Keep taking away my freedom and see..
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Originally Posted by Turnleft080
(Post 11081975)
How mad? According to public health advice, it's ok to have heart disease, it's ok to have cancer, it's ok to have diabetes 2, it's ok to have liver or kidney disease
but don't you ever ever think about catching Covid. You are not to die of covid, not on my watch. Oh! you have a knee replacement, I'm sorry, your just have to endure your knee pain. Your pain is the countries gain. Make that 3 fold, mental financial and surmountable stress. Thats the science. Trust the public health advise. |
False equivalence… Evidence of immunity debt growing around the world indicates the hospitals are going to fill up anyhow because of our masking and lockdowns
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Just watching that idiot KS on 9s morning show dear mongering everyone. He was saying how bad delta is and comparing to the UK saying they had 46,000 new cases and 96 deaths saying the UK are plummeting back to a lockdown out of those I couldn’t find any info on how many of those deaths were vaccinated. But Seriously WTF his statements make it clear that ppl want zero, we are all f&$ked royally.
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Originally Posted by mattyj
(Post 11082147)
False equivalence… Evidence of immunity debt growing around the world indicates the hospitals are going to fill up anyhow because of our masking and lockdowns
While there were sporadic cases previously, the increase of RSV cases in New Zealand in 2021 was reported by the national viral laboratory network shortly after re-opening the borders with Australia in late-April. ... “The exponential increase is very sharp. The absence of RSV last winter meant there is a young cohort of children from last year, plus a new cohort this year, who have not been exposed to the seasonal virus,” says Dr Huang. ... Despite the sharp increase, rates of RSV infection are still less than pre-COVID levels. The rate of hospitalisations due to Severe Acute Respiratory Infection (SARI) has continued to decrease after several weeks of increasing rates. The rate is now again below the seasonal baseline threshold and the historical average rate for this time of year. Respiratory Syncytial virus (RSV) was the virus most commonly detected through SARI surveillance in the past week (with high RSV test positivity, ~45%), and these hospital admissions in the Auckland region are predominantly in children under 5 years old. |
It doesnt matter what industry you are in.
If you are trying to run a business big or small, this current situation is beyond impossible. The incompetance loop is running overtime and self perpetuating. These idiots have destroyed our country. MCD. |
Originally Posted by AerialPerspective
(Post 11082068)
I tend to think the times have bred a generation that reacts more emotionally to being unfriended on FB than a WWII or WWI soldier would have reacted to losing a leg.
Funny enough if you read the history of it all there were similar complaints the states were acting too independently and the Hughes federal government at the time wasn't strong enough in enforcing a consistent approach across the commonwealth. |
Originally Posted by dr dre
(Post 11082234)
Do you realise it was the WW1 generation that wore masks, closed borders, instituted quarantine, instituted lockdowns, closed venues and schools, cancelled events over the 1918 H1N1 pandemic? Was that generation similarly weak?
Funny enough if you read the history of it all there were similar complaints the states were acting too independently and the Hughes federal government at the time wasn't strong enough in enforcing a consistent approach across the commonwealth. |
Originally Posted by ManillaChillaDilla
(Post 11082229)
It doesnt matter what industry you are in.
If you are trying to run a business big or small, this current situation is beyond impossible. The incompetance loop is running overtime and self perpetuating. These idiots have destroyed our country. MCD. Employment is at 4.9% which is the lowest it’s been in a decade. Participation rate is stable. GDP is up 1.8% for the first quarter of 2021 |
That’s quantitative easing and injecting that printed cash into the economy
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So, "rates of RSV infection are still less than pre-COVID levels", the hospitalisation "rate is now again below the seasonal baseline threshold and the historical average rate for this time of year" and "rate of hospitalisations due to Severe Acute Respiratory Infection (SARI) has continued to decrease". |
Originally Posted by mattyj
(Post 11082259)
yet the DHBs are in the media complaining about being overrun and there was 500 cases in children’s hospitals
And of course, yes, let's turn to the media for our facts, what would the bodies that actually capture, analyse and report the data know? As the ESR notes there was most assuredly a very significant spike in RSV cases but the case count has subsequently declined such that they are now back to historical baselines. It's called regression to the mean. |
Originally Posted by Tucknroll
(Post 11082240)
The economy is 1.1% larger than it was pre-covid
Employment is at 4.9% which is the lowest it’s been in a decade. Participation rate is stable. GDP is up 1.8% for the first quarter of 2021 Regarding the 2nd point I had to take early retirement in March 2020 so not on the stats and my wife is a casual and her hours are only 70% of pre covid and zero during a lockdown bu again not on your stats. |
Many given up looking for work I’d suspect and many just hanging in to worried to quit .
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Originally Posted by Tucknroll
(Post 11082240)
The economy is 1.1% larger than it was pre-covid
Employment is at 4.9% which is the lowest it’s been in a decade. Participation rate is stable. GDP is up 1.8% for the first quarter of 2021 |
Sydney airport might want to rethink the buyout offer.....the numbers in NSW arnt looking good
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It’s official. The situation is proper f*%#ed in Australia right now.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f17ad9730.jpeg |
Well going of the last few days in Sydney Gladamir will keep it locked down till December at least. Community transmission still on the up, but that should be going down lockdown for almost 4 weeks.
United recently announcing they’re withdrawing passenger and Cargo services until October only a matter of time before others follow suit |
Waiting this outbreak out until December for herd immunity or as close as possible will destroy the state.
Let’s wait until next week to see if things start to drop. It did seem near impossible in Melbourne however they did get there eventually. |
Originally Posted by Tucknroll
(Post 11082240)
The economy is 1.1% larger than it was pre-covid
Employment is at 4.9% which is the lowest it’s been in a decade. Participation rate is stable. GDP is up 1.8% for the first quarter of 2021 I’ve had one AZ and have the second next week. I’m not a COVID denier, and neither do I believe it’s a 5G conspiracy. Like most on here, I’ve spent my entire career in an environment of regulatory compliance, so if I’m told to stay indoors or wear a mask I’m hardwired to comply. But for those of you sitting there (many of you in government jobs) telling yourself Australia has done an awesome job, you are completely deluded. This country’s management of this virus has been a ****show of epic proportions. Geography spared us from mass infection and jobkeeper blunted some of the economic pain. Closing international borders was a good decision, but executed by both feds and state government like 3 year olds finger painting with their own poo. National cabinet has produced zero collaboration or consensus and merely legitimised state premiers who have repeatedly proved to be low talent administrators driven purely by reelection. In Qld the bag lady, sorry CMO, has actually sabotaged the vaccine rollout she supposedly supports. The vaccine rollout (sorry feds, this one is all you) was a day late and a dollar short, and world class in terms of lethargy in delivery and confused messaging. We now find ourselves a laughing stock, or we would do if the media reported any news outside of Australia or NZ, and confined to a miserable and dystopian world of often politically driven lockdowns and decimated consumer confidence, whilst the vaccine rollout continues at a rate even Burkina Faso would be ashamed of. Yet we sit at home watching the ABC news and tutting about decisions made in the US or UK in a very different environment. Take a bow Australia |
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