10 days you virtually had no chance of severe symptoms. So it's pretty critical to think of "fully vaccinated" as double dose plus 2 weeks.
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Either one or two doses, the data is there. 1 dose is better than no dose.
WA not allowing NSW in at all for Xmas QLD if I read it correctly are allowing essential workers into QLD. |
Originally Posted by SHVC
(Post 11109043)
Either one or two doses, the data is there. 1 dose is better than no dose.
WA not allowing NSW in at all for Xmas QLD if I read it correctly are allowing essential workers into QLD. |
Originally Posted by SHVC
(Post 11109027)
Fully vaxed patients in ICU has remained steady in NSW for sometime, as of today only 17% fully vax in ICU.
Of the 1,692 people hospitalised as a result of COVID-19 in the current outbreak, 248 (15%) people were in ICU of which 211 (85.1%) were unvaccinated or whose vaccination status is unknown, and 35 (14.1%) were partially vaccinated or had a single dose within 14 days. There were 2 (0.8%) fully vaccinated cases admitted to ICU. https://www.health.nsw.gov.au/Infect...t-20210904.pdf |
Got my coercion letter from the corrupt Govt yesterday begging me to take the poison up the ass, I feel wanted-)
The fear continues for so many, amongst these pages, love it! -) |
Got my coercion letter from the corrupt Govt yesterday begging me to take the poison up the ass, I feel wanted-) The fear continues for so many, amongst these pages, love it! -) I just got it in the shoulder.... |
Originally Posted by machtuk
(Post 11109239)
Got my coercion letter from the corrupt Govt yesterday begging me to take the poison up the ass, I feel wanted-)
The fear continues for so many, amongst these pages, love it! -) So many brave ‘Freedom Fighters’ scared of a jab in the arm. It’s only a little prick. I’m pretty sure you’ve seen one of those. |
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